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Posted by Lemmon LowRider on 01-11-2003 04:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by oqwarrior

Hmm, I don't think it's the contrast. You can also see these light-black bars on top and on the bottom of the picture in the sample if you watch it in fullscreen on your computer. You have to look closely to spot them on the sample, but they are definately there.

That would make NO diferance, I said it was the contrast on the monitor, the fact that the bars were on the sample makes NO differance. If the monitor is a tad to high, then YES, then sample would also have those black bars.

Posted by BazoookaJoe on 01-11-2003 05:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by oqwarrior
Anyone know why the picture has a light-black bar right on top and right on the bottom of it? You can see this in the sample if you watch it in full screen. And it is much more visible on the standalone. Anyone know why this is?

These movies were filmed in Super35 and then cropped vertically to 2.35:1. I'm not an expert, but I am pretty sure what you're seeing is a "soft" matte applied at the top and bottom to hide the extra slices of image.

This page has examples from the pan-and-scan and letterbox versions of FOTR:
http://www.widescreen.org/examples/...hip/index.shtml

This explains it better than I can:
http://www.widescreen.org/aspect_ratios.shtml#Super35
In this example, the top of the frame is used, whereas in the LOTR movies, the middle is used.

If you got CTP's Spiderman or Undercover Brother TSs, you saw boom mics at the top of the screen occasionally. This is probably because CTP taped the movie from an unmatted source (likely a projector pointed at a wall or screen in the projection room). Pure guesswork on my part, so don't assume it's true, but compare the CTP Spiderman to the widescreen DVD and you'll see a LOT more vertical image on the TS.

Am I correct in thinking TDI could have cropped the image and used the bits that went into the soft matte elsewhere, or is the gain negligible?

Love this release BTW.

Posted by spiccolli on 01-11-2003 05:44 AM:

I can't help but wonder - wtf is the matter with a little bit of borked audio and "for your consideration" when you're getting a good qual. vid that is not gonna be out for sale or rent for like 8 more months?

I've been d/l flix for years and I love the GIFTS these rls groups give to us. Used to be you had to wait for a fkn VHS if you didn't know anybody at a video store to hook you up with a screener.

I give this rls 9 / 8 / 8.

Since I want a perfect rls, I'm gonna buy it at the end of 2003 on DVD in 6.1 digital and save my bitching for morning rush hour.

btw - Ohm load depends on if you wire your speakers in serial or parallel - there are ways to do it if you know what the fk you're doing.

PROPS and THX to all the RLS Groups EVERYWHERE!

that enough of that

peace

Posted by oqwarrior on 01-11-2003 05:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lemmon LowRider

That would make NO diferance, I said it was the contrast on the monitor, the fact that the bars were on the sample makes NO differance. If the monitor is a tad to high, then YES, then sample would also have those black bars.

Sure, lowering the contrast makes them go away, but what I want to know is why they are there. Did TDi use those bars to block out a serial or something? It's not that important; I was just curious.

Posted by Gville on 01-11-2003 06:15 AM:

quote:
Sure, lowering the contrast makes them go away, but what I want to know is why they are there. Did TDi use those bars to block out a serial or something? It's not that important; I was just curious.

Those light bars also show up in the Retail (store bought) of FOTR. They are barely noticeable, but they are surely there. They are especially noticeable in scenes of total darkness. The normal black bars not coded to 16:9, so the light black bars make it 16:9. Very strange indeed...

Posted by tycho55 on 01-11-2003 06:15 AM:

Okay guys, concerning the back bars seen in both the sample and actual movie. Anamorphic DVDs have a video aspect ratio of 16x9, or roughly 1.77. LOTR: TTT however was shot in Super 35 for a ratio of 2.35:1.

Thus, to fully recreate the entire 2.35 frame in a 1.77 box results in some small black bars on the top and bottom. It seems that on the DVD screener those black bars are not actually true black, so if your monitor's contrast/brightness is set too high, those bars will appear as a shade of gray in contrast to the actual black background of your monitor. Make sense?

P.S. The same can be seen with showing an anamorphic DVD on a 16x9 widescreen TV. The "black bars" are still present, but significantly smaller than those on a 4x3 screen. And if the contrast/brightness is set too high, those black bars can seem to be gray.

