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Originally posted by doctor zoidy
guess the point is, everyone's got their clique, or their adolescent idea of what they want to be, fuck it man, let them do it, they'll hit their twenties and sort it out then. till then, why ya gotta call them fags?

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Originally posted by doctor zoidy
back in the day i wore nailpolish and eyeliner (highschool era), i wore a gas mask to homecoming, had my lunch box handcuffed to my wrist, and generally did most of what i could to differentiate myself from the redneck jock population of my school.

the whole time i had makeup on, i never sucked a cock, never fucked a guy, and generally enjoyed the attention of the crowd (albeit small crowd) of malternative girls....

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Originally posted by Sobaku
a real goth would prolly kick your ass for looking at him/her these kids just get all their "goth" friends and walk around the wall all day.

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I wrote that artical for the kids at that site.
Im usally calm and dont act out against people just cause their a little different. But those kids are taking it way too far.

I know about 2 cool goth kids. Under all the makeup and weird stuff they're pretty cool kids. Judging by what they wear is not always the best. But those kids at that site are just ridiculous.

there was this one kid tho at my school that would wear lots of weird shit. Goggles when it rains and sometimes skirts. Everyday was different, he wore women's clothes and black capes.

I understand standing up for yourself and just wear what you want and not copying the latest music video. But in this side of the world people judge you like mad.

http://www.vampirefreaks.com/gallery02/!CSILLA_ Kopie.jpg

-Thats just freaky



-Thats wrong

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This is a guy? (note the underwear)

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Originally posted by Mr_Grinch
the idiots who walk around with their pants tucked in to their socks, being yanked around by a bulldog look just as bad.

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Why even give these "Goth Kids" thier own category? This is exactly what they want. People to call them "Goth" so then they think they are cool and what not cause they got labled in thier very own social group. If you didn't call them anything to begin with, maybe they wouldn't be dressing the way they are and acting the way they are. I find this whole "Goth" thing stupid. I wanted to try it at one time but it told myself, fuck it, I'm just going to be myself. Shit, "Goth", or "Gothic" how ever you want to say it meant something completly different long ago. If i remeber correctly, its more about good things then bad. Now it has been used to label all these people with mental problems running around in dark clothing and dark makeup, THOSE PRICKS! So it changed the whole meaning completly from something good to something complety horrible. So now when you hear the word Goth or Gothic, you relate it to dark clothing, makeup wearing teens, or devilish things. It so stupid! I dont know the exact orignal meaning of Gothic, but i know it was something GOOD, NOT BAD.

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what's wrong with self-expression? they're not hurting you by dressing "mainstream" as you guys seem to think of the goth style. every crowd has it's stereotypes including people (like me, atleast) who waste too much time on a computer doing illicit things, so why discriminate against one facet when you don't know them beyond their little poses.

also, how far do people have to go with their self-expression before it becomes respectable. true, you're mixmatching your dog's collars and ripped tartans but they were mass produced items to begin with. do the kids who grow cotton and manufacture it get mega kudos for originality?

not trying to offend anyone.. just curious.

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Originally posted by evdubs
what's wrong with self-expression? they're not hurting you by dressing "mainstream" as you guys seem to think of the goth style. every crowd has it's stereotypes including people (like me, atleast) who waste too much time on a computer doing illicit things, so why discriminate against one facet when you don't know them beyond their little poses.

also, how far do people have to go with their self-expression before it becomes respectable. true, you're mixmatching your dog's collars and ripped tartans but they were mass produced items to begin with. do the kids who grow cotton and manufacture it get mega kudos for originality?

not trying to offend anyone.. just curious.

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Oh man do I hate Goth's. If you love hating them like me, then check out "7x14 - Raisins" of South Park. They make fun of Goth's nice and good.

Oh ya and check out what Maddox thinks of them to it's a funny read.

Oh ya there were these faggotity Goth kids at my Highschool, and they skinned and hung a dead squirrell from a tree in the Smoking section, with a letter on it saying you thought Columbine was bad wait till you see UCC.

Needless to say one or all got the fuck beaten out of them. The little bitches.

fuck 'em. If they wanna wear black and fetish gear, let 'em. I like little goth girls. Slightly chubby ones are hot. The fat cunts aren't though. They should die.

Some of those guys are pretty faggy though. To the mentally unstable: Go shoot some and tell them mrlipring said it was ok.

Not really.

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Conclusion

::After bashing gothic kids and reading other people's thought about depressed teenagers. I decided to write a conclusion where I hope to shine some light on these dark souls

After speaking with a "gothic" friend I quickly learnt that she doesnt classify herself as a goth or even "gothic". Which I thought was weird since everyone I know describes goth kids as
kids who are depressed, wear black clothes, and write alot of poetry. My friend I was talking to is all this, but claims shes not "gothic" but infact just herself.

Which leads me to sterotyping. sterotyping to me is when you judge someone before knowing them. You take one look at them and judge them instantly based on:
A. People that looks like them/reminds you of
B. Style of clothing
C. Overall look

When I see a person who wears black clothing, pants and shirt. Have black hair and nailpolish. Thanks to good old TV I categorize
them as goth . Sterotypes start to list in my head.

