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Posted by porco556 on 04-03-2005 08:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redemption1980
porco556, I agree that CCE is the best way to re-encode a DVD down, and should be used by the groups on all release's. im just finishing off a 9Pass on the Extras Disc of Oldboy, and it looks damn near identical even though it had to be compressed down to about 60% of the original size, something no Transcoder could manage at the quality im used too.

My gripe is people assuming what release will be better without even looking at them first, this looks better, whether CCE was used or not, i personally believe it was though, but i agree this should of been a movie only encode, i love extras myself, but believe movie should be priority.

Thanks for the Info grouch

Oldboy is going to be remade once more BTW. There's going to be an Oldboy coming out as a Hollywood production is 2006

Hehe... I wonder how good that will be. I haven't seen the Korean version yet, so no idea.

As for CCE, it will be around and probably the standard for a long time. However the life of "re-encoding" and these delightful forum threads are reaching their end soon. I was at the grocery store and saw dual layer discs there at 3 for $11.99 (which is actually cheaper than the $8 each they were 6-8 months ago). Right next to the $19.99 DVD players

Soon there will be no more downsampling and we'll all have Food Lion brand DL DVD-Rs and DVD players

The TRUE irony of the above is, I haven't seen DL discs at most electronics stores (Best Buy and Circuit City just started carrying them recently, few computer stores and that's about it), YET at Food Lion, I can pick some up?? They weren't Food Lion brand (Memorex actually), but still funny.

Posted by cloudspear on 04-03-2005 10:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
Oldboy is going to be remade once more BTW. There's going to be an Oldboy coming out as a Hollywood production is 2006 Hehe... I wonder how good that will be. I haven't seen the Korean version yet, so no idea.

As for CCE, it will be around and probably the standard for a long time. However the life of "re-encoding" and these delightful forum threads are reaching their end soon. I was at the grocery store and saw dual layer discs there at 3 for $11.99 (which is actually cheaper than the $8 each they were 6-8 months ago). Right next to the $19.99 DVD players Soon there will be no more downsampling and we'll all have Food Lion brand DL DVD-Rs and DVD players

The TRUE irony of the above is, I haven't seen DL discs at most electronics stores (Best Buy and Circuit City just started carrying them recently, few computer stores and that's about it), YET at Food Lion, I can pick some up?? They weren't Food Lion brand (Memorex actually), but still funny.

but by the time DL dvdr are afforable than blu ray and hd-dvd will be out so hmmm... lol those will not be cheap at first anyway and we will probably end up saying the same thing. can't wait till those hd-dvd are cheap so we could have perfect backup copy. that's the marketing in technolgy. introdution, growth, decline, then gone, time to re introdute something else new to make more money.

Posted by Redemption1980 on 04-03-2005 12:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by porco556
Oldboy is going to be remade once more BTW. There's going to be an Oldboy coming out as a Hollywood production is 2006 Hehe... I wonder how good that will be. I haven't seen the Korean version yet, so no idea.

As for CCE, it will be around and probably the standard for a long time. However the life of "re-encoding" and these delightful forum threads are reaching their end soon. I was at the grocery store and saw dual layer discs there at 3 for $11.99 (which is actually cheaper than the $8 each they were 6-8 months ago). Right next to the $19.99 DVD players Soon there will be no more downsampling and we'll all have Food Lion brand DL DVD-Rs and DVD players

The TRUE irony of the above is, I haven't seen DL discs at most electronics stores (Best Buy and Circuit City just started carrying them recently, few computer stores and that's about it), YET at Food Lion, I can pick some up?? They weren't Food Lion brand (Memorex actually), but still funny.

I haven't got round to watching Oldboy yet, it was a Rental i Got, nearly 14GB of it, but it looks damn good, and i dont see any remake being as good, they never are.

Ive noticed the DL Discs are coming down, i can burn them with the burner im using, but never considered getting one at the prices they are, and no fun in them either, i enjoy stripping/Downsampling the discs, with DVD Remake then CCE, then IFO Edit.

cloudspear, your right about the Marketing of Technology, unfortunately im a total sucker for it all LOL.

Posted by porco556 on 04-03-2005 08:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cloudspear
but by the time DL dvdr are afforable than blu ray and hd-dvd will be out so hmmm... lol those will not be cheap at first anyway and we will probably end up saying the same thing. can't wait till those hd-dvd are cheap so we could have perfect backup copy. that's the marketing in technolgy. introdution, growth, decline, then gone, time to re introdute something else new to make more money.

To both Cloudspear and Redemption1980...

Hehe, the one time I don't mention HD-DVD/Blu-Ray it sneak up on me

Ya, I am looking forward to that too. I'll need to get a new TV too

But I can't wait for 1080p video and TV resolution. But that is going to be so expensive in the first 2-3 years that we'll be here for a while before we (general middle class working stiff [afford is estimated at around $5000 for a 73" 1080p TV]) can afford that.

Bandwidth will also have to increase. Blu-Ray's (if I remember correctly) are going to be 36gig average size (that's only a dual layer too. I believe in quad-layer discs they go up to 108gigs). Imagine the quality though, especially at 36mbit/sec (1920x1080 resolution though, so it is roughly 4x the resolution (720x480) and 4x the current DVD bitrate).

Another problem (which will be a temporary one most likely) is the new protection. That poor Swiss (or was he Swedish? Only read a single article about the guy ~2 years back) that cracked current DVDs is in lots of trouble and the new protection is supposed to be incredible (each frame has a different decode and each decode is much more complex that DVDs).

So, just like DVDs, we'll be buying them for 3-4 years before pirating will actually pick up on them. However, I hope I am wrong as I know I'll be buying the movies I already a) bought on DVD (this includes the Lord of the Rings box and every other expensive box sets

), and b) copied and spent alot of time encoding on DVD.

Posted by Redemption1980 on 04-03-2005 11:35 PM:

I too cant wait, as the quality will be incredible, people i know think DVD is the best you can get, and dont want to invest again, but i have no problems with it.

I too will need a new TV, but things are slow in the UK for Next Gen TV's, but hoping that will change soon enough.

I bought all my Boxset movies on VHS (Indiana Jones, Bond, Star Wars, etc) and then again on DVD, and i will no doubt get them on Blue Ray or HD DVD, people think im mad for saying that, but the quality should be worth it, the HRHD TV rips ive got amaze me, so im very excited about the Next Step.

The Copy Protection sounds a toughy, but everything has been cracked so far, and i dont see this being any different.

Posted by JoshNya on 04-04-2005 04:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cloudspear
that's the marketing in technolgy. introdution, growth, decline, then gone.

Actually the life cycle goes: Development, Introduction, Growth, Maturity, Decline.

But you were close. And yes DVDs are at Maturity, all down hill on its next step. Blu-Ray/HD-DVD are still in Development stages, so the Decline wont be untill Blu-Ray/HD-DVD reaches Growth.

Don't mess with da marketin man

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