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Posted by Bobby-Whiskey on 07-31-2003 01:31 PM:

LOL classic!

Posted by Tornado69 on 07-31-2003 08:01 PM:

you people aren't very bright, I'd like to see the color of your underwear if you received a letter like that from Paramount Pictures ... wouldn't want to be in your shoes right now X69 ...

Posted by jeffreyw on 07-31-2003 10:41 PM:

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Originally posted by Tornado69
you people aren't very bright, I'd like to see the color of your underwear if you received a letter like that from Paramount Pictures ... wouldn't want to be in your shoes right now X69 ...

thing is that paramount can't really do anything because they never had and proboly never let you download movies from them or tell you where they are. this site is strictly information about movies on the net and the quality of them. every statement paramount makes about this site is fictorous.there stupid iddiots who proboly took 3 minites to brouse this site and came to the conclusion that they offered illigal downloads of there movies,which they don't. vcdquality is doing nothing illigal by offering this site to the plublic and would be violating free speech amendments by doing anything to any admin of this domain.

Posted by Tornado69 on 07-31-2003 10:45 PM:

There posting illegal screenshots of an illegally pirated movie, I'm not saying that it's totally illegal, it's kind of in a grey area, be interesting to see if it goes any farther and if it will be judged legal, or illegal.

Posted by horizonstar on 07-31-2003 11:11 PM:

X69, if you're willing, I'd like to call these people (professing to have seen a news story about their letter to you on TV or something) and set them in their place. I realize you probably don't want to post it here in this thread for fear that all the 13-year-olds will crank call the studio and get you in even more shit. I'd like to think that I could have a more intelligent phone conversation with them that wouldn't get you into any more trouble but might make them see the error of their ways.

If interested, just pm me.

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Posted by shorty6pac on 08-01-2003 12:30 AM:

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Originally posted by horizonstar
X69, if you're willing, I'd like to call these people (professing to have seen a news story about their letter to you on TV or something) and set them in their place. I realize you probably don't want to post it here in this thread for fear that all the 13-year-olds will crank call the studio and get you in even more shit. I'd like to think that I could have a more intelligent phone conversation with them that wouldn't get you into any more trouble but might make them see the error of their ways.

If interested, just pm me.

But if you want that crank call to the studio just pm me

Posted by JDabomb on 08-01-2003 01:41 AM:

Dont you have a legal disclaimer on the front page X69? Doesnt it state their not allowed to even enter or look at the site.

Posted by Biznaz on 08-01-2003 04:56 AM:

I think Paramount's weasels argument is going to be that the pictures in question are of copyrighted content. Now, while it is true that the content of the pictures is copyrighted by Paramount, is it illegal to take a picture of something copyrighted? I think this is something similar to taking screenshots in video games. If I take a screenshot of a pc game, which is copyrighted, and host it on my webspace for others to see, is that copyright infringement?

Posted by Forbidden on 08-01-2003 06:12 AM:

My thoughts

I am new to your forums, but I have been browsing your site for months and I find it to be a very useful resource.

I would hate see it go away over some gay legal shit.

So here is what I would do if I was you, I would immediately remove your image.php file from the website, and you can always upload it again later after you have consulted a layer.

But I would tempory remove the image.php script from the website, or change it to display something like "Under Reconstruction", so it will not display any images that are of coppywritted material.

Then I would consult a layer that knows a lot about Laws of Copyrights, and Free Use.

Good Luck,

Posted by startrader on 08-01-2003 06:25 AM:

what if you just didn't post the jpegs. i think the site is good enough with how everyone rates the ones that come out

Posted by CoWs` on 08-01-2003 09:17 AM:

i think everyone at vcdq should pitch in money and we should get a high priced laywer, let paramoutn thinkg there is "movies to download" let them take further action, then BAM! LAWSUIT right up there alley, then give X69 mon-ay so he can buy drugs etc...plus more pics of girls in clubs... kthx

Posted by nitrogen666 on 08-01-2003 11:04 AM:

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Originally posted by Tornado69
There posting illegal screenshots of an illegally pirated movie, I'm not saying that it's totally illegal, it's kind of in a grey area, be interesting to see if it goes any farther and if it will be judged legal, or illegal.

Unfortunately, it is entirely illegal. This is due to the 'in whole or in part' clause of the copyright.

As it stands, Paramount are residing on pretty solid ground.

Posted by The CandyMan on 08-01-2003 02:46 PM:

I would contact a lawyer as soon as possible, but also I beleive that you will, from here on out, have to kill all sample jpgs of any releases. The first letter refers to that, and the second seems to ask you to turn over any illegal copies, including the ones that sample jpegs have been obtained from. It won't be as good without a sample jpg, but most of us know better than to judge quality based on the jpegs, so all voting will have to be on samples clips that the members obtain themselves, which you do not provide. I do believe that any picture taken from a copyright material, ie a sample pic from movie, and posted without permission from the copyright owner is a copyright infringement, but they cannot demand you relinquish any materials you have obtained, legally or not, as that would incriminate yourself, which goes against the 5th admendment.

Talk to a lawyer, see if I am correct or incorrect, and let us know. But for now, I would kill all sample jpegs, and see what happens.

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Posted by eST0r on 08-01-2003 03:04 PM:

Do you guys have any knowledge of Law? Did you guys even read the Letters? This isn't the first time we have gotten a letter like this, and it won't be the last. Paramount isn't stupid, they know they have the Brass when it comes to these things; it's just a scare tactic. Screenshots of Pirated Movies is not illegal, if it were drudgereport.com wouldn't post our caps up everytime some group releases a big-name-flick. So, everyone who is screaming Lawyer, Grey-Zone, blah...blah....blah... You're wrong, 100%

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Posted by krazyfoo on 08-01-2003 03:11 PM:

and if worst comes to worst... as far as removing jpegs... ud only have to remove the ones that are paramount related (still a hefty number of movies.. but still not all of them... and definently not crippling to the site)

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Posted by pHo on 08-01-2003 03:40 PM:

just have the goat.se man with "Paramount Pictures Sucks Bum Weasels" in big letters on it in its place.

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Posted by Mystic Slippers on 08-01-2003 04:41 PM:

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Originally posted by pHo
just have the goat.se man with "Paramount Pictures Sucks Bum Weasels" in big letters on it in its place.

...or a picture of a biscuit tope color Austin Princess with the caption "i drove one of these.......in 1976" under it.

Posted by Mystic Slippers on 08-01-2003 04:45 PM:

For example.

Posted by PhreakerX on 08-01-2003 11:52 PM:

Paramount is like a big dragon with no teeth or flame, they can only wander around and scare people, but in reality do nothing...

so...

FUCK THE MPAA

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Posted by Senic on 08-02-2003 07:59 AM:

I just seen this after someone said something about x69 getting letters from Paramount ahahahahahahaha. They actually think that this site is reproducing the movie and making it available for download haahhahahah.
I seriously don't think those letters are from Paramount. Its just some other dumbass bitch that doesn't know shit.

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