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Posted by creamfan on 09-15-2005 12:54 PM:

Is this the sequel to Final Fantasy: Spirits Within???

::EDIT:: No, it's the sequel to the Playstation game: FF VII (honest!) - NS::

Posted by Vorph on 09-15-2005 06:42 PM:

Bien's video was average at best, and the audio wasn't bad for 2ch crap. The scene rules really ruined this release, no doubt about it.

Definitely go with the 2CD internal xvid or one of the dvd-r's if you really want to see this movie in all its glory.

The movie itself was excellent from a technical standpoint, which makes me really bitter that it will not be shown in US theaters. The story itself was so-so; it is far too focused on Cloud and his annoying emo-kid personality, some of the fights drag on for too long, and the music doesn't alway fit the scene and changes from eletric guitar to operatic to classical at the drop of a hat for some unknown reason. None of that matters though, if the question is "should I watch this?" Unless you have no interest at all in CGI, the movie is very impressive and well worth the 4.3GB DL for the dvd-r version.

Posted by chiv on 09-15-2005 09:45 PM:

in regards to the music... each to their own, and all, but i thought the music throughout was no only great, but was perfect for the movie - sometimes it really helped the drive forward the action (ie the freeway sequence) and at other times it helped create a wonderful contrast (like the classical music during the abandoned church fight)

i think it was a great approach to take, by mixing up the music genres and sequences - it makes for quite a unique experience compared to the usual way most films handle music and action, maybe thats why i enjoyed the musical choices so much.

but as i said, everyone has their own preferences i guess

Posted by Vorph on 09-15-2005 09:58 PM:

The music was really good for sure, it's just the transitions that were sometimes awkward, and there was one or two scenes where I remember thinking that the music didn't fit what was happening on-screen.

Posted by Tetsu on 09-16-2005 01:22 PM:

I know that the dvd-r version has better quality but to give this release a 6 for video is just stupid. You are suppose to grade it based on what it is and for an xvid the quality is very superb, it is definatly far better quality than a 6. And as far as the bitching of "why did they make it 700mb" not everyone has a dvd burner me being one of them, but I do have a cd burner and I have made quite a few high quality Ksvcd's and if it werent for people like bien making 700mb movies many people wouldn't be able to enjoy the movies on there TV. anyways, the video is very good and the audio is awesome as well.

9/8/10

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Posted by FrightfoO on 09-17-2005 08:00 AM:

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Originally posted by Sniper1935
Still, for this release it's very nice in some places, just a little fuzzy looking in others which I guess is due to a soft encoding matrix!?

They did use a soft quantization type. It was H263.

Release groups don't normally use soft custom matrices, they either use H263 or MPEG -- H263 being soft/losing detail/smoothing it out and normal MPEG being sharp/keeping detail/blocking.

So really, release groups only have two options on what quant. type they're going to use.

On an interesting note they did use bframes (2). That would've helped massively with compressibility.

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Originally posted by Mean Machine
Film was alright and the animation was amazing, 11 minutes of credits though!

This is a Squaresoft trademark -- longwinded credits. I personally don't mind it, it gives time to reflect/absorb what just happened

Does everyone know that some of the animation is unchanged from the CGI you see in FFVII PSX game? If you think those are good keep in mind it's animation 7-8 years old and what's more it's from a PSX game.

Posted by JKozzy on 09-22-2005 01:27 AM:

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Originally posted by FrightfoO
They did use a soft quantization type. It was H263.

Release groups don't normally use soft custom matrices, they either use H263 or MPEG -- H263 being soft/losing detail/smoothing it out and normal MPEG being sharp/keeping detail/blocking.

So really, release groups only have two options on what quant. type they're going to use.

On an interesting note they did use bframes (2). That would've helped massively with compressibility.

This is a Squaresoft trademark -- longwinded credits. I personally don't mind it, it gives time to reflect/absorb what just happened

Does everyone know that some of the animation is unchanged from the CGI you see in FFVII PSX game? If you think those are good keep in mind it's animation 7-8 years old and what's more it's from a PSX game.

Uh... could you specify what scenes were from the game? There definately weren't any. Some may have been redone, but there were no scenes directly from the PSX game.

Kinda wish there were a seperate AC3 file I could get on my own.. bah. :P

Definately made my expectations -- 9/9/10

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Posted by FrightfoO on 09-22-2005 07:09 AM:

Yes, when it shows Jenova/Mother's head, also the scenes with Sephiroth moving into the fire. If they were "redone" then my bad, they look pretty much the same anyway.

(I've played the game right through a few times, note, but I might have an exaggerated "recollection" of the scenes, since I enjoyed the game quite a lot back n the day)

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Originally posted by JKozzy
Kinda wish there were a seperate AC3 file I could get on my own.. bah. :P

There are rips out which have the AC3 intact (which I might add happens all the time, with every release, other known groups will release a 2CD AC3 version), such as the MiNY version. I watched that one, quality is what you'd expect from an encode with 1650 kbps + for video and the 6CH sound.

ps - I don't know of any special places to get the non-scene-standard-but-brilliant-rips, but they're not difficult to find in easily publically accessible places.

Posted by Seagrass on 09-28-2005 08:19 AM:

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Originally posted by Tetsu
I know that the dvd-r version has better quality but to give this release a 6 for video is just stupid. You are suppose to grade it based on what it is and for an xvid the quality is very superb, it is definatly far better quality than a 6. And as far as the bitching of "why did they make it 700mb" not everyone has a dvd burner me being one of them, but I do have a cd burner and I have made quite a few high quality Ksvcd's and if it werent for people like bien making 700mb movies many people wouldn't be able to enjoy the movies on there TV. anyways, the video is very good and the audio is awesome as well.

9/8/10

Get a dvd burner lamer. I pity the fool who cant afford such a cheap piece of equipment
It is a definete crime to release this movie with such poor video quality.

Posted by magnet on 10-01-2005 07:44 AM:

8/9/5

I dunno why people are rating this movie so high. Yeah it was a lot of fancy CG, but it was just so ridiculous and mediocre. Half of all the fights were in mid-air for crying out loud! I'm not so thick that something like that would normally bother me, but it was just too much.

Posted by JKozzy on 10-03-2005 01:32 AM:

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Originally posted by magnet
8/9/5

I dunno why people are rating this movie so high. Yeah it was a lot of fancy CG, but it was just so ridiculous and mediocre. Half of all the fights were in mid-air for crying out loud! I'm not so thick that something like that would normally bother me, but it was just too much.

Did you play the game? You know, what the movie was based on? If you didn't, your opinion is pretty much nothing.

And are you seriously complaining about realism? Go shove it, it's a movie ffs.

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