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Posted by **TheWhiz**02 on 05-15-2002 06:13 AM:

I prefer svcd's I just need one for for my collection star wars 2!

aight tnx guy u guys are the kings and this a very sexy movie!

9/9

Posted by eric on 05-15-2002 07:23 AM:

if you sit here and whine about svcds your player obviously doesnt play then so instead of sitting here bitching about that, actually say like can you make a few vcds instead of saying im getting sick of this svcd bs, the svcds are a lot better quality so shut up already

Posted by bambambam on 05-15-2002 10:51 AM:

You guys are talking out of your ass. The SVCD format is making a huge difference in the quality of these TS's. They are encoding from a digital source.

VCD is not a superior format to SVCD and no amount of gay gay gay gay speculation is going to change that. Shut the fuck up and enjoy the absolute best TS's that have ever been captured and released.

Posted by hpv on 05-15-2002 10:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz
i know what you are saying... but if ctp were relying on it looking better on standalones i think they would work on their releases being compliant on more than a handful of peoples standalones

Actually, it's most people's cheap-ass, bullshit DVD players that aren't compliant. SVCD simply isn't supported on many DVD players and while their decoders would likely play it fine, they're too fucking stupid to know where on the disc to look for the files.

People need to stop complaining about this shit, no one really gives a fuck. Go buy a decent Pioneer or an Apex or something and stfu. Since all you bitches obviously aren't paying for your movies, then you ought to have a couple extra bucks left over to buy a 50-60$ DVD player that will work just fine.

Posted by PRINCE on 05-15-2002 11:42 AM:

hpv You took the words rite outta ma mouth.

Posted by hpv on 05-15-2002 11:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bambambam
You guys are talking out of your ass. The SVCD format is making a huge difference in the quality of these TS's. They are encoding from a digital source.

VCD is not a superior format to SVCD and no amount of gay gay gay gay speculation is going to change that. Shut the fuck up and enjoy the absolute best TS's that have ever been captured and released.

SVCD is superior to VCD, but I don't think anyone has said otherwise. As for encoding from a digital source, that doesn't mean shit. That's like the bullshit they give you about "digital quality" picture and sound when trying to sell morons DVD players. Encoding from a RealMedia file is a "digital source", but it still looks like crap. Garbage in, garbage out as they say. So while an SVCD TS might look better than an VCD from the same source, the difference in quality can often be relatively minor. It's like making an SVCD from a standard VHS tape, it's really not going to look that much better than a VCD from the same captured source. So before you get some mad learning on, you really ought to stop talking out of YOUR ass.

You do happen to be right that these people need to stfu up about it, you just don't have enough knowledge to make the argument you are trying to make. Not to mention that without seeing the source capture it's really hard to tell if the quality of an SVCD would really be that much better than an VCD from the same source. Though in this case the SVCD looks pretty good. The end though, does not justify the means. Neither does a good point justify the uneducated rhetoric fronted to support it.

Posted by AceOvArts on 05-15-2002 12:36 PM:

it all depends if theyre capturing from dv or analogue, standard analogue VHS cam res is 1/2 PAL or VHS, DV is higher res. If from dv then svcd is the best way to put out the capture as it will use more width than vcd. Of course the added bonus of higher bitrate helps too
If you have any doubt about what it all means go here
http://www.vcdhelper.com

now ... back to the movie !
Keep up the great work and SVCD rels Centropy !!!

Posted by huey210 on 05-15-2002 01:37 PM:

SVCD's kick ass!!! Good Job Centropy, and Thank You!

Posted by krazyfoo on 05-15-2002 02:01 PM:

yea i enjoyed that response hpv. i think alot of people feel that way.

i think we should have a lengthy scene test that everyone must pass before making comments here. questions about video quality, scene rules, standards and etc would be asked.. and if u dont know enough to pass.. u prob dont have any business making up long rants like this one

Posted by PepperKorn on 05-15-2002 07:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by krazyfoo
yea i enjoyed that response hpv. i think alot of people feel that way.

i think we should have a lengthy scene test that everyone must pass before making comments here. questions about video quality, scene rules, standards and etc would be asked.. and if u dont know enough to pass.. u prob dont have any business making up long rants like this one

{Crap deleted}

Gonna have to excuse me, left PC logged in, kid brother now tied up and I will have to learn to log out

Posted by krazyfoo on 05-15-2002 07:48 PM:

yes well.. thats great and all.. but how long uve been doing somthing doesnt necesarilly ordain u intelligent on certain matters.. u can be in the scene for years.. and not know shit about much of it.

and lets PLEASE not knock around the word elite.. im just saying.. some people, god knows why, feel the need to speak on subjects they know very little about. so chill out kid.

Posted by hpv on 05-15-2002 08:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PepperKorn

I do apologize if some of us here aren't elite enough for you, you make the scene sound like a gay club which side do I wear my chain if I give or take?

Some of us have been doing this longer than most of you kiddies have been on this earth.

What? Being a moron with a problem of having his head up his ass so far that it's the only thing he can talk out of? Must be a pretty sad life for you if you've been doing that longer than I've been alive...

