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Posted by Iammyself on 07-18-2007 04:47 PM:

crap, i was expecting someone to get a good cap of this film up before now, obviously im wrong, I went to Imax to see this so i can tell its obviously cropped, but the bigger problem for me is the darkness, with this movie, its just unacceptable. The sound was ok, just plain dull though..

I loved this movie, I thought it was the best of the lot so far, based on how fun it was, but side by side against the book, it was possibly more raped than goblet of fire was, but i knew it would be so i didnt complain as much as i did with goblet...

4.5/6/9

Now to finish Deathly Hallows, about 1/2 through, what a, well, different book then id thought itd be!

Posted by RipBlippley on 07-18-2007 06:00 PM:

v3
a5
m7

:: EDGY spoilers removed

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Posted by pjfan0281 on 07-18-2007 06:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by crudman

Yeah, for crappy movies. Because they usually make MORE on dvd sales than the theatre release.

For big hits, they often take 6-8 months or longer. I'm not talking R5 crap.

please, learn to use the search button. if you did you would have found you are very wrong:

harry pottter and the sorcerors stone
cam - 11/14/01
dvd - 02/18/02

harry potter and the chamber of secrets
cam - 11/11/02
dvd - 02/07/03

harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban
cam - 06/04/04
dvd - 09/27/04 (9/25/04 fs)

harry potter and the goblet of fire
cam - 11/19/05
dvd - 02/11/06

notice something? each and every movie, 3 months from cam to dvd source. this includes one other summer release (for the guy who thinks it will be held off until christmas. or maybe he was thinking a retail release? i still bet on october...halloween perhaps

Posted by pjfan0281 on 07-18-2007 06:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Iammyself

Now to finish Deathly Hallows, about 1/2 through, what a, well, different book then id thought itd be!

why not wait a few more days so you wont have to read the real one over again? or maybe you like fanfic....or maybe you convinced yourself that the copy you downloaded is real

Posted by MoNoXiDe on 07-18-2007 10:05 PM:

ehhh....

v-6 Dark and Cropped on the left.

a-6 Not bad.

m-? I've got high hopes.

Release is watchable in my opinion but just barely. Personally I am going to wait for a better release.

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Posted by bernash on 07-18-2007 10:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mailman
I could've dealt with this, but is so badly cropped to the left. Sound is good, they would've been better to steal the French or German video and sync up their audio. I want to watch this, but I'm going to wait. The over left crop did it for me.

V-6
A-7
M-?

well i have been waiting for a person or group to do this, i downloaded the german cd1 for the quality (full screen!) and as usual excelent quality "the groups should take notice" german video is alsways good they don't do CRAP video.

just need a group to join there video with this audio and have a full screen pic with great sound...

the crop of this release is 1/3 of the left is gone and no one has learn't about auto focus yet, turn IT OFF!!! = blurred video

v-2
a-7
m-waiting for a full screen pic

Posted by crudman on 07-18-2007 10:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bernash
well i have been waiting for a person or group to do this, i downloaded the german cd1 for the quality (full screen!) and as usual excelent quality "the groups should take notice" german video is alsways good they don't do CRAP video.

just need a group to join there video with this audio and have a full screen pic with great sound...

Interesting. Easiest way would be just to play them both at once and mute the sound on one. Thanks for the heads up

Posted by yukichigai on 07-19-2007 12:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bernash
well i have been waiting for a person or group to do this, i downloaded the german cd1 for the quality (full screen!) and as usual excelent quality "the groups should take notice" german video is alsways good they don't do CRAP video.

It's the same source. Same left crop, same annoying blur. The only difference is that ViSUAL's video looks worse. I think they did do exactly what you described, except instead of just syncing the audio to the video they edited and recompressed the video. That would explain the massive amounts of macroblocks.

Hey, at least someone can proper for "recompressed video" now.

Posted by Fhwendel on 07-19-2007 01:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by yukichigai
Hey, at least someone can proper for "recompressed video" now.

