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Posted by _jadakiss on 10-24-2005 11:21 PM:

ah good shit ..


Posted by LOLobo on 10-25-2005 12:06 AM:

WTF is up with this love of thunderous asses and theighs so much?

Usually they have a fugly-ass face as well. (hint-Vida)


Just stop, stop the madness right now.


Posted by P0tZ on 11-11-2005 07:21 PM:

So what about with NTSC to PAL? Can anyone shed some light on that?


Posted by issacnewton on 04-22-2006 11:51 AM:

i just started using a program called ifoedit. it allows to change pal to ntsc without encoding and is done in under 5 minutes.

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Posted by dvd r on 04-23-2006 02:32 AM:

details please..


Posted by pcblue on 04-28-2006 02:13 PM:

thanks very much. very helpful info here.

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Posted by ntscuser on 02-05-2007 02:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by issacnewton
i just started using a program called ifoedit. it allows to change pal to ntsc without encoding and is done in under 5 minutes.
All it does is change the file header to "fool" the machine into thinking it's playing NTSC instead of PAL. It doesn't work with all brands of DVD player, we've tried it. Also, the results are not nearly as good as the DG Pulldown method which I use quite often.


Posted by Riao on 02-27-2007 08:19 PM:

I usually use the following script for PAL to NTSC conversions and don't get any stuttering video that I notice (I use CCE):

quote:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\LeakKernelDeint.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\TomsMoComp.dll")
MPEG2Source("C:\Path\myFile.d2v")
leakkernelbob(order=1,threshold=4)
changefps(60000,1001)
assumetff()
separatefields()
selectevery(4,0,3)
weave()
TomsMoComp(1,5,1)
Undot()
mergechroma(blur(1.3))
lanczosresize(720,480)


The smoothing filter is a personal preference. It gives me more satisfying results when doing major surgery to an otherwise clean video source. (Found that while working with GKnot. )

I look forward to trying your method here though. It just so happens that I have a couple of PAL DVDs lying around...


Posted by bratt31999 on 04-03-2007 08:04 PM:

I have used CONVERTXTODVD and it will convert just about any format into your choice of PAL or NTSC all you have to do is choose which format you want to convert to in the settings and depending on the length of the movie it authors it in within a a hour or so. Convertxtodvd also will allow you to encode several files at once for example if a movie was cut in 2 or 3 parts it will convert it into one dvd without having to merge the files. You also have your choice of advanced options as to output size, fps etc....

Here is a link to their site for your reading pleasure:
http://***.vso-software.fr/products/convert_x_to_dvd/


Posted by DannnyRuel on 07-23-2007 03:26 PM:

Choppy Video and distorted audio

Can someone please give me some suggestions on how to properly convert xvid files to dvd files so they will play smoothly. Ive had a problem with The Hitcher 2006, Fantastic 4 rise of the silver surfer, Mr. Brooks. When I converted the Xvid files to dvd the video looked like everyone had robotic movements. I took the fantastic 4 silver surfer and encoded it at 25 fps and resized the video to 720x480 , then I converted the encoded file with the resized video to dvd , and this seemed to fix the problem , but only after 4 tries. 3 times the dvd froze and the audio was not in sync with the video. The 4th time I tried it it worked. Im having the exact same problem with Mr Brooks. Can someone give me some sugesstions on how to convert without these problems? Software suggestions?


Posted by ntscuser on 08-19-2007 09:42 PM:

Re: Choppy Video and distorted audio

quote:
Originally posted by DannnyRuel
Can someone please give me some suggestions on how to properly convert xvid files to dvd files so they will play smoothly. Ive had a problem with The Hitcher 2006, Fantastic 4 rise of the silver surfer, Mr. Brooks. When I converted the Xvid files to dvd the video looked like everyone had robotic movements.
That's a problem with a lot of XviDs and one of the reasons I no longer bother with them.
quote:
Originally posted by DannnyRuel
I took the fantastic 4 silver surfer and encoded it at 25 fps and resized the video to 720x480 , then I converted the encoded file with the resized video to dvd , and this seemed to fix the problem , but only after 4 tries. 3 times the dvd froze and the audio was not in sync with the video.
That's hardly surprising as 720x480x25fps is not a "legal" size for DVD.

quote:
Originally posted by DannnyRuel
The 4th time I tried it it worked. Im having the exact same problem with Mr Brooks. Can someone give me some sugesstions on how to convert without these problems? Software suggestions?
Are we still talking about converting PAL to NTSC? As a rule I have not found that converting an XviD to DVD solves any playback problems.


Posted by yukichigai on 11-12-2007 03:31 PM:

For the sake of completeness, I gotta add this.