First question in the "you're to fucking stupid to comment on VCD vs SVCD": name the framerates and resolutions for VCD PAL, NTSC, and NTSCfilm. Extra credit if you can explain why NTSC framerates don't evenly multiply into NTSC's 60hrz refresh.

Posted by krazyfoo on 05-15-2002 09:35 PM:

i actually know most all of that.. haha.. but hey.. u gotta when its ur field in college :P.. learned alot over the years... doing digital-media.. 3d/arts.. a nice feeling getting my 3d work onto a high quality svcd

ill have a stab.. correct me if im wrong

framerate:
Pal: 25fps
NTSC: 29.9fps [but think ntsc has a few options?]
NTSCfilm: 23.. something hehe

resolutions:
NTSC[film too]: 352x240
PAL: 352x288

and ill get back to u w/ the extra credit :P

Posted by tsay2cx on 05-15-2002 09:44 PM:

Isn't this suppose to be about the quality of the movie.. stop arguing about if the TS should be done in SVCDs or VCDs.. There are plenty of other posts about it already ie: Spiderman..

The picture is good, sound is good, movie is so so, since I am not really into this type of movie..

I give it a 8/8/7

Posted by phatbastard on 05-16-2002 12:07 AM:

CTP is KING

Bitch, Bitch, Bitch!!

If ctp whats to release every movie in svcd thats fine by me. Afterall you people, your getting these movies for free. People that are getting stuff for free have no room to bitch about what somebody is doing like ctp. SVCD plays fine in my dvd player and that extra 30 cents for a cd-r isn't exactly breaking the bank. Oh, i almost forgot to mention that the quality of SVCD is so much better than VCD.

Posted by hpv on 05-16-2002 02:03 AM:

NTSC is ~29.976fps
NTSC film is ~23.976fps

An SVCD by standard has to be ~29.976fps but you can use ~23.976fps with a 3:2 pulldown on playback.

Obviously though, people who know what they're talking about don't need to be tested... just the kids who think "digital quality" means something and other such non-sense. ;p

quote:
Originally posted by krazyfoo
i actually know most all of that.. haha.. but hey.. u gotta when its ur field in college :P.. learned alot over the years... doing digital-media.. 3d/arts.. a nice feeling getting my 3d work onto a high quality svcd

ill have a stab.. correct me if im wrong

framerate:
Pal: 25fps
NTSC: 29.9fps [but think ntsc has a few options?]
NTSCfilm: 23.. something hehe

resolutions:
NTSC[film too]: 352x240
PAL: 352x288

and ill get back to u w/ the extra credit :P

Posted by brr8760 on 05-16-2002 06:15 AM:

Whazzup with the BOOM mikes???

I love Centropy. But these boom mikes are really starting to kill my entertainment buzz. With all the care they take to put out the best quality, wouldn't a little cropping go a long ways here?? Obviously, these mikes will be cropped out in the finished product, so why leave them in here?

PLEASE KILL THE BOOM MIKES IN THE FUTURE!

Posted by Rabbit90mph on 05-16-2002 06:39 AM:

Øütrág£ lol

WTG!!!!!!!
Øütrág£ I totaly agree

Posted by napalmfuzz on 05-16-2002 11:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by hpv

Actually, it's most people's cheap-ass, bullshit DVD players that aren't compliant. SVCD simply isn't supported on many DVD players and while their decoders would likely play it fine, they're too fucking stupid to know where on the disc to look for the files.

People need to stop complaining about this shit, no one really gives a fuck. Go buy a decent Pioneer or an Apex or something and stfu. Since all you bitches obviously aren't paying for your movies, then you ought to have a couple extra bucks left over to buy a 50-60$ DVD player that will work just fine.

ok i guess its just cooincidence that my 400 dollar zenith progressive scan plays every other vcd release in the world but centropy... any way... as to this svcd discussion... watch spiderman.. then watch we were soldiers.. its the exact same god damn quality just without the extra fucking disc.. think back to centropys telesync of lord of the rings... same quality as spiderman and on 3 discs at 3 and a half hours.. spiderman 2 hour movie on 3 discs.. its just fucking rediculous.. i can see that most people that are saying how much better svcd makes a telesync are fucking newbies and rookies so i understand that you are full of shit.

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Posted by hpv on 05-16-2002 07:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz

ok i guess its just cooincidence that my 400 dollar zenith progressive scan plays every other vcd release in the world but centropy... any way... as to this svcd discussion... watch spiderman.. then watch we were soldiers.. its the exact same god damn quality just without the extra fucking disc.. think back to centropys telesync of lord of the rings... same quality as spiderman and on 3 discs at 3 and a half hours.. spiderman 2 hour movie on 3 discs.. its just fucking rediculous.. i can see that most people that are saying how much better svcd makes a telesync are fucking newbies and rookies so i understand that you are full of shit.

Actually I could care less about whether it's VCD or SVCD. But your zenith dvd player is a piece of shit if it can't play the Spiderman SVCD. And as you've already made abundantly clear, you have no where near the required knowledge to make a statement on quality. And btw, I never said anything about an SVCD making a TS better than an VCD. You're the moron who implied that.

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