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Dune Books

Just to clarify for people. And please correct me if I'm wrong.

Frank Herbert was writing a trilogy:

1. Dune
2. Dune Messiah
3. Children of Dune

Then a linking book, to link the first trilogy to the second trilogy:

4. God Emporer of Dune

Then the second trilogy:

5. Heretics of Dune
6. Chapterhouse of Dune
7. Unfinished

The first three are all the life of Paul and his children. The forth is set thousands of years after, at the end of the reign of Paul's son, Leto. The next three are set thousands of years after that, focusing on the Bene Gesserit and their struggle to remain a major power in a rapidly expanding universe. This new TV series presumbaly concludes the first trilogy.

Frank's son, Brian, has been working hard on expanding the Dune universe. He (with someone else who I forget the name of) wrote a prequal trilogy, set in the 20 years or so before Dune. There were:

1. Dune: House Atreides
2. Dune: House Harkonnan
3. Dune: House Corrino

Next, he set to work on establishing more back story, starting by detailing the events leading up to the Butlerian Jihad (In Dune: The Butlerian Jihad). What he plans next, I don't know. All this back-story is, of course, just an excuse to sell more books with the word Dune on the cover, but he claims that it is all necessary before we can understand the full scope of what Frank intended to do with book 7.

Any mistakes I've made I apologise for, and there's bound to be some spelling errors in here. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, though I'm pretty sure I'm not.

As for quality, I only just this minute noticed it was released, so I have no idea. I still think this post has merit though, and hope someone else hasn't explained all this while I've been typing.

- Jimmni

only got CD1 of this so far but the qulaity is excellent - b&w section but otherwise VERY nice.

Before this I got a divx'd version of it which has been compressed WAY too much - so if you can hold out for the VCDs I urge you to do so.

P.

well, thanks to all of you for these informative posts which are certainly helpful to me.

The quality of this release is excellent. The video and audio quality are top notch.

However, before i go and burn this to 5 cds that i have already downloaded, i was just wondering if anybody could tell me whether or not I need to be or should be familiar with the other Dune books or movie or anything. Any replies would be greatly appreciated

well, i think surely some knowledge of the first dune book is needed... u wont know who many of those characters are... there r many synopses and such available all over... i think the best thing would be to familiarize yourself with the main characters--who they are in relation to each other, what they do, their history ect--and a bit of the plot thus far...

if you really wanted to be complete continuity wise, watch the first scifi channel miniseries, the one that this is a continuation of...

but other than that, knowledge of other dune books is not required... only the first

This Was An Awesome Release I Love DVDR I Was Able To Burn All 5 MPEGS TO ONE DVDR Disc and this movie excedded my expectations 8/10/10 the video would have gotten a 10 but the black and white stuff was a bit annoying

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Children Of Dune RULED

just finished watching it
kicked some major ass!!

the books ofcourse were better, but still, a really kool sci-fi movie.

anyone have any links with info on the 7th book??

im just finishing chapterhouse, it seems to leave you with alot of questions

Heretics of Dune

quote:

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Originally posted by MystLurker
1. Dune
2. Dune Messiah
3. Children of Dune
4. Godemporer Dune
5. Chapterhouse Dune

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finally got all of this - and it was worth the wait

This came from a DVD screener so they probably intentionally put the black and white in there to annoy the crap out of us. Much props to the people that released.

Okay, so I finally got around to watching this whole thing. It was, in a word, wonderful.

I was actually watching the VHS screener, rather than the DVD. It was also 5 discs, and it had the B&W in it too. In any case, that particular rip was kinda fuxored because there were minute-long segments missing from the beginnings of 4 of the 5 MPEGs. So I won't comment on the quality at all here in this thread.

But the movie is amazing. One of the most tragic I've ever seen. Far more heart-wrenching than any Shakesperean tragedy I ever read. Perhaps the hardest part for me was that I first saw Dune as a kid almost 15 years ago. And since then, I have watched it several times, both on screen and just going over it in my head. And I read the book (the first one only) and saw the first SF series ... and the basic impression I was left with after the first book was ... "All is right with the world! The Dune messiah came and everyone lived happily ever after!"

But as Irulan points out at the beginning, there is never an end to the story. All good things do indeed turn sour. And every moment of this series just pressed home the point that even the most well-intentioned, powerful people -- even the ones who can see the future -- cannot pave the way for eternal peace and well-being for their descendants.

And none of these messages and emotions could possibly have been conveyed had any of the important players in the story been portrayed by any less than the finest actors. Even Susan Sarandon, with whom I had the most difficulty seeing in her role, ended up fitting her bill to a tee. Irulan (Julie Cox) was amazing, despite the fact that she doesn't seem to have an IMDb page. At first in Dune you hate her because she's the pretty girl who gets everything she wants. But by the end of Children, she is the most upstanding and righteous person in the entire story. I'm completely in love with her now. Alec Newman's portrayal of Paul and then the older Paul reveals his versatility as an actor, despite his rather one-sided appearance in the first series. Alia (Daniela Amavia)'s insanity, Duncan (Edward Atterton) and Gurney (P.H. Moriarty)'s loyalty, Baron Harkonnen (Ian McNiece)'s infantile glee ... everything was just spot on.

Reading the book is usually better than watching a movie adaptation because the written word can convey subtleties of mood and expression that the actor or camera sometimes overlooks. But not in this case ... each of Jessica (Alice Krige)'s gestures and glances betrayed her lifelong grief intermingled with the detachment of being a Bene Gessirit. Every shared moment between Leto (James McAvoy) and Ghanima (Jessica Brooks) was real for me. As if these were two people I knew firsthand.

I was so drawn into this story -- something that doesn't usually happen to me when I watch such an extended drama. There's so little action in this movie compared to the first SF series, and yet I couldn't stop watching. I kept wanting things to turn out all right, and at each turn there was another setback, another painful reminder of reality even there, in that mythical Dune setting.

I almost can't bear to watch the whole thing again ... I don't think I could sit through it without the hopes that I had the first time -- that everyone could still live happily ever after. But nonetheless I'm sure I will watch it again. It's so incredibly powerful.

I haven't cried during a movie since Schindler's List, and that was at the end ... the "happy" part, if you will. I cried several times in this movie. Part of it was Brian Tyler's epic score. Part of it was the pained tone of the narrators (Cox and, at the end, Brooks) as they summed up in a few short, blunt sentences the totality of the human condition. The characters' pain was so real ... I couldn't avoid being absorbed in it.

Do watch this film. It might be just another good story for you. Or it might change the way you perceive the everyday happinesses that we often overlook.