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Posted by pvt_klaas on 08-02-2005 02:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ManifestDestiny
8/8/?

judging by the sample, the quality is pretty nice for a tc

ermmm, how can you say THAT? It looks like a good TS. Think it is made with one of those cheap TC-machines. The ones where you use a camcorder to film the filmrols...They can can be found for $300-1000.
Anyway...
Video bit blurry, audio is fine for me but the movie itself sucked...
Condsidering this is labeled TC and that this group is new in th scene (wich I admire)

7/7,5/4

Keep up the good work, owja spend some time in a nice Nfo and logo

Posted by Airhead on 08-02-2005 03:04 PM:

meh ...

previous TS the left side was missing as mentioned, the TC the top half is missing ... way overcropped.

Also as mentioned by others this copy is hella blurry compaired to their TS. Most noticeable when you compair the opening words and credits to their TS. I thought TC's were suppost to be crisp ..

TS - Missing left side , dark scenes are hella dark
8/8/4

TC - Overcropped , more blurry and grainy then their TS
6/8/4

So funny to watch people jump group to group saying "PRODiGY is my new favorite group" . Till next week when another new group downloads from torrent and sync's direct english audio

Props to PRODiGY for fast watchable copys , but i think the TC was rushed and could have been encoded way better.

Posted by Boggle on 08-02-2005 03:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by fluffinator
open your eyes, this is a TC, and there is nothing picture wise to lead anyone to assume otherwise.

7/7/?

Video is a tad bit grainy and washed out, leaving a faint blurr effect.

Sound could be cleaned up TS audio, can't really tell, fits the release, didn't notice any sync issues.

Really, the only issue I had with this release was.

IT'S FUCKING PAL!!!!!!!

God fucking damnit. Really, I can deal with only watching this crispy TC on my tv-out, but for the love of god groups, PUT INFO IN YOUR NFO!

WTF is a point to an "nfo" which is supposedly stating encode settings, release qualirt settings, etc, if you aren't gonna tell people it's PAL!

It's a great release none-tha-less. But for all you saps that wasted blank discs and couldn't figure out why it either doesn't play, or plays all chopped to hell and outta sync on your stand alone, theres your answer.

I'm amazed no one else caught the fact that it's PAL. One can only assume the xvid will be from a PAL source.

And whats wrong with PAL you keep on saying it like it is a disease!.
Stop moaning about PAL you sound like a broken record

Posted by iamjoepesci on 08-02-2005 04:59 PM:

8/9/??

this group is moving up quick.good job guys

Posted by Shrek Nation on 08-02-2005 06:29 PM:

8/8/1

Worst fucking movie I've seen in a while.

Posted by geoffbob30 on 08-02-2005 07:02 PM:

very nice quality film is still shit

v\8
a\8
m\3

Posted by yyiryyib on 08-02-2005 07:15 PM:

silly american thinking NTSC is the only format. there is a whole world out there

anyways, nice looking, i'll wait for the TC DVDR before i get the whole thing

8/8/7

Posted by chuxterofdoom on 08-02-2005 07:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yyiryyib
silly american thinking NTSC is the only format. there is a whole world out there

anyways, nice looking, i'll wait for the TC DVDR before i get the whole thing

8/8/7

He never said every release should be ntsc. In fact, he said he doesn't mind what format it's in but that they would at least put what format it is, ntsc or pal, in the nfo. I agree with this. Who likes burning a couple of cds or dvd just to find out it won't play on your stand alone. And no not most tvs or dvd players convert to either format. I have 10 dvd players all different brands and models and only one does that.

Posted by pjfan281 on 08-02-2005 08:08 PM:

quote:

I'm amazed no one else caught the fact that it's PAL. One can only assume the xvid will be from a PAL source. [/B]

i'm amazed you dont realize every major release now is pal. wise up

Posted by fluffinator on 08-02-2005 09:09 PM:

umm, firstly, not all major releases are PAL, alot of the ones coming from Russian sources are.

Secondly. I'm not complaining that it's PAL, i'm complaining that they fail to mention in the NFO it's PAL.

PAL is higher quality than NTSC by default. Higher framerate and picture quality.

The problem being, PAL, played thru an NTSC dvd player produces CRAP. There are several methods for converting, such as patching the ifo, or actually re-encoding with a lower framerate.
Some NTSC dvd players apply the "patch" method by default, as does mine. Trying to watch a nice release like this that way just kills the release.

Don't believe me, check out vcdhelp and search "pal to ntsc"

Both methods produce a jerky picture that lags every few frames, or skips, however you look at it.

As for the genius posts flaming me, go back and READ my post. I'd prefer PAL if I WAS INFORMED thru the NFO.

quote:
God fucking damnit. Really, I can deal with only watching this crispy TC on my tv-out, but for the love of god groups, PUT INFO IN YOUR NFO!

Feel free to READ the post before you all jump on the flame bandwagon.

