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Posted by XCheMiCal on 06-29-2002 07:51 AM:

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quote:
Originally posted by PhAnToMs
I stand corected sorry for my original post both the video and the audio are from the same SOURCE but it is not a dupe i found this out while comparing the 2 cds the proper accually goes to the credits unlike the teg the teg u miss like the last 15seconds but i would sugest gettin the Esoteric this one much better sound and picture teg must of just encoded wrong


Dude what the hell are you talking about you blind or something they just cut to different credits from a different movie and its even different music Come on and this all happens with in 5seconds. Both Men In Black II *PROPER* ESOTERiC and Men in black II VideoCD are from Teg-Vcd they are just rencoded and anyone that says they are not are dumbasses just look at the end and you will see the same lady putting her bag on her sholder same people walking on the same shots same sound cuts. And I think its so sad that other groups try to get credit for other peoples work by adding some credits from a different movie and change the color and try to fuck oround with the sound. This is really pissing me off they did the same thing with starwars Ep2 like 10 different verisions all from the ftf. its so stupid they should stop wasting people time and get their own shit. Props to Teg-Vcd
without them ESOTERIC and VideoCD wouldn't have MIB2 so sad....


Posted by pHo on 06-29-2002 08:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by XCheMiCal
without them ESOTERIC and VideoCD wouldn't have MIB2 so sad....


how exactly? if this is a dupe of the teg, it probably came from the same cds that teg got theirs from . stop presumin that a group has to REencode someone elses work, there are more than one copies of the source going around.

and VideoCD didn't do a rls of this. VCDistro did.

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Posted by XCheMiCal on 06-29-2002 10:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo


how exactly? if this is a dupe of the teg, it probably came from the same cds that teg got theirs from . stop presumin that a group has to REencode someone elses work, there are more than one copies of the source going around.

and VideoCD didn't do a rls of this. VCDistro did.



Well I wanted to get the bottom of this so I talk to Teg-vcd people and I talk to the guy who did this. And unless the guys from VcdDistro and ESOTERIC sat next to him they rencoded this shit ask Teg-vcd your self they will back up my version of this story. And did you see ESOTERIC Lame attempt of adding credits at the end of MIB2 why would they do that? If not to hide that they stole this from Teg-vcd just look at the end of ESOTERIC version.


Posted by pHo on 06-29-2002 10:28 AM:

im sorry, but if you think it that any members of Teg or Eso or VCDistro were in any theater recording this, you're mistaken. Teg BOUGHT the discs just like Eso and VCDistro did. TEG were the ones who got it out the fastest thats all. different versions of the same discs. nobody downloaded one release and edited it like you're incinuating. take a holiday to malaysia. you'll have a blast

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Posted by brr8760 on 06-29-2002 10:29 AM:

Definite improvement. Slight audio sync issue, nothing major. THANKS ESO!!!!

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Posted by MovieGod on 06-29-2002 10:43 AM:

Yes I back up what Pho said....most of these "groups" that release their movies but "different versions" of the movie... They don't reencode other peoples works, just doesn't happen...

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Posted by XCheMiCal on 06-29-2002 12:23 PM:

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quote:
Originally posted by pHo
im sorry, but if you think it that any members of Teg or Eso or VCDistro were in any theater recording this, you're mistaken. Teg BOUGHT the discs just like Eso and VCDistro did. TEG were the ones who got it out the fastest thats all. different versions of the same discs. nobody downloaded one release and edited it like you're incinuating. take a holiday to malaysia. you'll have a blast



yeah I know thats what happens but thats not what I heard
happen with this release in particular Teg-vcd members told me that one of "their" Providers recorded this him self thats why I brought this up. Like I told you before ask them your self don't take my word for it ask them they will tell you the samething. Thats the only reason I said "without Teg-Vcd VcdDistro nor Eso would have a MIB2". Let me ask you this why would Eso add extra credits at the end of the movie? "from a different movie" and not only that they did such a poor job of tring to pull this off its completly different font in the credits its even has different music it just freezes from the real credits and cuts to this fake ass credits. Just watch the last 40 seconds of Teg-vcd and Eso why would they do this if not to hide the fact that they stole this from Teg-vcd and try to make it seem that they have a different version. I find this so funny and sad and stupid all that the same time. I wouldn't just start saying shit with out facts I looked at the video and talk to Teg-vcd members. I might be wrong but this is my theory and I think I have some pretty good facts and hard evidence to back it up. But anyway everyone has there opinion its all good. thats why we have this form in the first place


Posted by dcm386 on 06-29-2002 07:00 PM:

I can almost guarantee that all of the groups just bought the freaking VCD's on the street and then did re-encodes of them. This movie was available on the streets of London (not even Asia OMG!!) like 2 weeks ago, and It looked the exact same as the TEG release.


