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Posted by daNnY^4LiFe on 01-10-2003 01:46 PM:

Pretty good, but TDi's was better....


Posted by Bobby-Whiskey on 01-10-2003 02:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Alien Venom
God damn! After looking at that screenshot, it reminds me of the movie. Golum is the ugliest looking thing, ever.


LOL gollum rules

internal eh? looks like i'll probably only get to see the low-sounding one then :/ oh well, i guess its a hell of a lot better than those ass tses that were released


Posted by hippyhater on 01-10-2003 02:05 PM:

there was NO problem with the tdi releases sound.....

it was not mechanical, it was not echoey, it was not too low

if it wasnt internal it should be nuked, but its internal, so who really cares


tdi rls = 10/10/10
this one = pointless


Posted by Soylent Green on 01-10-2003 02:11 PM:

PCPhreak : there were no "SOUND ISSUES" with the TDi version , so shut up


Posted by bass on 01-10-2003 02:38 PM:

tdi version is probably better, but maybe we'll see something better than both of them soon?


Posted by DGR on 01-10-2003 02:54 PM:

well, opinions differ on the quality of the sound with the TDi release. I personally think it wasn't up to par, the fact that it's very low isn't the problem... but I did notice a metallic sound... it just wasn't as good as it could be. (Both on my standalone dvd-player as on my puter). I'll be looking for this one to check it out...


Posted by chrisnmestuff on 01-10-2003 03:25 PM:

omg listen to me u muppets

The scene is filled with uneducated wankers who try to sound intelligent. If you dont know what your talking about keep your mouth shut ok. The TDI sound version is perfect surround sound with enhanced spectrum, however some PEOPLE who dont disable the SRS etc, and then try to play it through a shitty little pre-amp will get a buzz. This is because of the redundant audio channels they have left coz they dont know what they are fuking doing. The sound is very maleable but to get max performance play with a decent card and speakers.So in answer to all the questions, the tdi sound is nigh on perfect. The wankers who complain about buzzing shud by themselves a decent system, or learn how to unchek boxes.


Pah

:: no, these idiots u speak of don't represent the 'scene' they represent their own stupidity only. -pHo


Posted by Twista on 01-10-2003 03:27 PM:

I still Think TDI's version is good, even a 4 cd's


Posted by lordsnooty on 01-10-2003 03:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by hippyhater
there was NO problem with the tdi releases sound.....

it was not mechanical, it was not echoey, it was not too low


So why do other people notice the terrible whiney audio, and you don't?

There absolutely is a problem with the audio on the tdi release. This is a fact. If you can't hear it, good for you, but (un)fortunately we are not all afflicted with your hearing impediment.

Paul


Posted by timmoy on 01-10-2003 04:14 PM:

to the guy at the bottom

No the AR isnt like that

Its the program used that took the snapshot


Remember People *internal*

It wasnt meant for us so stop moaning

TDi was very nice ,


Posted by lordsnooty on 01-10-2003 04:24 PM:

Re: omg listen to me u muppets

quote:
Originally posted by chrisnmestuff
The scene is filled with uneducated wankers who try to sound intelligent. If you dont know what your talking about keep your mouth shut ok. The TDI sound version is perfect surround sound with enhanced spectrum, however some PEOPLE who dont disable the SRS etc, and then try to play it through a shitty little pre-amp will get a buzz.

Oh, right. So the sound is perfect if you have some really expensive home cinema, complete with decent amp and ten thousand buttons. It's perfect quality. For 1% of the people that will play it.

Great.

And as for 'uneducated wankers', your post makes me feel glad that I'm educated in the realm of basic spelling and grammar, rather than home theatre.


Posted by suckfrog on 01-10-2003 04:27 PM:

TDi realease sound

chrisnmestuff - im not sure if you do know what you are talking about.

But the tdi realease _does_ have a very little buzz, and I am playing it straight with no srs effect or like. I have an expenzive and good hi-fi amplifier and very good speakers too, and that makes it easy to determine if there is a metalic buzz - try to turn up your treble/discant to maximum, it will make it even more easier to hear/determine if there is the "buzz". If you cannot hear it, then either your setup/sound system is not good enough to play that high freqeuncies or you simply cant hear them!

