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Posted by keepitfree on 05-22-2005 01:48 PM:

Question eehmm eehh?

I like how you say "show almost exactly the same pitch and frequency" almost isent good enough... audios these days are almost identical and made the same way. This is just a Cheap way of claiming something that isent true. We have seen SAOSIN with there claims before.. And they where UNTRUE. So plz spare me/us from this again. NBP is a good group, done many sources and this is the first you blab about being stolen? we`ll all i can say is that this release is fine. Dont see any problems nor do i hear them! SAOSIN should put in some watermarkings in there audios if they are affraid of groups using it, insted of grying out loud as JUSTIN TIMERLAKE......

just my 50 cent.


Posted by Neversoft on 05-22-2005 03:27 PM:

HeartOfStone's "enthusiasm" got him banned ladies and gentlemen, don't make the same mistake!

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Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 05-22-2005 03:32 PM:

Alrighty , its been proven in this thread that this isnt the same picture as SAOSiN's i forgot to mention SAOSiN's TS was also on an angle. Coincidently they both had the exact same cut on the left side , but NBP's copy is about 5 minutes longer then SAOSiN's TS. From the Metro Goldwyn Mayer logo opening scene (Lion), to the DiMENSiON Films logo after the credits.

So if NBP's TC picture is 5 minutes longer, i dont understand how you guys all of a sudden think the audio is stolen. Sure it might sound the same, but the sound has to account for those 5 minutes also. Did NBP magically merge 1 minute of sound onto the beggining and 4 minutes at the end for credits?

keepitfree, i doubt any of these people are from SAOSiN and i doubt that group is targeting NBP. Your post almost quotes TUN's nfo . That whole "JUSTIN TIMERLAKE...... " cry me a river stuff TUN, MoF, METEOR had in their nfos was really dumb , must we be reminded of it again ? , i doubt it gave anyone a laugh.

Final Word:
NBP's TELECiNE is not the same as SAOSiN's TS. Not Only is the picture different as seen in screenshots above , but the audio is also 5 minutes longer then SAOSiN's TS....

.. Lets all get over the accusations and start posting on quality of release again !

EDiT: (this wasnt let past the mod queue before i posted last)

quote:
Originally posted by Rapida
This is a perfectly done TC wearther you like it or not. 9/9/8


NBP's TELECiNE is far from "perfectly" done. Its grainy , the screen shakes, and its missing alot of the screen. Sure ill stick up for groups who get falsley accused when they have original sources. As far as this TC goes , as mentioned it looks more like a TS. Good to see new groups popping up though with good watchable sources so no complaints from me other then this comment on "perfectly done TC with a 9 video rating"


Posted by keepitfree on 05-22-2005 03:43 PM:

"JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE CASE"

IRC_MOVIEFAN

It gave me, among many others a pretty good laugh So its hard not to combine SAOSIN with J.TIMBERLAKE. Sorry if you got offended.

Anywayz, as conclusion for this release.. No it`s NOT SAOSIN video. NOT SAOSIN Audio. Some people just never learn do they?


Posted by Anno on 05-22-2005 05:16 PM:

I too wondered the same thing IRC_Moviefan about the extra little sound.
My conclusion is that they simply were supplied the same audio track with NBP using slightly more of it i guess.

As some seem to doubt that they are the same have a look at this Audio Comparison Which shows you in more deatil of how alike they are. The humm being the big tell tale. I didn't have time/couldn't be bothered to filter out all other audio just to leave the hum so you could see it more clearly but you should get the idea. Actual movie soundtracks can sound very similar from release to release as someone here has already said, but when you have 2 that have an encoded defect (in this case the humm) its very easy to assertain whether they are indeed 1 and the same or not due to the fact humms on releases are never the same frequency twice. (let alone the same for the same movie lol)
The final result i was given was that over a 10 minute period of both releases i was shown a 92.4% match. (the only major difference that was found was a few higher dBs on NBP use of it. (which i'm sure you know means nothing)
Pretty high i think you will have to agree.

Maybe not stolen but certainly looks/sounds the same source.


Posted by pHo on 05-22-2005 05:51 PM:

Its amazing people care so much about such a fucking dreadful film. Everyone involved should be killed. Including Ryan Reynolds, who has stabbed me in the back.

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Posted by s0n0fagun on 05-22-2005 06:02 PM:

7/7/5

Personally, I hope the audio is remotely the same, I don't want to hear Toy Story while watching this.


Posted by Neomic2005 on 05-23-2005 02:02 AM:

This looks alot like SAOSINs release from what I seen in the sample, a stolen source with a re-encode and maybe some editing...

Deffinantly not a Telecine.. Should be nuked for a mislable and stolen source.

Video: 5 (Cropped, and is very grainy also)
Audio: 7.5
Movie: 8

Nice try, NBP... maybe next time.


Posted by mattmatt on 05-25-2005 01:03 PM:

this is a telecine, just not a brilliant one. its goes all the way the end of the credits, a ts would not because you get all the people walking out, lights coming back on etc. and u would probably get busted if u sat there during the credits with a camera because u would no doubt be seen.
even if it was a ts, its not saosin's because this has all the credits and the MGM logo, no angle and more graininess and a reddish tint. it also cant be saosins audio because this has more audio than theirs at the end so maybe just from the same source. the picture also has a slight shake to it.

anyway, as a tc:

video: 6.5 (looks ts standard)

audio: 9 (no complaints)

Movie: 9 - quite liked it

p.s. plz dont critisize me for my statement, im just saying what i think is true!


Posted by IHopeSheChokes on 05-26-2005 06:09 AM:

Cropped, dark, but good sound. I think I'll stick with SAOSiNs release, the colors seem better (dull, but better). Good release nonetheless, nice work NBP.

7/8/8

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