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Posted by KillX3 on 11-15-2004 10:57 PM:

nice release 8/8/?

video and sound is nice. overall very nice release

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Posted by firefighter on 11-15-2004 11:53 PM:

Was pretty easy to tell this was stolen.

CD1 rar 2 of VideoCD CAM -
Cammer puts thumb over CAM then while a guy is running down the road and three dogs go into a gate , the Cammer drops the CAM.

CD1 rar 3 of SG18 (cause of gay intro) -
exact same scene , wow the cam drops !

Gay Gay & Gay. People diss grps like POT for not great quality but at least they got their own sources. Even hated FTF didnt steal other groups work.

Stolen/Stolen/?

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Posted by bcool2k on 11-15-2004 11:57 PM:

NUKED: stolen.video.source.from.VideoCD.CAM


for those of u keeping count thats 2 releases by SG 18 both with stolen videocd source files..NOT good for business..i'm wait for a REAL PROPER NOW!!


Posted by Sco0t on 11-16-2004 12:02 AM:

It's nuked for stolen Video from VideoCD.


Posted by JoshNya on 11-16-2004 12:37 AM:

Man how many SWE or NOR sub groups use R1 retail DVDRs downloaded from the scene? How many SVCD and XviD do too? Those aren't nuked for stolen releases?

I say, once it's out, it's public property.

Pirate from a pirate?... why wait for another copy? cause your pride is hurt? LoL

sigh...

Ahh well movie looks retarded, I'll wait for the DVD, but you guys crack me up with this 'Honor Among Thieves' crap.


Posted by crackerjax on 11-16-2004 12:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bcool2k
NUKED: stolen.video.source.from.VideoCD.CAM


for those of u keeping count thats 2 releases by SG 18 both with stolen videocd source files..NOT good for business..i'm wait for a REAL PROPER NOW!!



you might actually be waiting for quite a while ... the video is good enough, regardless of if its stolen or not ... the audio makes the release more than watchable, the next thing might be an internal, and the movie isn't good enough to warrent an internal in my opinion. I'm not saying it's ok to steal other groups stuff, if it was a street silver it would be different ... but it's not, it someone's hard work and time. Shame on you SG-18, let's try harder next time

/end rant

And for those of you that really care ... I'd say about half on this forum do actually have something directly to do with the "scene" ... so piss off.


Posted by HcC on 11-16-2004 02:10 AM:

#1) It's stolen. Unless they just wanted to immitate the first release by the good group because they're trying to learn how to be a group without having ANYTHING. Hasn't anyone learned from this kind of shit ? recodes and muxing do NOT constitute a release and should be nuked asap. These guys have not proven they have their own source yet, in fact they've proven quite the opposite.

#2) Why the fuck are people posting this shit ? I think i'll have to be staff again just to filter out the crap. Seriously, you wanna get rid of lame posts, REMOVE LAME GROUPS. It's a waste of space to have these fuckers name on the site. That space could go towards another 30 pop up ads to fund vcdqs $3,000 an hour heroin addiction, and by vcdq I mean pho, and by heroin addiction I mean horse tranquilizers.

#3) STOP COMPARING SHIT TO OTHER GROUPS. (blah blah blah centropy did better blah blah blah) go fucking cam for centropy then or suck their cocks. Centropy have fucked up more than you obviously know. So next time you wanna compare to a centropy cam stop, and remember the jay leno filter they used.

#4) leigh where the fuck did you go ? you were cute.




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Posted by Anno on 11-16-2004 04:55 AM:

quote:
JoshNya: Man how many SWE or NOR sub groups use R1 retail DVDRs downloaded from the scene? How many SVCD and XviD do too? Those aren't nuked for stolen releases?
I say, once it's out, it's public property.

Pirate from a pirate?... why wait for another copy? cause your pride is hurt? LoL

sigh...

Ahh well movie looks retarded, I'll wait for the DVD, but you guys crack me up with this 'Honor Among Thieves' crap.


Agreed (except the movie aint that bad)


quote:
quote:
crackerjax: I'm not saying it's ok to steal other groups stuff, if it was a street silver it would be different ... but it's not, it someone's hard work and time.


How do you think all the people involved in making these movies feel then??

Heres the important part to remember...
VideoCD and FRA and others still get the respect they deserve when some1 "steels" the source infact they get more respect when it happens tbh. Every1 with a keen interest in the scene are aware when these things happen heep loads of abuse on the said parties so it's not like they get off scot free and we all get to watch a better release "if we choose to" As for the people that get these movies that arn't aware of the whole stolen release thing (i.e p2p users) do you think they care what group (or infact if they know what a release group is) their release is from? i doubt it it very much for the majority of those people anyway.

As for this release 7.5/8/7 even if it is stolen.
Thank you VideoCD and thank you FRA for making this release possible.