Harry.Potter.and.The.Order.of.The.Phoenix.DIRFIX.PROPER.TS.XViD-JJxx is already out for more than half a day

Posted by zero129 on 07-19-2007 04:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fhwendel
Harry.Potter.and.The.Order.of.The.Phoenix.DIRFIX.PROPER.TS.XViD-JJxx is already out for more than half a day

Yeah and it's still badly chopped top and bottom, and it has worse audio then the Visual release, but atleast it has the left side and the video is a bit better then the Visual release...
Anyway the is a German release out for a few days now that seems to have the full video and in better quality then the english ones released so far maybe it's the same one Bernash was talking about.
I downloaded but that german one and the Visual release and tried to insert the audio from the Visual release in with the German one but it never works.
I can get it to sync perfect at the start of the movie, but by the time it gets to around 10 minutes into it it starts going out of sync.
Both releases are 25fps but
it still must be that the german release is not really 25fps, as that's the only thing i can think of as to why it would do that.

Posted by BigBadBart on 07-19-2007 04:35 AM:

Harry Potter 5 - Ouch!

Yukichigai - Yeh thanx - I totally get it!!!

V = ? It sucks and I can't be arsed

A = 5 Suprised you rated the 2ch mono so high, I'dve give it 5 at most (but that's running it through 'AKG' Bins so it's more noticeable)

M = 5 Just for being an average sequal, but it's still a good movie and very well made and it demmands a big audience

P.S. check out "Shooter.2007.(25fr-Pal.Xvid+Mp3)(2h00'39).Xvid-Diamond-Tim" (P2P)
If you sus it then we're on the same level and i'll tell you how to Ntsc-2-Pal properly

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Posted by Iammyself on 07-20-2007 04:47 AM:

you who told me the end, you must need to recognize the end doesnt make a book... the substance does... this is 2 anyone who leaked HP7 stuff...

OH FUCKING WELL, YOU DIDNT COVER SPECIFICS!!!

Posted by yukichigai on 07-20-2007 06:05 AM:

Re: Harry Potter 5 - Ouch!

quote:
Originally posted by BigBadBart
A = 5 Suprised you rated the 2ch mono so high, I'dve give it 5 at most (but that's running it through 'AKG' Bins so it's more noticeable)

While it's technically 2 channel as far as the playback is concerned, the audio has been encoded to mp3 joint stereo. J-stereo allows for individual mp3 frames to change between stereo and mono within the same file; so long as you use a decent encoder (LAME works) it will encode a 2ch mono source as mono internally, rather than two identical left and right tracks that waste bandwidth. From a technical standpoint ViSUAL did the right thing on the audio. A few years ago I probably would have rated it lower for being mono, but a few years ago it was way easier to get stereo sound. Nowadays direct audio usually comes from the hearing impaired audio jacks some theaters offer, or from local fm transmissions at drive-ins. Both of those sources are usually downmixed to mono anymore because... well because people tend to record them for piracy purposes. :P

Incidentally, I have since found that german source bernash was talking about. From what I understood of the german nfo it appears to be transcoded from a previous german VCD release.

Let's just back up and examine that again...

The german video source that outdoes this video is transcoded from a VCD. That's how crappy this video is: a resized copy of a resized copy of a cam looks better than what ViSUAL has offered with this release.

Posted by BigBadBart on 07-20-2007 04:56 PM:

Audio stuff

Yukichigai - Yeh thanx - I totally get it!!!

So it's not very good then?

P.S. Lame's pretty good if you can get it to work. Most encoders don't have any problems with newer software, Unfortunately the older programs I use for greater stabillity leaves me stuck with 'Xing' though there's not a lot of difference, but then again I'm not a big fan of Mp3 on movie audio and I think the Vbr root just sucks, besides Fraunhofer only designed Mp3 for Music audio as it's greatest lossey compression feature is to dump about 40% of the audio spectrum thus when used in movie audio a lot of the ambient sounds are lost leaving a reduced volume effect in the higher frequency dialogue spectrum, and most programmers just can't be arsed to fully decompress to .wav to allow better multi track ballance anyway.

Oops now I'm rambling - I think my medication must have worn off - sorry!

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Posted by crudman on 07-21-2007 06:16 PM:

Still no better release than this? I can't bring myself to watch this, its pretty blah from checking a few spots on the cds.

quote:
Originally posted by pjfan0281
why not wait a few more days so you wont have to read the real one over again? or maybe you like fanfic....or maybe you convinced yourself that the copy you downloaded is real

Turns out it WAS real.

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