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Posted by Scorch on 09-29-2004 10:47 AM:

Ah, sure, right when I get the fullscreen.

Thanks for this, though. Great stuff.


Posted by chiv on 09-29-2004 03:34 PM:

yep, nice release, especially from a group that ive never heard of before... and its got ac3... i was dreading that someone would do another "harry potter 3 ws", a much awaited release, but with mp3 audio... erk. but nope, spidey 2, widescreen, proper ar, nice and crisp, ac3 audio... good stuff. dump your fullscreens and get this

doesn't seem to be a screenshot of it yet, heres a comparison i took (someone was saying that fullscreen would show more than widescreen, so i had to show him he was incorrect.. ) may as well post it here so ppl can see it. top one is obviously the widscreen

spider-man fs/ws comparison


Posted by inferno12 on 09-29-2004 05:04 PM:

i heard that the f/x scenes are pan&scanned, so the ws shows more picture and the normal scenes have more picture in the fs...
maybe someone can try to capture from diffrent scenes (an action scene and a normal one). thanx!


Posted by soundifound on 09-29-2004 09:34 PM:

it shouldn't matter which shows more, its all about which one is correct (its Original Aspect Ratio). The director filmed this in widescreen, and thats what should be watched.


Posted by Redemption1980 on 09-29-2004 11:04 PM:

quote:
doesn't seem to be a screenshot of it yet, heres a comparison i took (someone was saying that fullscreen would show more than widescreen, so i had to show him he was incorrect.. ) may as well post it here so ppl can see it. top one is obviously the widscreen


Im assuming you mean me, for a fair comparison you need several different scenes from the film, dialogue and special effects shots.

quote:
i heard that the f/x scenes are pan&scanned, so the ws shows more picture and the normal scenes have more picture in the fs...


That sounds about right, would cost twice as much to create them for both transfers, T2 was the first film i noticed this in.


Posted by DaNIsH on 09-30-2004 05:05 AM:

Any idea why it was nuked?


Posted by chiv on 09-30-2004 07:13 AM:

okie doke... well ill be the first to admit it. i was HALF right... kinda

took some fx comparisons, and well.. check em out... in some respects, the fullscreen release, has more in em than the ws (sometimes they have been cropped on one axis, but show more on the other...), for the fx shots...take a look, hope they help some people make up their minds (i still dunno which i prefer, cuz im only interested in spidey2 for the visuals!)

spidey 2 fx comparison 1
spidey 2 fx comparison 2

i picked some of the more fx intensive shots, so you could really see the diffs. hope they are helpful.


Posted by gordosRD on 09-30-2004 08:34 AM:

one question, why this release is posted as nuked??


Posted by chiv on 09-30-2004 11:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by gordosRD
one question, why this release is posted as nuked??


someone posted this:

NUKED!
[Nuked 1 hour 46 minutes 13 seconds ago Reason: RETAIL.is.12.40.and.this.one.is.12.35]

whatever that means...?


Posted by Pedro14 on 09-30-2004 12:27 PM:

Thumbs down

Well this release seems very screwed up to me

I get lots of green s**t and the background pixels seem to be moving in a lot of scenes. Have I got a dodgy version?.


Posted by sander_kok on 09-30-2004 01:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chiv
someone posted this:

NUKED!
[Nuked 1 hour 46 minutes 13 seconds ago Reason: RETAIL.is.12.40.and.this.one.is.12.35]

whatever that means...?



Nice release, great audio + video! (9/10/9)
Thought that numbers had something to do with the minutes (as in 124.0 minutes) but the total lengths is 127.25 or something like that so that isn't right

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Posted by Hikari on 09-30-2004 01:45 PM:

lol RETAIL.is.12.40.and.this.one.is.12.35


actually 1:2.40 , 1:2.35



Posted by inferno12 on 09-30-2004 03:26 PM:

the sample looks great, but i will be sure when the dvd-r will apear. if a good rip doesn't show up, i`ll rent the retail and rip it myself... 3cds with ac3 will look good


Posted by mj- on 09-30-2004 06:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chiv
someone posted this:

NUKED!
[Nuked 1 hour 46 minutes 13 seconds ago Reason: RETAIL.is.12.40.and.this.one.is.12.35]

whatever that means...?



That's probably the aspect ratio: Release has 2.35:1 instead of 2.40:1 which would have required 560x240 resolution. Ridiculous nuke.


Posted by chiv on 09-30-2004 07:49 PM:

your right, that is stupid. the ar looks fine to me!!


Posted by inferno12 on 09-30-2004 08:15 PM:

560 x 240 means 2.33 aspect ratio
for 2.40 (the retail ar) the perfect resolution is 576 x 240.
i see that this is nuked for cropped.
and the dvd-r doesn't show up, so something is not right with the source of this rip.


Posted by Redemption1980 on 09-30-2004 08:26 PM:

Ah the nukers have got they're dunces hats on again.

I think someone better ask Sam Raimi on this one, imdb claim this was shot for 2:35:1, but Amazon claim the DVD is 2:40:1, obviously the nukers source of information.

But if you check all over the web, then you'll see half say 2:35 and the rest say 2:40, so who is right?

To be honest, even if we all had the DVD, it would be really difficult to tell, the difference is that minimal.

I ended up getting this through impatience waiting for the DVDR.

8/9/9


Posted by LaLooLa on 10-01-2004 01:37 AM:

5.1 audio does not work


Posted by mj- on 10-01-2004 10:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by inferno12
560 x 240 means 2.33 aspect ratio
for 2.40 (the retail ar) the perfect resolution is 576 x 240.



lol strange typo by me.


Posted by chiv on 10-01-2004 11:18 AM:

ok, i made these extra 'comparison images' mainly for myself, as i was unsure which version (fs or ws) i wanted, and also for those who werent sure which showed more, either... oh, and also for people who wanted more 'variety' in the comparison shots. i took heavy vfx shots and also shots where there are non (no obvious ones, atleast...).

plz dont think this is spam, i think its kinda useful.. it was very helpful to me, and somewhat opened my eyes as to how different versions are delivered.

ps, as for aspect ratio, it looks fine to me. if anyone wants to nuke it, well whatever, this release and its ar look bloody fine to me.

and finally, for the record, ive now decided to stick with the ws, over the fs, mainly because it is the intended way to view the film, the release looks 'neater', and overall, just gives a better view of the film. hope you enjoy/find use for, these comparison images

right, now the images:

spidey 2 comparison #1
spidey 2 comparison #2
spidey 2 comparison #3
spidey 2 comparison #4
spidey 2 comparison #5
spidey 2 comparison #6
spidey 2 comparison #7
spidey 2 comparison #8
spidey 2 comparison #9

dont worry, these are the last comparison images. hope this once and for all is all the material people need, to decide which release they want. laters.


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