VCDQuality Forums - raising volume on a dvd

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 11-12-2007 08:57 PM:

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Originally posted by Jay Are

in that case, the person instructed says it worked like a charm.

yeah that forum is a starwars fan site...its definitley our mother....so anyway the reason why it worked for this guy is cause he is not the looter

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 11-12-2007 09:08 PM:

WOO HOO!!!!!

i went with the original plan and went back to the one line command and it worked....i did alittle editing on the part of the new folders and heres the one that worked....nice app mother

"G:\DL Shit\vobdnorm\vobdnorm.exe" "G:\DL Shit\vobdnorm\original\VTS_01_1.VOB" "G:\DL Shit\vobdnorm\fixed\VTS_01_1fix.VOB" 31
worked

thanx your a real mother...
and you too JR...your ok...i dont care what people say

::::::::::::::::::AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHH
HHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mother fucker...the value of 31 is not loud enough....it doesnt seem to have changed....i dont want to lower the other values to meet it cause then the tv will hiss....i checked it with vlc...will the value read different if its on a dvdplayer?

i got worse luck than eddie mush

Posted by LOLobo on 11-13-2007 07:44 AM:

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Originally posted by LOLobo
Don't you need quotes around the commands/paths that have spaces?

Give me some fuckin' credit!

Posted by Mother on 11-13-2007 09:23 AM:

This method will only work if the Dolby Digital decoder recognises and applies dialogue normalisation. All hardware decoders - DVD players or AV receivers - should do. I think PowerDVD does as well, but I'm not sure about VLC.

It also depends on what the original dialnorm value was set to. Most commercial DVDs are 27dB, but some are already set to 31dB. For these, you cannot increase the volume this way.

Posted by Jay Are on 11-13-2007 07:15 PM:

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Originally posted by Mother
This method will only work if the Dolby Digital decoder recognises and applies dialogue normalisation. All hardware decoders - DVD players or AV receivers - should do. I think PowerDVD does as well, but I'm not sure about VLC.

It also depends on what the original dialnorm value was set to. Most commercial DVDs are 27dB, but some are already set to 31dB. For these, you cannot increase the volume this way.

yes, vlc does. sounds like the dialnorm was already set to 31db. wouldn't recommend lowering the others to match, but perhaps adobe can help.

i used audition once to raise the volume on an AVI. worked great and i even took out some background noise (it was a grinding sound, but i'm sure it would work with a hiss too) and normalize the audio by itself before rejoining with the original avi.

worth a shot if all else fails...

ps - glad it finally worked - kinda

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 11-13-2007 10:50 PM:

hmmmm ok lolo credit given even if you read my spot where i notice the quotes are needed ......
but truely thanx for the help

im gonna give this cunt a shot...maybe vlc dont read the dialnorm ...the vob im trying to raise is a tv rrecording...so the dialnorm is only set to what the station put out...im adding it to previous rips i made with a dvd recorder...same channnel...they mustve lowered the volume on the station that day...the other 3 videos are all at the same volume

if that dont work..im gonna upgrade to adobe audition since cool edit changed...and then its square one for the mong

.......to be continued

::::bah...no go....im gonna have to raise it from the ac3 file

Posted by Jay Are on 11-14-2007 02:44 AM:

man if there's one thing i know about CATV, it's that the ppl who own the shows do their own audio; about half actually get it right. daily i would have to explain to old ppl why some channels are louder than others, though i think they were just lonely and confused as to why some channels are louder than others.

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 11-16-2007 01:45 AM:

adobe audition he says.....

i cracked a copy and the cunt doesnt handle ac3....ill load a plugin but i dont trust random people saying heres one i upped on rapidshare...

i wnet on the adobe audition page and searched ac3 and came up with cock

please tell me that you found a good one and you can guide me to it

Posted by Jay Are on 11-16-2007 02:23 AM:

ask and ye shall receive

linky

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Posted by Mother on 11-16-2007 10:03 AM:

You're going to have to re-encode anyway, you may as well work with the uncompressed audio.