// jakob


Posted by yazooo on 01-10-2003 04:28 PM:

i really dont understand all this "metallic" bull ppl seem unable to stop complining about. if it was a universal fault with the rls, which everybody confirmed, then yes, its tdi's fault and thats ok.

however, as it can be seen, the fault only seems to be on certains ppl computers, and their setups. i dont share the problem, the sound is great thru my pc, and standalone. i have come across dodgy hissing and such before thru rls, all of which can be reduced thru some tinkering, besides, as long as its not really bad, u find that once ur into the movie, u find urself compensating, and not paying so much attention to the bad sound (if thats the case).

anyway, the only reason i see for d/ling this is if u cant b arsed with 4 cds, it does save some d/ling, especially for those on pay news access servers where there is a limit.


Posted by b00bie on 01-10-2003 05:58 PM:

LAME!

Flix has been known to do *this* , on the rare occasions they can. When i say *this* let me elaborate , Flix had in the beginning ,when the chance was there , download a DVDR source
and make a rip themselves ,which in a sence is a reencode/or better said stealing someones source ,and for all you people who say they couldnt ,trust me they had more then enough time to dl it and rip it up real fast, mind you the encoder maybe on a 10mbit+ edu link or something , but thats very common and any decent group usually has a 100mbit encoder .So lets get down to the point
1. They had the oppurtunity(source)
2. They easily had the time
3. They have done it before
4. *most important point* FLiX does not have a dvd scr supplier!!!! or no iam sorry they do ,but there person gets titles like love liza and shit, obviously not a OSCAR supplier ,and anyone affilated with the movie scene and half a brain will tell you that havent got one (OSCAR supplier) and its obvious what groups do ,*TDi having the best *thats why FLiX have been getting hammered all OSCAR season, cause they dont have the supplier, shit tcf and that v4f group are the only ones that kinda somewhat keep up with TDi(somewhat is a stretch, however thats a whole new debate) Anyways its plain to see this is a DVDR--->SVCD encode and a stolen source , if they had said in the nfo that they had done that it would be kinda cool, not even really but acceptable to most(still lame to me) but they didnt, and dont give me that shit about being internal , WRONG is WRONG and FLiX is only that.

P.S. they have done some nice retail dvd
But are alot LAMER in my book now


Posted by esCobar on 01-10-2003 06:39 PM:

There is no metallic buzz, the sound is quite clear. The problem is that it's just low. The buzz youre hearing is probably from having the volume on your tv turned up as high as it can go.

I had the volume all the way up and it was still pretty low. I put it through my stereo and it was fine. Cause you can just go a little louder on your stereo to make up for it. And if you youre already using youre stereo, Im sure you didnt even notice the low sound...

But if you cant put it through a stereo, the sound will be kinda low.


Posted by torcher on 01-10-2003 06:43 PM:

Just watched this internal release. The jpg sample which was made doesn't reflect the true video quality at all. Anyways, I liked it, and will keep this version rather than the tdi one with the so-so sound until retail comes out. Nothing wrong with it being 3cds.. movie is a little less than 180min... just like 120min movies can fit 2cds with no problem. 9/10/8


Posted by yazooo on 01-10-2003 07:06 PM:

interesting point bout the possibilty of this being stolen, but that just seems speculation. no proof attached, and we wouldn't want to bash it just coz it was possible, lots of things r that way.

and just for interest, what was the case where they had done it beofre and did that come out as proven?


Posted by Faceman on 01-10-2003 08:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PCPhreak
So this release fixed the sound issue. Can we assume it is using the same/similar source?


has to be the same source.

i hear TDi's sound is only a problem on the computer, standalones are fine. only what i heard, I didn't get around to burning all 4 and when i exported the sample to my tv it seemed fine (was only a minute though).


Posted by hippyhater on 01-10-2003 08:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lordsnooty

So why do other people notice the terrible whiney audio, and you don't?

There absolutely is a problem with the audio on the tdi release. This is a fact. If you can't hear it, good for you, but (un)fortunately we are not all afflicted with your hearing impediment.

Paul




uh sorry buddy, i burnt it about 6 copies and gave them out to all different people who ALL didnt have problems with it. so it isnt a fact.


Posted by exorcist on 01-10-2003 09:01 PM:

there is a mechanical buzz in the release, i noticed it instantly before even coming here to confirm this. I downloaded the XviD to double-check the sound quality, i'm guessing the source dvd has poorly mastered sound since ViTE decided to run with 135kbit mp3, which is kind of low. You can get rid of the mechanical buzz by turning down treble, or i minimized it by running it through a Simple MPG2(Auto) multiplex.

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