-- Tycho

Posted by Devnull on 01-11-2003 07:45 AM:

Finally got around to watching it on a big screen tv with a dvd player. Video is excellent but the audio sounds very compressed, especially in the higher frequencies and the sound effects often drowned out the dialouge. Still a good release but the audio should be better.

Posted by carbonknight on 01-11-2003 08:47 AM:

Yes

Hey guys, question for ya.... why isnt this baby on Kazaa yet?

I mean, doesn't it defeat the idea of file sharing in the first place to promote elitism? You know a big f you to all the music/movie industry types?

Posted by carbonknight on 01-11-2003 08:51 AM:

Nice job!!

Posted by Milesx2x on 01-11-2003 10:33 AM:

im looking for this...

Just wanted to know where i could get TTT DVDscr TDi, been looking for it on IRC and Kazaa and found nothin, plz help me if u have this movie.

Posted by Mr_Grinch on 01-11-2003 01:16 PM:

I'm all cured and better now! Although my hearing is still shot to shit.

Played it on my pc upstairs and on my dvd player downstairs and yes, I can hear the sound people are talking about. I didn't find it annoying, some might. I've experienced similair things, for example when I converted Harry Potter 2 Divx to SVCD so a friend could watch it on his dvd player, I got the same sound problems then.

Anyway, great release, this'll do me till the retail version comes out.

And there have been far too many posts about this release. Any chance of the thread being tidied up a bit?

Posted by crazyguy on 01-11-2003 04:33 PM:

quote:

:: why would you run a proper 5.1 system on a "virtual surround" that makes absolutely no sense to me....

I wasn't aware that this was a dolby 5.1 encoded release, so I enabled virtual surround so it came through all the speakers in the room, instead of just through the front two or the TV

crazyguy

Posted by flipp0r on 01-11-2003 06:09 PM:

watched this last night.
hard to find the time
but omfg it was so worth it.
TDi - *uNF*

pHo: SALSA SHARK!

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Posted by The Caller on 01-11-2003 06:13 PM:

Info

Pls could you tell me how the files are named and what is the resolution of the movie and finally if it is avi or mpeg? Thanx

:: its in the VCD section, so take a guess at which extension...

Posted by slipvayne on 01-11-2003 07:14 PM:

The.Lord.Of.The.Rings.The.Two.Towers.AC3.iNTERNAL.DVDscr.DivX-PosTX

That's out now, checked the sample, awesome quality. still waiting for the full movie (3 CDs)

:: out now ? try days ago...

Posted by Mugglenet12 on 01-11-2003 07:33 PM:

Amzing release. One of the best quality movies I've ever downloaded. Dont listen to the idiots that are saying the encoding or audio is bad. 10/9/9

Posted by dcm386 on 01-11-2003 08:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by crazyguy
I wasn't aware that this was a dolby 5.1 encoded release, so I enabled virtual surround so it came through all the speakers in the room, instead of just through the front two or the TV

Doesn't the system have Dolby Prologic capabilities?? I'd think that would sound better than VIRTUAL mode.

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quote:
Originally posted by neo_tokyo
i wonder who's teh retard here..

Posted by pcjerk on 01-11-2003 11:22 PM:

It isn't 5.1. Only the iND dvdr release is TRUE AC3 5.1

Posted by oqwarrior on 01-12-2003 01:10 AM:

Re: im looking for this...

quote:
Originally posted by Milesx2x
Just wanted to know where i could get TTT DVDscr TDi, been looking for it on IRC and Kazaa and found nothin, plz help me if u have this movie.

Tssk...tssk...tssk. No requesting!

Posted by AlanW3010 on 01-12-2003 01:11 AM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Deeps
[B]old time lurker, first time poster (like many)
finally put in the time to register since it seems nobody else noticed this

the .bin isnt a correct SVCD format.
Telling windvd to play the disc doesnt work.
Well it doesnt for me, anyone else wanna confirm this?
PowerDVD will play the disc in disc mode however, but it sounds crap in PDVD

Yeah, I was wondering about that. I thought it was just me.

I can only play it with WinDVD by putting the mpeg in a playlist.

In my standalone, its fine except that disc 1 iis Soooo close to 80 minutes that a small set of fingermarks on the CD edge stopped the last 30 seconds from playing. Or maybe my player is too fussy.

Anyway, GREAT release.

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