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Posted by Ripper on 10-10-2008 12:29 AM:

Connecting the pc to my lcd tv

Ok i got a 1tb hdd coming filled with hd and blue ray rips to test
I don't want to watch em on my pc screen as it's too small and same for the lappy and now for my specs

Here's my tv
http://electronics.pricegrabber.co....tured/sv=title/

My old dell pc is a dell dimension 8400 specs here

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/7039...ml#latestPrices

Do i need a video card for this so it will work on my tv, i just tested it for a laugh with the normal vga lead to the tv and it fits but no picture, been a while since i messed with a pc and not up to scratch on my knowledge so thought i'd ask here so any ideas????

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Posted by The CandyMan on 10-10-2008 03:55 AM:

Go into the computer vidoe card properties and setup the tv as a second monitor. Clone (shows the same on both screen) seems to work best for me.

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Posted by Ripper on 10-10-2008 06:13 AM:

My Video card is the Radeon x800SE, will give it a shot now and report back

Cheers candyman

Input terminals-Video-PC/AV Digital: DVI-D(24pin) HDCP compatible [DVI1.0]
Input terminals-Video-PC Analog: RGB (mini D-Sub 15 pin),RGB (BNC x 5)*1*2*3

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Posted by Ripper on 10-10-2008 08:36 AM:

Just retried it mate and still the same, i updated the video card up to the latest version and still the same.
Every time i try to activate the 2nd monitor and apply it goes back to greyed out

Display Properties in Your PC set to Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor and checked i check this as well and when i hit apply then it automatically unticks itself.
Only thing i can think is the card is no good for the tv

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Posted by Objectivist Seal Hunter on 10-10-2008 09:19 AM:

Your computer doesn't have s-video (i think it is...) to component?

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Posted by Mother on 10-10-2008 10:59 AM:

Using the VGA cable, you must set your PC's screen resolution to one of the following:

VGA 640 x 480 60 Hz
SVGA 800 x 600 60 Hz
XGA 1024 x 768 60 Hz
WXGA 1360 x 768 60 Hz
SXGA 1280 x 1024 60 Hz

Or you could use a DVI to HDMI cable, which would let you select 720p/1080p outputs.

Either way, you will need a separate cable for the audio.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 10-10-2008 11:32 AM:

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Originally posted by Mother
Using the VGA cable, you must set your PC's screen resolution to one of the following:

VGA 640 x 480 60 Hz
SVGA 800 x 600 60 Hz
XGA 1024 x 768 60 Hz
WXGA 1360 x 768 60 Hz
SXGA 1280 x 1024 60 Hz

Or you could use a DVI to HDMI cable, which would let you select 720p/1080p outputs.

Either way, you will need a separate cable for the audio.

Ohhh Mother got to it before I could. This man only speaks the truth.

OSH as far as the S-Video to Component. Don't even bother with it. I don't think it'll support anything over 480p cause S-Video is still composite, and Component isn't digital either so therefor it's 100% analog.

I've tried the S-Video to Comp. and the results were just as bad as composite cables in my opinion.

Candyman you're right with the respect that Ripper know's what step he's on.

Aight Ripper here it goes. Take what Mother said as fact. I have used VGA and it looks decent but can only support 720p and doesn't have the picture quality that HDMI/DVI have.

Here is the way I have mine set up and it works perfect.

here is my setup:
AMD X2 5000+
DDR2 667 2gb
ATI 2600xt DVI & VGA Agp
Sound Blaster SE Pci
HDD 320gb IDE (Media), HDD 160gb IDE (OS)

Yes my pc needs newer technology updates, lol.

I currently have a 32in LCD Flat Panel Sceptre TV.
Only problem with it is I only have one HDMI port.

I have the DVI cable hooked up to my pc then I have a DVI adapter at the end so it can go from DVI to HDMI then It's plugged into the tv. My tv has like a headphone jack for audio, I have that hooked up from my sound card to to the TV. At the sound card I have the sound split with a two port headphone adapter, One goes to the TV, the other goes to my pc speakers.

That's the hardware setup.

I never clone the image, What if you wanna watch a movie and surf the web? So just extend the image to the other desktop and you can position which side you want it on.