It's a fairly good release, a little bit blurred but I didn't notice any ghosting in the few action scenes I checked.

oh, and yyiryyib learn to read... it says CANADA under my location.

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Posted by pyroshady on 08-03-2005 12:00 AM:

Lol go get em fluffy lol.
Ight after watching this wholerls on my pc.
Video - 8 (I dled both tc and ts and I'd perfer the tc)
Audio - 6 (a bit low sounded like mono)
Movie - 7 (Wasnt the worst movie of all time , But not the best niether)

Posted by Kzbd on 08-03-2005 01:03 AM:

Kick ass it's so good to see a group releasing rips and TC's of current movies. GOD BLESS PRODIGY. I want to have deep meaningful sex with all of you too, starting with your members who are large breasted hot chics.

Posted by pvt_klaas on 08-03-2005 01:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by yyiryyib
silly american thinking NTSC is the only format. there is a whole world out there

anyways, nice looking, i'll wait for the TC DVDR before i get the whole thing

8/8/7

Yeah, I agree. America has had his time. Most Major release come from European or Russian Sources. Even the great centropy used french sources.

Posted by garvey100 on 08-03-2005 04:10 AM:

Saw the telesync and loved the quality

Thought the film was one of the worst to pass my eyes in a long long while.....if you are talking cheese, then this is pure over ripe camembert

TC is a little better.......what you gotta question is whether this film was worth 2 quick releases, top quality though they may be...

Respect due to the group, hope you can keep em coming

8/8/-5

Posted by ou812 on 08-03-2005 04:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cactus-jack
pretty good movie. this looks to b 2.35 instead of the 1.85 other release

8
8
8

its 2.35 because its bad AR, I recoded it and took off 25 pixels from both top and bottom and brought it back to 1.85. Now it looks alot better

Posted by Doomsdayer on 08-03-2005 07:03 AM:

8/8/7 - I went in watching this movie thinking I wouldn't enjoy, cuz of the reviews it got from critics and the preview made it look like it was all about special effects, which only get a movie so far... but this movie was actually pretty good...not great, but good.

Posted by TMM on 08-03-2005 07:24 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pvt_klaas
Yeah, I agree. America has had his time. Most Major release come from European or Russian Sources. Even the great centropy used french sources.

PAL being 25 FPS closest framerate to actual film produces a way better quality picture than NTSC ever would.. and as for ctp, they used french CANADIAN sources im pretty certain. It's not nice to bitch about FREE releases.

Posted by Hairyhamster on 08-03-2005 08:56 AM:

imo this isnt as good as the ts..... as already stated its very blured, audio is good though... nice try but a little bit more time spent, and probly a better capture device wouldve been top notch !

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Posted by [Admiral] on 08-03-2005 09:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by fluffinator
umm, firstly, not all major releases are PAL, alot of the ones coming from Russian sources are.

Secondly. I'm not complaining that it's PAL, i'm complaining that they fail to mention in the NFO it's PAL.

PAL is higher quality than NTSC by default. Higher framerate and picture quality.

The problem being, PAL, played thru an NTSC dvd player produces CRAP. There are several methods for converting, such as patching the ifo, or actually re-encoding with a lower framerate.
Some NTSC dvd players apply the "patch" method by default, as does mine. Trying to watch a nice release like this that way just kills the release.

Don't believe me, check out vcdhelp and search "pal to ntsc"

Both methods produce a jerky picture that lags every few frames, or skips, however you look at it.

As for the genius posts flaming me, go back and READ my post. I'd prefer PAL if I WAS INFORMED thru the NFO.

Feel free to READ the post before you all jump on the flame bandwagon.

It's a fairly good release, a little bit blurred but I didn't notice any ghosting in the few action scenes I checked.

oh, and yyiryyib learn to read... it says CANADA under my location.

um. there are more methods for converting pal to ntsc than those two.
if you want a fairly 'newbie friendly' method go grab canopus procoder2.
works real good.
or learn how to use avisynth + cce.

as for the movie, nice release especially in the current dry spell. not gonna bother watching it all though.

Posted by jebling on 08-03-2005 09:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ou812
its 2.35 because its bad AR, I recoded it and took off 25 pixels from both top and bottom and brought it back to 1.85. Now it looks alot better

sorry to disagree with you this release does not have a bad aspect ratio. the group released the movie correctly, with an original theatrical release aspect ratio of 2.35...

United States, 2005
U.S. Release Date: 7/29/05 (wide)
Running Length: 2:00
MPAA Classification: PG-13 (Violence)
Theatrical Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1
Cast: Josh Lucas, Jessica Biel, Jamie Foxx, Sam Shepard, Richard Roxburgh, Joe Morton
Director: Rob Cohen
Producers: Mike Medavoy, Arnold Messer, Neal Moritz, Laura Ziskin
Screenplay: W.D. Richter
Cinematography: Dean Semler
Music: Trevor Morris
U.S. Distributor: Columbia Pictures

http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/s/stealth.html

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a:8
m:7

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