Posted by SPS on 11-16-2004 09:21 AM:

god damn...

everyone speaking about "ohh.. VideoCD are taking so hugh risks making their own telesyncs..."

How the hell do u know that? How do u know VideoCD are making their own video captures? Just because they release good quality?

as far as I am concern their Video are made in france or some french speaking state, with an english dts sountrack disc synced on.

Havnt u noticed that the exact same quality has been released by maven and centropy?

VideoCD got a SUPPLIER (whos been supplying maven and centropy aswell) who does its own telesyncs....
And other groups (who release silver) ALSO got a SUPPLIER who make its own telesyncs, or cams (only differens is that that guy are a chinese and dont know much about quality)...

Just telling the facts... (sorry for my bad english)

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Posted by FredPenner on 11-16-2004 11:36 AM:

"getting the rewards"

What rewards are those?

Are you PAYING for these releases?

Perhaps you are talking about the FBI wanting them?

Sounds like a great reward. Where do I sign up?

I would say KUDOS to SG18 for muxing two poor releases into one GOOD one if they admitted it in their NFO file.

It's still a better download than EITHER of the releases it's muxed from.

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Posted by Dodgy Del on 11-16-2004 02:03 PM:

Thumbs down

Think ill give this a miss as i don't like thiefs. lol

Another VOID movie.


quote:
Originally posted by Sco0t
It's nuked for stolen Video from VideoCD.

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Posted by joey_75051 on 11-16-2004 02:13 PM:

POST WAS ERASED


Posted by chocco on 11-16-2004 02:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by garvey100
I can see your point Roger but I just don't agree that's all. Perhaps the fact that sg18 have produced a better version here and also sorted the Saw fiasco before videocd brought out their final 60 secs suggests that they want people to watch the best version possible out there. Nothing to do with getting credit when we already know they have used a mix and match of sources etc. I just want to see the best possible and as quick as possible really, as I would say most people do.

Yeah, I suppose it's sneaky and sly what they do but it could have some good effect eventually in that the groups who are renowned as top quality will have to really check their encodes etc before releasing

Just outta interest, has this been nuked for stolen anywhere yet? Hasn't on my sites. Not sure about nforce as it was down a while ago.



If a group doesn't take the risks why should they get the rewards? Taking someone else's release and then helping yourself to it even if it's fuct up is wrong.. If the group fucks up they should have the opportunity to fix it, not have someone else take their source and release it as their own...


Posted by Redemption198 on 11-16-2004 07:48 PM:

I agree with SPS on this, VideoCD dont take any risks at all, neither did Maven, as its obvious they both have the same supplier and neither actually do the camming themselves.

Didn't you notice how quiet it went for VideoCD when Maven was around, and when was the last Maven TS since VideoCD started again.

I dont care who the supplier is or the source, as all TS's are stolen from cinemas anyway, and VideoCD have no Legal or moral rights over the video.

If you want the best release of this film at the moment, then this is it, end of story.

7/9/7


Posted by cypha79 on 11-16-2004 09:44 PM:

man you people have alot of nerve talking crap about being "stealing" WTF are you doing?



7/7/8



Redemption1980 said it best.


Also what kind of rewards does SG18 get? Brand new dvd player, new PC, some free DVD's? Oh wait NOTHING.


Posted by ASSHOLE :(-- on 11-17-2004 12:23 AM:

i agree this is stolen and the best copy out there. 7/8/8

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Posted by Roger on 11-17-2004 04:47 AM:

Redemption1980


I just wish VideoCD don't read what you just said, because if i were the guy who make those cap, you can be sure i wouldn't want to supply for ass holes like you are.

Bitch.


Posted by cypha79 on 11-17-2004 08:01 AM:

I do believe VideoCD takes some risks but the rest of redemptions post was true.


Posted by Redemption198 on 11-17-2004 08:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Roger
Redemption1980


I just wish VideoCD don't read what you just said, because if i were the guy who make those cap, you can be sure i wouldn't want to supply for ass holes like you are.

Bitch.



Uhhh, now you've hurt my feelings.


Posted by SPS on 11-18-2004 12:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Roger
Redemption1980


I just wish VideoCD don't read what you just said, because if i were the guy who make those cap, you can be sure i wouldn't want to supply for ass holes like you are.

Bitch.



well u are not that guy, and nor will "that guy" supply Redemption in vcdq forum with his cammings...

anyway...

What in his post was wrong?

VideoCD got a supplier just like any other TS group...
Maybe the supplier is a true 'member' of VideoCD, but I doubt that... cause he has sold/given/shared his cammings with other groups (maven, ctp)... Therefor I cant really lick VideoCDs ass saying "Ohh, you make the best TS's!" because all they have done.. is at the time, won the supplier from maven and ctp.

and btw... Nice to see CTP back with a new supplier who only does it for one group...

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