This set up to get everything working correctly took me a while, and here is why.

I know HDMI is Digital, I read numerous times the chord makes no difference, In many ways that is correct, Digital in means digital out. What you're not realizing is the shielding makes a huge difference.

I was using my cheapy HDMI cable from the pc to the tv and I was getting a loud buzz, I read up on it and realized it could be a ground loop issue so I corrected that problem, The buzz softend but was still there and hard to watch movies. I then decided to try the DVI cable, I switched the HDMI cable out for the DVI cable and the buzz was gone. So the cable quality does make a difference.

The difference between DVI/HDMI and VGA is night and day. Don't bother with anything less then DVI/HDMI

Yes I would prefer a more efficent set up but I only have one pc, So therefor I have to make due with what I got.

Posted by Ripper on 10-10-2008 06:47 PM:

Hi guys, thanks for the reply's and this a handy post due to people moving up to using there tv's rather than another monitor in the room.
All i wanted to do is surf the net and fiddling with programs chatting on irc and watching blue ray and hd films and see if it's worth moving up to blue ray standalone and using the hdd to watch the rips till it becomes as easy to do what happens with normal dvd.

My card wont let me go down below 800 x 600 so that means i need a SVGA 800 x 600 60 Hz that mother listed or go up 1 to XGA 1024 x 768 60 Hz which i dont have a clue about.

Maybe time to upgrade the video card soon then to a HDMI/DVI so any good cards you can suggest for this with my spec base unit which is

pent 4 3000
3gb ram
Radeon x800 se
win xp with service pack 3

1 question is can i use a svga lead on my base unit to the tv till i have the money to upgrade the car?

Again thanks for the help guys much appreciated

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Posted by Ripper on 10-10-2008 06:56 PM:

Would this cable work ok for me for the video and i can get a audio cable from the guy which would save postage

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....4102b80fffdc90b

It only be temp till i can sort out a new video card in the jan sales then i don't mind spending a bit extra for the quality speciallly with the new blue ray and hd films and hopefully the tv series

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 10-12-2008 03:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripper
Would this cable work ok for me for the video and i can get a audio cable from the guy which would save postage

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....4102b80fffdc90b

It only be temp till i can sort out a new video card in the jan sales then i don't mind spending a bit extra for the quality speciallly with the new blue ray and hd films and hopefully the tv series

You sure can use that cord for VGA, Don't forget you'll need a chord for the audio, both ends will look like the end of a pair of headphones..

I'm going to assue you have a flat panel monitor? Since you can't go below 800x600? Your video card should support 1920x1080. I say should cause I don't know for sure.

VGA supports upto 720p so it'll look great, but not nearly as good as DVI/HDMI.

Posted by Neversoft on 10-12-2008 06:18 PM:

I've had a similar problem with my X880SE as well Ripper... My monitor is DSub only (but a decent monitor nonetheless) so I used a DVI>HDMI converter to the TV and DSub for the monitor and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get output to both of them in a satisfactory way - I wanted the TV to work in theatre mode over DVI/HDMI and it was having none of it.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 10-12-2008 07:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
I've had a similar problem with my X880SE as well Ripper... My monitor is DSub only (but a decent monitor nonetheless) so I used a DVI>HDMI converter to the TV and DSub for the monitor and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get output to both of them in a satisfactory way - I wanted the TV to work in theatre mode over DVI/HDMI and it was having none of it.

When I used the HDMI cable, I was having intermittent signal loss. I have no idea what was causing it.

If this helps ya Ripper I have a ATI 2600xt Agp card, My bro has a 2600xt pciE card, both work great for tv, and monitor use.

I'm currently using the VGA on my monitor since I don't use it for movies and it still looks pretty darn good.

For the tv I'm using the DVI cable with a DVI to HDMI adapter at the tv, Works flawless.