I'd just like to point out that for some 25 fps sources, particularly R5s, that the video is in fact sped up, and thus the audio is what I term "lightly chipmunked". An easy way to tell (for non-cam-based sources anyway) is to compare the runtime of the file(s) you have with the runtime listed at IMDb. If the video runtime is shorter than the IMDb runtime, it's probably been sped up.*

If that's the case then you probably want to slow the movie down rather than do the conversion method described in the first post. The process is roughly similar: load the file up in DGIndex, then save a D2V file. You'll then want to make an AviSynth file nearly identical to the previous one, but with one minor addition:

quote:
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Avisynth 2.5\Plugins\DGDecode.dll")
MPEG2Source("C:\Path\to\myFile.d2v")
LanczosResize(720,480)
AssumeFPS(23.976)


Encode your video with whatever. (TMPGEnc, Nero, DIKO, what have you)

For the audio, the easiest option will be to use a program called BeSweet. It comes with a GUI which, while ugly as crap, has a nice little dropdown option for "PAL -> NTSC film conversion". Select the audio file (probably an AC3) and encode to either AC3 or MP2. (BeSweet-made AC3 audio doesn't work in some DVD players, though it DOES work in all DVD-capable game consoles)

For the rest, just follow the remaining process from the original post.

Enjoy.


*If you want to be really sure that you're dealing with a sped up movie, take the IMDb-listed runtime in minutes, divide by 25, then multiply by 23.976. If the number you get is suspiciously close to the runtime of the file(s) you have, your 25fps source is really a sped up 23.976fps source.


Posted by ZootedLooter on 12-03-2007 10:20 PM:

i cant believe all this time has gone by with all this demand that a conversion app hasnt been developed yet that leaves all the menues and features intact

but for now i will just use vob2mpg to make a compliant mpg and then let svcd2dvd convert it for me(pulldown method used).

..easy enough for a proven dong like me

::edit...if ifo edit is used will it fuck up the playback in a player that plays pal and ntsc?

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Posted by ntscuser on 12-04-2007 12:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ZootedLooter
::edit...if ifo edit is used will it fuck up the playback in a player that plays pal and ntsc?
Hard to say. We took a home made DVD of Dr Who and used the ifo patch method to convert from PAL to NTSC. Some players responded favourably, some didn't. IIRC, JVC and Panasonics wanted nothing to do with the patch and tried to play the DVD as PAL or not at all in the case of NTSC playback-only machines. The only way to tell for certain is to try it and see.

At this point somebody usually intervenes to tell me I've "never ripped a DVD in my life" and "he knows for a fact the ifo patch method will work on any machine in the world", even though he hasn't actually tried it yet


Posted by koby66 on 06-29-2008 08:57 PM:

Re: Easy PAL -> NTSC conversion...solution inside

quote:
Originally posted by hoozdapimp
I know I've seen many threads on here asking how to convert from PAL to NTSC...I recently came across a very easy solution.

A typical workflow is as follows (assumes you are starting with PAL source material):

  • Demux the video and audio streams.
  • If the video is interlaced, deinterlace it to make it progressive. If it is already progressive, skip this step.
  • Resize the video to 720x480.
  • Encode the video to MPEG2 at 25fps progressive.
  • Run DGPulldown on the video MPEG2 stream to flag it up to 29.97fps (using the 25fps --> 29.97fps conversion).
  • Mux the audio and video into a program stream, or author a DVD using the audio and video streams.


Here is how I currently do this:
1) Run mpg/vob sete through DGIndex (this process usually takes about 1-2 minutes).
To do this open the file(s) with DGIndex and press F4, and choose the file to save it to. This will create a d2v file which you will use in step 2, and the demuxed audio file, which you will use in step 4).

2) Using whatever encoder you want to, re-encode the video size to 720x480 (note, make sure you do not change the frame rate). When using CCE or TMPGEnc, you can use the simple avisynth script such as:

Note: Make sure you replace the paths to correctly indicate where on your system your DGDecode.dll file is, and where you saved your d2v file to in step 1.

3) Once the video has been encoded, run the resized video file through DGPulldown and for the check the 25->29.97 box. DGPulldown can be downloaded here

4) Reauthor with original audio (which is extracted in step 1 using DGIndex), and the new video.

The advantages to this are:

  • The video frame rate does not have to change. This is the hardest part for these types of conversions, because it is what results in the video playing back jerky, or having a ghost effect.
  • The audio no longer has to be re-encoded to 29.97 or 23.97 fps, thus elminating any synch issues.


Enjoy!




Maybe 5 years ago!!!!!!

If anyone go's through all this
trouble for PAL -> NTSC....
then you should not even be
in here,because you are Cluless!!!!!


Posted by Avenue_1 on 06-29-2008 10:03 PM:

Re: Re: Easy PAL -> NTSC conversion...solution inside

quote:
Originally posted by koby66
Maybe 5 years ago!!!!!!

If anyone go's through all this
trouble for PAL -> NTSC....
then you should not even be
in here,because you are Cluless!!!!!



You are so fucking stupid i can't even be bothered flaming you.

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Posted by fabiok69 on 08-06-2008 02:54 AM:

thank-you for the info it was real helpfull
have a great day.....................


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