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Posted by brr8760 on 05-05-2002 12:02 AM:

quote:
im sure ftf will leech this.

Hey, FTF has: a) greatly improved their quality, b) created a lot of movies, c) released them faster than anyone, and d) has never done ANYTHING leech-like. (we're the leeches, remember?)

We should all be RESPECTFUL of FTF, even as we note that Centropy is "Long Dong Silver," and FTF is Napoleon's shriveled, 3-inch long museum piece.


Posted by Cubbs on 05-05-2002 01:48 AM:

Hmm, SVCD->VCD

I just started getting CD 1 so i haven't seen it yet, but it what people say is true, i think i'm going to do a high quality reencode to two VCDs. If for nothing else just for my own purposes. 1 less CD swap, and will work with a bunch more standalones.

*Shrug*


Posted by stuckx on 05-05-2002 02:05 AM:

Angry CD2 PROBLEM NEED FIX

CD1 AND CD3 WORK PERFECT IN MY DVD (APEX AD-1500) BUT THE CD2 DONT WORK BUT IT WORK ON MY PC (POWER DVD). I just sracth 2 CD-R .. Please Do a Fix

Thx


Posted by Achilles97206 on 05-05-2002 02:26 AM:

This is not a Telesynch...

Ok, anyone else notice how the aspect ratio changes at almost every cut during the sample? It goes from really wide, to just sorta wide, and then back and forth again. I'm thinking this SVCD is from some kind of workprint because there's no reason the aspect ratio would change in the mpg... unless they messed up when they encoded it... there's also some weird large black shapes that show up at the top of the frame which appear to be masking something... anyone able to shed some light on this?


Posted by Visigoth on 05-05-2002 02:35 AM:

Anyone else notice that the AR switches alot from cut to cut?


Posted by Achilles97206 on 05-05-2002 02:38 AM:

Heh... answered my own question

This is DEFINATELY a workprint. If you notice - the aspect ratio goes down to it's proper 2.35:1 wherever there are digital effects. The movie was filmed originally at a different aspect ratio and the top and bottom are chopped off when it's scanned into the computer so they have less to deal with. The shots that haven't been modified on the computer maintain their taller aspect ratio of about 1.85:1. There is no way that this release came from a theater (not that it really matters, but it would be nice if Centropy actually told us the truth.) Anyway... just thought I'd fill people in.


Posted by plonk420 on 05-05-2002 03:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by [psycho]
fuckin amazing !!!
Im gettin a boner !!



bad boy! go sit in the corner!


Posted by plonk420 on 05-05-2002 03:12 AM:

i thought i heard there was an "invisible" watermark to make finding TS-makers easier... <cough> invisible <coughbullshitcough> hehe

also, my theater got some "don't pirate this movie or i'll tattle on you" letter with the movie, and someone also hung up a note from the MPAA (pirates are baaaad, m'kay?). funny, funny shit, yo!

i'm hearing despiration creeping into their voices... lol!


Posted by M_J on 05-05-2002 03:19 AM:

why a svcd?

my crappy dvd player cant hande svcd's but oh well. Im still downloading it! Excellent work Centropy. FTF take notes!


Posted by plonk420 on 05-05-2002 03:24 AM:

Re: Heh... answered my own question

quote:
Originally posted by Achilles97206
This is DEFINATELY a workprint. If you notice - the aspect ratio goes down to it's proper 2.35:1 wherever there are digital effects. The movie was filmed originally at a different aspect ratio and the top and bottom are chopped off when it's scanned into the computer so they have less to deal with. The shots that haven't been modified on the computer maintain their taller aspect ratio of about 1.85:1. There is no way that this release came from a theater (not that it really matters, but it would be nice if Centropy actually told us the truth.) Anyway... just thought I'd fill people in.


grrrrrr... it's NOT the AR that's changing, it's the matting. if the AR WERE changing, it'd get skinny and take up the whole frame (Scope is stretched 2:1; the lens squishes it back down again when projecting the image). and furthermore, "it's proper" AR is 1.85:1, 'cause Sony was ghetto like that.


Posted by MrHappy on 05-05-2002 04:23 AM:

This damned thing doesn't play in a Pioneer 440 which plays everything I throw at it. Plays like a PAL movie, audio fine but scrolling black and white picture.... Apparently this was done in a non-standardized SVCD format!?!? What a pain in the ass.... CTP owns but damnit why fuck with the norm on a movie like this.... yeesh.


Posted by rotweiler on 05-05-2002 04:42 AM:

Centropy's Release of Spiderman

Amazing.... absolutely amazing! - How the newbies fawn and genuflect everytime a Centropy release comes out - even a really bad one like this.

Before I am accused of matricide....read on. There is an SVCD standard. This release by Centropy is NOT to that standard and is therefore NOT playable on a majority of the dvd machines out there.

Now, you CAN continue to praise (usually from peeps who have only seen the sample jpegs; or you can send Centropy and other groups a message:

Your work is good; it is appreciated. But if you continue to release movies that very few can play, even the newbies will pass on your releases.