Posted by Ripper on 10-13-2008 07:25 AM:

I'm using a 15" monitor flat screen and i have these display setting available on my card on the monitor

800 x 600
1024 x 768
1152 x 864
1280 x 720
1280 x 768
1280 x 800
1280 x 960
1280 x 1024

Here's some pics and review of my card this may help you help me find the solution for my tv issue also what connections the card has at the back etc

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/20...02/msi_x800se/1

The back plate features the standard connections on a single slot blanking plate – much like all of ATI’s X800 series video cards. There’s the usual D-Sub, TV-Out and DVI-I connectors to allow for a wide range of display outputs – the bundle also includes a DVI-I to VGA converter for those of you who are running two analogue monitors. Along with the DVI-I to VGA converter, there’s a wide selection of cables and connectors for the TV-Out connector, including an RCA composite cable, an S-Video cable, a 7-pin S-Video to HDTV cable and an S-Video to Composite adapter.

Can i just use the xga to svga (tv to dell pc) for now with the audio cable temp till the jan sales ?

Thanks for the reply's guys

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Posted by Ripper on 10-13-2008 08:07 AM:

Or can get 1 of these if i get the nod from you lot, would it fit the dell unit with 3gb memory

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1GB-ATi-Radeo...parms=72%3A1301|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 10-13-2008 09:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripper
Can i just use the xga to svga (tv to dell pc) for now with the audio cable temp till the jan sales ?

Thanks for the reply's guys

I don't know what you mean by that.

I don't know if you can use that vid card or not bro, I don't know if your pc has a Agp or pciE slot, and depending on what type of pciE slot you'd have there are a few different kinds. I don't know much about pciE since I've barely dealt with em.

I looked at the specs on the pc, and It didn't say pciE unless I over looked it.

Dude seriously if you have a DVI out on your video card, use a DVI cable, and get this adapter.

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Male-DVI...23881468&sr=8-8

Posted by yoshy on 10-13-2008 10:54 AM:

Hey dude(para)

So what you are saying is,,,,,,,,, if my videocard ahs that dvi thingy output.........

I get that cable and adapter and i dont need no tvcard?

more info for a noob

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Posted by Mother on 10-13-2008 11:37 AM:

I have my PC set up with the main monitor connected via analogue VGA connections, and when I want to watch something in HD I connect up the LCD TV with a DVI to HDMI cable.

I have an ATI card, and yes, the Catalyst Control Centre is a bitch to set up how you want it. I did eventually, after a lot of fiddling, get Theater Mode working correctly - MPC showing the video windowed on the monitor, and fullscreen on the TV.

Posted by yoshy on 10-13-2008 11:45 AM:

*sits in the corner and waits for Mother to explain in English*

I have a pc and a hd

what do i need, do to accomplish this?

as in, leads, cards, adapters

I think, going by what I have read, If I get that dvi lead and run it from my video card, put the adapter on the end, then connect thru hdmi?

yes?

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 10-13-2008 02:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yoshy
*sits in the corner and waits for Mother to explain in English*

I have a pc and a hd

what do i need, do to accomplish this?

as in, leads, cards, adapters

I think, going by what I have read, If I get that dvi lead and run it from my video card, put the adapter on the end, then connect thru hdmi?

yes?

The easiest way to explain this. Maybe mother can help me simplify it, cause it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to set up if you know nothing about this.

There really is no such thing as a tv-out card.

Think of your TV as a monitor, I don't care if it's a tube TV it's still a monitor.

Video cards have outs, such as hdmi/vga/dvi/s-video/composite

All TV's have ins such as hdmi/vga/dvi/s-vid/component/composite

Most of your newer video cards have DVI/VGA

You hook your monitor up with the VGA cable correct? Why not just do the same with your tv? Instead use the DVI out, If you need the DVI to HDMI adapter then get it and hook it up.

Once hooked up right click on the blank area of your desktop and go down to properties and go to settings, and extend your desktop on the second monitor.

This cord http://www.svideo.com/stereoaudio20.html is what I use for my audio. plug it into the soundcard and out to the tv, and you've got sound.

The End.

You can use the Catalyst software if you wish, there are some usefull things with it. I never do. I just do it the way i mentioned above.

Posted by Ripper on 10-13-2008 08:17 PM:

So if i get what your saying correctly now is the following:

I plug in the dvi adapter into the video card and hook the cable up to the tv , then i turn the pc on with my 15" monitor and go into the display settings and add the tv to the video card as say secondary tv am i getting close

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