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Posted by Ren on 11-25-2002 09:52 AM:

as a good friend said to me, " if your looking 4 perfection BY THE DAMN DVD "


Posted by cx on 11-25-2002 10:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ren
as a good friend said to me, " if your looking 4 perfection BY THE DAMN DVD "



errrrrr buy

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Posted by Coolieman2001 on 11-25-2002 11:27 PM:

There is only a few movies i would ever buy and xXx is not one of them, so this release better be near perfect dvd quality


Posted by m-drew on 11-26-2002 01:45 AM:

TDC's release was good enough.


Posted by m-drew on 11-26-2002 01:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by krazyfoo
stop bitching... its a scene standard for 3 Cds over 120min.. might even be 118 or somethin.. but regardless... its a fine reason for a proper... nothing worth nuking over... and TDC's rls... DID compromise some crutial bitrate by using 2 CDs. noticable to anyone familiar w/ encoding.. u might not want this rls and be perfectly happy w/ TDC's rls.. but dont criticize a perfectly good proper..



/me just hopes FLiX didnt use DVD2SVCD again



Agreed. But the TDC version was excellent, so it didnt NEED to be propered, but as the scene rules are, its totally normal for it be and it should NOT be nuked.

Why do you hope FLiX didnt use DVD2SVCD?

Whats wrong with DVD2SVCD?


Posted by JoshNya on 11-26-2002 12:05 PM:

Its clear TDC is a good encoder from a top group who prefers 2 cd releases. Made a new group name and released it.

I personally watched it and saw no flaws. Its clear it was done by someone with experience and not some noob.

There are some expert groups who do 125 min to 2CDs, this isn't a first time thing.

If ya want perfection bitrate, buy the DVD. 2CDs is for me.


Posted by torcher on 11-26-2002 02:41 PM:

TDC's rip could have also been propered for not having any subtitles during all the parts in Czech for example.


Posted by psychoace on 11-26-2002 04:36 PM:

m-drew the reason why krazy said "i hope its not dvd2svcd" is cause the program puts a track before the movie with a pix of there logo on it. Its a waste of time and yes flix did encode with dvd2svcd on this one

p.s. I wonder why your not all bitching about the lack of subtitles you cared so much about femme fatal having them you would download a whole nother release but xxx has no subs even though the theater release i seen had them so the dvd must have them. I don't understand spanish or any of the other languages they speak.


Posted by slr on 11-26-2002 05:34 PM:

Angry

Have you guys WATCHED the entire TDC version on a standalone? I have, and it pixelates all over the place. Why do you guys continue using words such as "perfect"... "flawless" to describe it?? Pisses me off that people look at 2minute samples, or jpeg samples, and claim releases to be fine.

I'm downloading the 3cd FLiX version. Don't waste your time with this 2cd rip if you enjoy watching perfect dvdrips.


Posted by reelnewbie on 11-26-2002 07:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by psychoace

p.s. I wonder why your not all bitching about the lack of subtitles you cared so much about femme fatal having them you would download a whole nother release but xxx has no subs even though the theater release i seen had them so the dvd must have them. I don't understand spanish or any of the other languages they speak.



post where you see that dvd-features include subtitles. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...6361598-2199119
shows there is a version on VHS subtitled in Spanish, but that's it. haven't seen this movie since the ts came out, so can't remember if there were subtitles or not.


Posted by psychoace on 11-26-2002 08:54 PM:

from amazon "Format: Color, Closed-captioned, Widescreen, Dolby"
Closed caption=a form of subtitles.


Posted by Vtec on 11-27-2002 04:36 AM:

I overheard that this release was overbitrate, is that true? TDC's was underbitrate, FLiX's is overbitrate... we have another minority report fiasco coming soon, heh.

quote:
Originally posted by psychoace
p.s. I wonder why your not all bitching about the lack of subtitles you cared so much about femme fatal having them you would download a whole nother release but xxx has no subs even though the theater release i seen had them so the dvd must have them.
A HUGE (I emphasize on this word) percentage of Femme Fatale was in french whereas only a few scenes were in a foriegn language in this film. Just like TCF's Star Wars Episode II, 1 brief scene had the aliens talking something but I do not feel that released needed a PROPER due to a brief scene versus the majority of the film.


Posted by chocco on 11-27-2002 05:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by slr
Have you guys WATCHED the entire TDC version on a standalone? I have, and it pixelates all over the place. Why do you guys continue using words such as "perfect"... "flawless" to describe it?? Pisses me off that people look at 2minute samples, or jpeg samples, and claim releases to be fine.

I'm downloading the 3cd FLiX version. Don't waste your time with this 2cd rip if you enjoy watching perfect dvdrips.



I'm going to have to agree... saw it on a friends 40" tv last night and I could easily pick out certain scenes where pixelation occured.. Again I'm not complaining that this probably won't satisfy some people ... just that a proper was required and supplied by flix....


Posted by WiZZLa on 11-27-2002 09:01 AM:

Had the first cd from tdc, noticed the jagged edges & didn't bother with cd2, gonna have to get the flix rel.
btw, for those saying it's perfect/flawless etc, are you watching it on your monitor, an old tv, or something?


Posted by FliCKr on 11-27-2002 11:56 AM:

it still amazes me that people complain about having a CHOICE of versions!


Posted by YDKDY on 11-28-2002 02:57 AM:

Question LMAO

".. good idea, lets release a 3cd version over a flawless 2 cd version, then blame them 4 puting it on 2 cd's as a excuse for releasing it late"

Jesus there are some lame ass peeps in the world. Obviously you guys dont know that there are rules to releasing SVCD movies! The only reason they are there is so some lame ass group that doesnt give a shit about what it looks like can't release BS material... The rules are there for a reason so for those who dont know about them they should shut up cus the group that screwed up the first release did know about them!!! They had plenty of time to release a proper, but they didn't so if you wanna bitch about a stupid release then you should look to the first group who jacked it up!


Posted by desertboy on 12-05-2002 09:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoshNya
Its clear TDC is a good encoder from a top group who prefers 2 cd releases. Made a new group name and released it.

I personally watched it and saw no flaws. Its clear it was done by someone with experience and not some noob.

There are some expert groups who do 125 min to 2CDs, this isn't a first time thing.

If ya want perfection bitrate, buy the DVD. 2CDs is for me.



Are you on crack, I've got TDC pixelated piece of shit and I have to say it's only midly better than the screener and the screener was shit as well.

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Posted by backoff on 12-07-2002 01:28 AM:

NEWB ALERT

If you know anything about encoding (I know some) you know you put an ACTION movie over 2 hours on 3 CDs. The bitrate is MUCH lower on a 2 CD version. If it were a movie that didnt have much action , it wouldnt be so bad to have a 2 CD SVCD release. But this movie has action doesnt it. I prefer a 3 CD release I dont mind getting up off my ass to change the CDs. There are such things as 3 and 5 DVD changer players... it isnt a big deal to push a button on the remote to change the CDs jesus christ. You should always go for the highest bitrate when encoding movies (I never go lower than 1900) the lower you go the more pixelated and the worse it looks. Just logic. Props for both groups. We arent releasing the movies so we cant bitch when they have to spend money to give us releases and we just leave our comps on all night and have the movie in the morning.


Posted by likwid8 on 12-10-2002 11:45 PM:

bitrate?

sorry but what was the actual video bitrate of this proper release?


Posted by cueandbin on 12-19-2002 11:22 PM:

Quality is great, no problems here. I run the svcd in both the my computer monitor and my flat screen tv, and it works great.


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