Assume it's 2.0 audio as it's recorded off the TV? Should be an easy process:
1. Use PGCDemux to demux the raw audio (AC3) and video (MPEG-2) streams from the DVD.
2. If Audition won't decode AC3, convert to WAV beforehand with Azid, Besweet, whatever.
3. Normalize in Audition, save out new file as WAV.
4. Encode WAV to a new AC3 using Aften.
5. Multiplex new audio with video from step 1 to get your fixed VOBs.

Good luck!

Posted by Jay Are on 11-16-2007 05:27 PM:

jesus titty-fucking christ

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 11-16-2007 10:33 PM:

that guide is for making 5 or 6 ch audio...

quote:
it's possible to create 6 channels that you can then encode to surround sound using AC3, DTS or other 5.1 encoders.

im thinking plugins arent for ac3...just how to prep before converting ......am i wrong?

alternatively with the apps i have installed i can strip the ac3 audio....or use vdubmpeg to extract a wave file....but i cant remux with a wav..convert wav to ac3.. or edit an ac3....

mother...do any of those apps run right off the exe?....i hate installing more shit than the unessisary crap i already have....aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh

Posted by Mother on 11-17-2007 07:18 PM:

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Originally posted by ZootedLooter
that guide is for making 5 or 6 ch audio...

No, it'll work with 2.0 audio (as mentioned above step 1).

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im thinking plugins arent for ac3...just how to prep before converting ......am i wrong?

Not wrong just... incoherent.

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alternatively with the apps i have installed i can strip the ac3 audio....or use vdubmpeg to extract a wave file....but i cant remux with a wav..convert wav to ac3.. or edit an ac3....

mother...do any of those apps run right off the exe?....i hate installing more shit than the unessisary crap i already have....aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh

PgcDemux runs off the exe. Azid and BeSweet don't need installtion, they are both command line apps - but that's no problem now you've mastered VOBDNorm usage! BeSweet has more options and you can also get a GUI for it, but for simple AC3 to WAV conversion Azid will be fine.

Posted by ZootedLooter on 11-17-2007 08:39 PM:

**UPDATE**

ive spent hours on this....(because im stubborn)....i could probably just wait until it comes back on again and rerip it...but im determined...

so last night i started on your guide mother...and i played around with besweet cause i found it on my hd(from my early pal conversions to ntsc)...i used 2 methods to raise volume from ac3 to ac3....and one worked pretty good...but the sync was out after remuxing.....i used ImagoMPEG-Muxer.exe to remux...i noticed the 5 MB file was now 7MB after volume leveling and it started out of sync around a second or so...i also tried converting to wav(it self leveled the volume also)...so i instantly converted back and again was out of sync after remux

so i tried a remux with the original ac3 file...again with ImagoMPEG-Muxer...it gives an error saying that the original ac3 file is not a valid audio file...but like i said.. after volume raising i can remux...hmmm?????...too bad its out of sync

so i started from scratch and i tried this guide
http://forum.videohelp.com/topic317...%20vol%20volume
also a much better volume but still out of sync

....shit stained again

also jay ares guide is not a plugin for audition to handle ac3 files...i would still need a conversion

Posted by Jay Are on 11-22-2007 04:48 PM:

i think i gave you the wrong bookmark in my last post... sorry for the confusion.

With Adobe Audition, what you need to do is dynamics processing.

Select the entire sound file, then go to the effects menu -> amplitude -> dynamics processing. Select the 'classic softknee' preset and click OK.

This runs the file through a filter where the dynamics of the file are adjusted to fit the curve, in this case, making the softer parts louder and vice versa. If you want to strengthen or weaken the effect, you can manually adjust the curve. Don't overdo it though - it can make parts of it sound washy.

linky

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 12-06-2007 03:19 AM:

*UPDATE*

i took another shot....i reinstalled an old canopus procoder...2 i think...and i made a dvd complient mpg and used the loudness filter

THE LOOTER WINS

finafuckinly
thanx for the help and patience guys

Posted by Jay Are on 12-06-2007 03:54 AM:

great success! although i did not help in any way, shape or form, that's not how i choose to remember it.

hell i'm just glad to see another issue resolved.

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