Posted by pHo on 06-29-2002 09:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by XCheMiCal
yeah I know thats what happens but thats not what I heard
happen with this release in particular Teg-vcd members told me that one of "their" Providers recorded this him self thats why I brought this up.



and their member also added the asian watermark for fun too i imagine ? heh. it came from a pirate vcd silver from asia, like pretty much all the releasees have for the last month. theres about 3 or 4 groups that do their "own" stuff in the scene at the moment, teg / eso / vcdistro aren't any of em. they all got supplied with discs from asia and put em out in their name. its the most common source of TS at the moment, and hence a lot of mislabing as even the ppl putting them out dont always know ! eso might've even got a print with the credits hashed onto the end, doesn't mean they did it themselves.

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Posted by NIN on 06-30-2002 02:12 AM:

Video is great, Sound SUCKS!!!!! Sounds like Im listening from inside a fishtank.


Posted by Groovie Mann on 06-30-2002 04:09 AM:

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hence a lot of mislabing as even the ppl putting them out dont always know ! eso might've even got a print with the credits hashed onto the end, doesn't mean they did it themselves.


Ahhh, Pho, the ever-present voice of reason.


Posted by renegade on 06-30-2002 07:48 AM:

I found this release watchable. Picture was okay considering it was a cam. Audio on the other hand was not good. Had that hollow sound and hiss of a cam. Unless your a die hard fan of this flick, go to the movies or wait for a better release. If you cant wait then this release is watchable.


Posted by reverend on 06-30-2002 09:38 PM:

As with Minority Report, I found this unwatchable due to the poor sound. I thought the picture was okay. I really hope someone comes up with the goods for MIB II and Minority, although right now I don't feel that there is anyone around to deliver.


Posted by TheHolyOne on 07-01-2002 07:08 PM:

eh, not bad, sound sucks.


Posted by m-drew on 07-01-2002 08:50 PM:

AUDIO is terrible.. Really muddy and hard to understand.
VIDEO is decent.


Posted by m-drew on 07-01-2002 08:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by moviebootlegger
i could settle for the video cuz its ok and not blocky much BUT.....................a fuckin dude makin shadow puppets of somthin on cd 2 killed it. and the audio is out of sync throughout the entire movie . was a very nice pic but damn the dude standing up and the sync probs ruined it. im glad i didnt watch the whole thing i jus skimmed through the 2nd cd.


Shadow Puppets where in the movie was this?


Posted by felix-the-cat on 07-01-2002 09:42 PM:

Ending Credits?

Whats with the ending credits in the MIB2 Proper movie? its not even the correct credits LOL, and at the end ppl where standing up in the theatre? I hop they put out a SVCD of this the picture was GREAT, the sound was So So, a few Scratches, but sure no one realy watches the Credits but atleast put the correct credits, it playes 10 seconds of men in black2 credits then switched to something else...

Just Wondering if the next Movie is not badly edited like the end of this one


Posted by m-drew on 07-02-2002 02:38 AM:

Re: Ending Credits?

quote:
Originally posted by felix-the-cat
Whats with the ending credits in the MIB2 Proper movie? its not even the correct credits LOL, and at the end ppl where standing up in the theatre? I hop they put out a SVCD of this the picture was GREAT, the sound was So So, a few Scratches, but sure no one realy watches the Credits but atleast put the correct credits, it playes 10 seconds of men in black2 credits then switched to something else...

Just Wondering if the next Movie is not badly edited like the end of this one



Just checked that! Whats up with the INCORRECT CREDITS?


Posted by oqwarrior on 07-09-2002 03:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by m-drew


Shadow Puppets where in the movie was this?


33 Minutes and 17 Seconds into disc 2 you can see the shadow of someone's head and their hands.


Posted by oqwarrior on 07-09-2002 03:31 AM:

Re: Ending Credits?

quote:
Originally posted by felix-the-cat
Whats with the ending credits in the MIB2 Proper movie? its not even the correct credits LOL, and at the end ppl where standing up in the theatre? I hop they put out a SVCD of this the picture was GREAT, the sound was So So, a few Scratches, but sure no one realy watches the Credits but atleast put the correct credits, it playes 10 seconds of men in black2 credits then switched to something else...

Just Wondering if the next Movie is not badly edited like the end of this one


I saw that too. My guess is that they are from some war movie, because at the end there was a bunch of text that said things like "We would like to thank the United States Air Force for...." etc.


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