Goth Sterotypes.(Guide to being Gothic)
1. Depressed.
-usally family problems, ie divorce
-lonely, ie. might feel they are ugly
2. Black Clothing
-its depressing
-makes them look depressed (thats what they want)
3. Poetry
-its easy and anyone can do it
-they can rythm about anything to do with death
4. Suicidal
-Keeps the parents,teachers on their toes
-keeps you guessing, they want attention

Sterotypes are the worst because the goth kids I know are nothing like this. But we live in North America, we have to be "perfect". Sterotypes arent just on goth kids, its for anyone the way you walk,talk, and act. Sterotypes are the worst.
But smart people use it to their advantage. You wear expensive clothing people think highly of you, but then negative sterotypes towards rich kids.
In the movie Catch Me If You Can, the main character dressed like a air lines pilot and stole lots of money and was only 16. He was smart and thought" if I just look like a important person someone is going to cash my cheques."

So wouldnt you want to use sterotypes to your advantage? and not use sterotypes to make people think you are a fag


Why Gothic?

Real depressed kids are really depressed. They usally bottle it up and just keep it to themselves. They dont wear black clothing, they dont listen to music about death and satan. They are normal people. Its normal to be sad and depressed from time to time. Its human.
But "gothic" kids just want everyone to notice, hell they even go out in public like this for everyone to see.

Which makes me believe kids who are "gothic" are not depressed. They just want attention.


But since the sterotypes of them just wanting attention they start to blame their look on other things ::
1. To be Different
2. Not to be a "sheep" and conform
3. The music they listen to influences them

To be Different.
Everyone is different as it is.

Not to be a "sheep" and conform
Does this mean that everyone is buying the same crap? Cause coperate america is telling them what is cool?
Well shouldn't you judge a person on their personality. Not by what they wear? Even a Goth should know that.

The music they listen to influences them
If it influences them then they are just trying to find reasons to be depressed. They look for the smallest things so they can be just like their favorite singers. Same with eminem wannabes, they claim they are from the ghetto and they're tuff. But really we all know they couldnt survive in a real ghetto. And I bet you all gothic kids are afraid of dying.

Gothic kids just want attention.

Conclusion

The kids at vampirefreaks.com are just losers that want attention. They look for any reason to be depressed. anything.

So they think maybe if I look sad and depressed someone will notice me.

The reason they cut themselves and act all suicidal, cause they really want attention.

Ive seen that south park episode, probaly one of the reasons why i am writing so much crap about them. Watch that episode it explains alot.



Its hard explaining why guys might want to look like girls and dress like total fags.

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My friend I was talking to is all this, but claims shes not "gothic" but infact just herself.

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First of all, people need to stop taking Maddox topics and rewording them to sound orignal, second, let people live how they want, you're not one to judge.

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It's obvious that the kids are dressing that way to get noticed.

Whether it's adoration or revulsion they don't care, they just want to stand out.

.....and by your little tirade EViL-EWoK, you fell rignt into their trap.

Yay Goth Kids, Yay!

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Well, personally I like some gothic action on the side Some (And mean only some) of the 'goth' chicks around here are *really* hot. However round here (Ireland) there really is no such thing as being goth as there not much places to shop so people really customise their stuff. I have no problem with how people dress I myself dress what you would call 'hardcore', (think Dillinger Escape Plan, Converge etc, you know the zip top hoodie, the black combats, that cap they seem to always wear, and some, not me though, wear scarves.. If you're from the UK check out the Dillinger Escape Plans' interview in Rock Sound magazine this month to see what I kinda dress like) Anyway enough about me... Back to the 'goths'. Here, anyone under the age of 20 (apparently except for me) has absolutley no idea the name of any true goth bands if you ask them. You will usually get 'fucking MM man!!' or something else to that vein. I nearly attacked the last one I asked that to by screaming at him stuff like "BAUHAUS!! SISTERS OF MERCY!! THE CURE!! YOU FUCKTARD!!" *ahh tiny rant over* But as for hot looks.. If theres black clothing around I'm there..

hahaha the "mm is goth" thing pisses me off. I'm getting really into 80s goth/metal kinda stuff like fields of the nephilim and coven and metal church etc, cos i missed it the first time round, but i'm loving it now. These little bastards probably haven't heard of them though. They need a new name, not goth. At least the nofx type punks these days know the roots of their music, and what punks actually are/were.

Apart from the GC fags. They should die.

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Im an ex-goth though I never got into the white face makeup so heavily and dressed the way I wanted--ie I didnt put on the fashion parade to shock people so much. Was into Sisters of Mercy big time, Fields of Nephlim and other music. Candyman is right the Old School Goths would have kicked these wusses to the curb.

Often times Clinical depression and Goth go hand in hand. "The kids ARENT alright." When I see a kid now dressed Goth, I think They need some damn Prozac or in my case--a truckload of thyroid pills.

I never dated a goth guy when GOth, (Im talking 80s) I found them all to be whiny. Im sorry but women dont like men who sit around and bawl because they are having a bad hair day. Looks like they have gone even more femmy then the old days.

What is scary to me now is I left goth stuff behind years ago--and seeing people in their THIRTIES WHO DRESS THIS WAY. I havent seen anything more pathetic in my life. I have this EX-friend who is 30 and still wears his freaking black trenchcoat around.

Theres nothing wrong with a black trenchcoat. I have a dressy baise trenchcoat.


Grinch you got me thinking about the slight chubby goth bitches, I just have to say Yummy.

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