The one, the only, Rotweiler


Posted by adamg on 05-05-2002 04:51 AM:

You guys need to reconsider

Uh...
1. centropy rlsd this after TEG
2. the TEG rls is 2 cds, centropy is 3
3. TEG's rls looks every bit as good as ctp's
why the hell are you all giving so much praise to centropy? Sheep.


Posted by deftones6 on 05-05-2002 05:07 AM:

ya, i have an apex ad-1500 and i cant fast forward part 2 either, i can fast forward 3, but i havent tried 1. Does this happen to anyone that doesnt have an apex ad-1500, cause the other person who had the problem said they had the same problem.


Posted by deftones6 on 05-05-2002 05:17 AM:

hey, i answered my own question about disc 2. I extracted the mpeg data with iso buster to create an mpeg2, then burned it and it worked fine.


Posted by PlanNine on 05-05-2002 05:28 AM:

Cool Thankful......

Firstly, I saw this movie in the theatre before I went looking to download it since I felt it deserved my $4.50. (Gotta love matinee discount shows)

Second, it's things like this that make me thankful I just play the movies off a laptop thats hooked into my entertainment system.

WinDVD (and sometimes even Media Player), on a laptop with solid video out to a TV saves me tons of headaches with worrying about VCD/SVCD compatibility, (and swapping discs), though I realize not everyone has such a luxury.

Maybe I'm nuts but the old saying of "beggers can't be choosers" comes to mind when I go looking for any release. I know I can't do better, so I'm thankful for whatever I can get from others, and I can't see that I have a right to bitch in any case.

There are 2 Spiderman releases out there now that I've seen. Are either of them perfect? Hell no. If you want perfection, stop looking on the web and wait for the DVD release. Centropy, FTF, TEG and others don't owe you or I anything , keep that in mind, and just be thankful for whatever you can get.

My 2 cents and I realize plenty will both agree and disagree with me. Constructive criticism welcome.

PlanNine
Outer Space Inc.


Posted by skunkyhydro on 05-05-2002 05:42 AM:

Re: Centropy's Release of Spiderman

quote:
Originally posted by rotweiler
Amazing.... absolutely amazing! - How the newbies fawn and genuflect everytime a Centropy release comes out - even a really bad one like this.

Before I am accused of matricide....read on. There is an SVCD standard. This release by Centropy is NOT to that standard and is therefore NOT playable on a majority of the dvd machines out there.

Now, you CAN continue to praise (usually from peeps who have only seen the sample jpegs; or you can send Centropy and other groups a message:

Your work is good; it is appreciated. But if you continue to release movies that very few can play, even the newbies will pass on your releases.

The one, the only, Rotweiler



finally someone with intelligence. i couldnt agree more rotweiler, i hate all these people who tounge centropys balls everytime they release something. and why all of sudden is ctp making svcds? the releases arent good enough to be svcds, and stupid newbies on this forum only see the jpgs, and think its amazing.


Posted by Cubbs on 05-05-2002 05:48 AM:

The more i read, the more it sounds like i'll be doing a reencode to 2 VCDs. Anyone interested? :P


Posted by skunkyhydro on 05-05-2002 05:51 AM:

i love how ctp mislables a workprint to a TS. Kinda sad really, but hey, all you lamers dont seem to mind. who really cares about spiderman anyway?


Posted by moviebootlegger on 05-05-2002 05:56 AM:

GGOD DAMMIT WHY THE HELL IS THIS SHIT A SVCD. WTF. IT AINT NO DVD RIP. WHATS THE POINT OF RELEASING A BOOTLEG MOVIE IF THE SOURCE IS BOOTLEG QUALITY AS A SVCD. IT BOGGLES MY MIND DAMMIT. WHATS THE POINT OF A HIGHER BITRATE IF THE BITRATE CANT MAKE THE MOVIE BETTER QUALITY. COULDA BEEN A GREAT QUALITY VCD (THAT PLAYS IS ALMOST ALL DVD PLYRS) AND IS ONLY 2 CDS. MAN CENTROPY RLS'S THE BEST QUALITY MOVIES AND ALL PLAY FINE IN MY DVD PLAYER (BUT NOT IN ALL DVDS AS I HEARD). THIS RLS GOTTA GET PROPERED TO A VCD BY SOMEONE. ONCE I GET IT IMA HAVE TO REENCODE CUZ 3 CDS IS A BITCH.

ALL IN ALL CENTROPY A GREAT RLS GROUP, EXCUSE ME I MEAN ONE OF THE BEST RLS GROUPS, BUT THEY GOTTA GET THEIR ENCODING 2GETHER HERE CUZ THERE IS NO NEED FOR A SVCD RLS HERE. U NEWBIES CANNOT JUDGE JPEGS U GOTTA C THE REEL SAMPLE TO CHECK HOW THE QUALITY IS. I DONT GOT THIS YET BUT I GOT THE CAM RLS TEG. ITS PRETTY GOOD. I WANNA C WHAT THEY DID WITH THIS ONE. AIGHT IM OUTZ HOLLA ;-)


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