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Posted by sp00ky on 05-14-2002 10:25 PM:

this is 3 cd, not 4 as stated on the site - just as a note.

;spoo

Posted by napalmfuzz on 05-14-2002 10:44 PM:

this is getting rediculous... svcd has nothing to do with the quality of a telesync.. the ctp svcd are as good quality as the ctp vcd.. its fine to want to be known for something different in the scene.. but what the fuck.. do we really need an svcd telesync of unfaithful?

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Posted by rodney on 05-14-2002 10:53 PM:

i like the svcd more and i am sure other people do too just like how it is stated in one of the previous ctp nfo's i read.

Posted by outatime on 05-14-2002 11:12 PM:

svcd info

svcds are hypotheticaly speaking, "higher quality" because its MPEG2 as aposed to 1, and it therefore uses more processing power from the player.

atm

Posted by Outrage_Display on 05-14-2002 11:25 PM:

There is a bit of difference b/t VCD and SVCD. NO, the SVCD does not change the qulaity of the TS, but it does enhance the quality of this pic... if that makes sense. VCDs are encoded at 352X240. SVCDs are encoded at 480X480. If played on a computer, you cannot tell much of a difference, but if they were played on a DVD player on a tv bigger than your monitor, there is a significant difference. The extra 128X240 make the picture have to strech less to fit your TV.

So in a short statemnet, SVCD is better than VCD in quality on TVs bigger than your monitor.

If you do not fell like wastin a couple of pennies on a cd, dl the entire movie and load up TMPGEnc and re-encode the damn move to VCD and quit ur bitchin!

On the movie, the quality is very high up and sound is ok.

Posted by napalmfuzz on 05-14-2002 11:28 PM:

i know what you are saying... but if ctp were relying on it looking better on standalones i think they would work on their releases being compliant on more than a handful of peoples standalones

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Posted by littledot on 05-14-2002 11:42 PM:

Since they have switched to svcd all their shit plays in sync. Thank God!!!

Posted by kwantum on 05-14-2002 11:53 PM:

nobody cares about using an extra cd, it's the downloading the extra 800mb that irritates a lot of people.
spiderman looked good though, worth it.

Posted by v4f-coolk on 05-14-2002 11:58 PM:

Dumb Asses

You people are so dumb. Making a TS encoded with SVCD does change the quality!!! It makes the bitrate much higher and the screen resolution bigger. The higher the bitrate the better the quality. A higher bitrate also makes the action scenes in any movie much less blocky. Just like Spiderman has no blocky action scenes.... Fuckers!

Posted by brr8760 on 05-15-2002 12:20 AM:

As much as I prefer 2 cd releases-- for various reasons-- I TOTALLY respect Centropy's commitment to quality. The 2 CD re-encode of Spiderman made the difference clear. Bottom line: the picture quality is better on svcd.

If someone can accomplish the same thing on 2 CD's--> bon appetite.

Posted by vertigo235 on 05-15-2002 12:21 AM:

Well I like the SVCD's, if you dont like it then go make your own ! I'll be getting this movie.

Posted by ShifTeR on 05-15-2002 12:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by brr8760
The 2 CD re-encode of Spiderman made the difference clear. Bottom line: the picture quality is better on svcd.

well obviously ... any recode is going to be worse quality than the original. we'll never know how an original vcd would have compared to the svcd, but my guess is it wouldn't have made much of a difference.

if you can get the svcd on 2 cds i say go for it, but dling 2.4gigs for a TS is overkill.

Posted by krazyfoo on 05-15-2002 01:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by brr8760:

There is a bit of difference b/t VCD and SVCD. NO, the SVCD does not change the qulaity of the TS, but it does enhance the quality of this pic... if that makes sense. VCDs are encoded at 352X240. SVCDs are encoded at 480X480. If played on a computer, you cannot tell much of a difference, but if they were played on a DVD player on a tv bigger than your monitor, there is a significant difference. The extra 128X240 make the picture have to strech less to fit your TV.

hah.. ok.. thats partially right.. but how about the fact that VCD's use MPEG1 encoding.. and SVCDs use MPEG2.. which is the same compression that dvds use.. that and the svcd bitrate is much higher.. allowing for much better color and picture quality

saying that.. im undecided on this new svcd change.. i think its probably good... but hell i wait for the screeners :P
i like the idea of encoding vhs screeners to SVCD.. THAT is smart.. and from a master vhs tape.. can be of very high quality..

goodbye vcd.. hello svcd

Posted by milk02 on 05-15-2002 01:20 AM:

this isnt a typical svcd

Why does Centropy release their TS SVCDS in 480x576 ? Doesn't make a lot of sense. Should be 480 x 480.

Posted by M_J on 05-15-2002 01:45 AM:

diane lane = boner

9/9/9

Posted by ^Om3n on 05-15-2002 01:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by brr8760
As much as I prefer 2 cd releases-- for various reasons-- I TOTALLY respect Centropy's commitment to quality. The 2 CD re-encode of Spiderman made the difference clear. Bottom line: the picture quality is better on svcd.
appetite.

Of corse the recode was of lower Quality, but if it had been Encoded to VCD from the source, the difference in Quality would have been barely noticeable

VCD standards have a lower bitrate, but at the same time have lower resolutions, hence not requiring quite as much bitrate to achive the same quality

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Posted by Cardcaddy on 05-15-2002 02:18 AM:

You people are so stupid. Take one of the samples of the Centropy SVCD TS Releases and convert it to VCD and the quality is no where near comparable to the SVCD sample. You people need to get some contacts or something to not see the difference. SVCD TS is better, end of discussion. The only complaint that some have is the Pal format. Thats it.

Posted by gtbuzzbee on 05-15-2002 02:24 AM:

not bad

Considering is still a Cam this svcd is not bad at all. The sound is pretty good and for the most part the picture is good to! There is a little fuzz in the picture but is does not hurt the release at all. Nice work Centropy!

Posted by PepperKorn on 05-15-2002 03:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz
this is getting rediculous... svcd has nothing to do with the quality of a telesync.. the ctp svcd are as good quality as the ctp vcd.. its fine to want to be known for something different in the scene.. but what the fuck.. do we really need an svcd telesync of unfaithful?

What the hell are you whining about? you are getting this for free with very little risk to yourself, mean while CTP are risking their butts every time the cap a movie.

You always have a choice, download it or don't, no one is forcing you to grab it.

Oh BTW.....
The cam used is a high quality DV cam this will give very good results and to down sample to a VCD would negate some of that quality that is why they are SVCD.

Posted by krazyfoo on 05-15-2002 05:28 AM:

good job at reading the nfo's pepperkorn.. i think we all understand the relationship of a dv cam.. to higher quality.. but it would be higher as svcd even if it wre an old school vhs cam.

and woop dee doo.. Centropy prob doesnt REALLY take THAT much risk.. or they wouldnt do it so much.. cuz their luck would run out.. and if they ARE taken that much risk.. they are stupid.. and should know its really not worth it

ok.. im getting sick of replying like i know everything.. so stop makin me :P

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