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Posted by takwhori on 11-24-2008 12:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fionn McCool
Yup, and in cash games (which I mostly play) they make their money from the rake. The the random number generator that full tilt uses is independently accredited and is about as close to random as a computer can get at the moment. I consistently make a modest profit playing ring cash games. I'm also studying Math and Physics at Uni so yes, Ekno, I know a little, ty.

So what you're saying is poker card dealt are not totally random?

Posted by takwhori on 11-24-2008 01:53 AM:

OK i won't say any more on my bad beats but

just got 3rd place and had a full house aces and 5's other guy had aces and jacks.

anyway got something back.

cunts

stupid game

Posted by Fionn McCool on 11-24-2008 08:33 AM:

Full Tilt Random Number Generator

This cannot be cracked by some l33t haxor, not in your lifetime. People will use any excuse rather than face up to the fact that they are poor players. I suffer the same bad beats as these players. I'm no Phil Ivey but I play a solid game. I'm a profitable player in cash games and a break even one at tourneys at the moment. Why is it different for me or all the other profitable players playing online poker?

Posted by yoshy on 11-24-2008 10:49 AM:

Kids.............

play smart and you win ;; win more times than you lose............

FFS

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Posted by takwhori on 11-24-2008 12:02 PM:

I'm pretty sure games are not rigged and i'm fairly sure I'm a bit crap at the moment but not as crap as i was 3 months ago.

I've started using Pokeroffice. It looks pretty complicated but has loads of potential. I'm going to play really low limit till i get the hang of it.

It shows opponents cards on river if he calls then mucks. (this is allowed in rules of poker but you would have to go through hand history to see it)

Posted by GrInDi on 11-24-2008 12:57 PM:

the potripper videos are pretty good on you tube i believe, i believe that was done on absoulte poker though, and not party poker, i stick to facebook poker it is free!

Posted by Fionn McCool on 11-28-2008 02:33 PM:

Have been running pretty well in sit and go's for the past few days. Playing 4 tables this morning, connection dies. I was chip leader at 2 of the tables. Its rigged I tell ya.

Posted by steakknife03 on 11-28-2008 02:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fionn McCool
Ultimate bet was the name of the site. Not trying to call you out or anything but I just can't understand how you would know that "every single one is crooked." I play on Full Tilt and I see absolutely no difference whatsoever between the beats on that site and live casino games. Usually the people that complain about internet poker being rigged are losing players.

UB and AP where the two that got caught out there's a 60 minutes show about it this Sunday. I got an email from UB recently letting me know I had been scammed and I got a refund.
Here's the email

As you may be aware, we have recently been engaged in an on-going investigation of allegations of unfair play at UltimateBet. The investigation determined that the cheating scheme was active and fully underway well before we purchased UltimateBet in October 2006. Furthermore, no one implicated in the cheating had ever been an employee of UltimateBet or of Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, UltimateBet's current parent company. Consequently, we have been pursuing claims related to the cheating scandal against the previous owner of UltimateBet, Excapsa Software.

On November 3, 2008, the Ontario Superior Court of Justice approved a settlement of our claims against Excapsa Software. Under the terms of this settlement, Excapsa will pay Blast-Off Ltd., the Tokwiro-controlled company that originally acquired UltimateBet an amount of US$15 million. We intend to apply this settlement to the final round of refunds to customers who were victims of the cheating scheme. This favorable outcome before the courts validates our claims against UltimateBet's previous ownership with respect to the cheating scandal. We are very pleased with this outcome that benefits both our customers and our company.

Our investigation has concluded that your account XXXXXXX was victimized by the cheater. This account has been refunded for any losses against accounts associated with unfair play.

"Net loss" is the sum of the money that you lost to the accounts in question minus the sum of the money you won from them. On this basis, we have calculated that you are entitled to a refund in the amount of $XXXXX. If you have any questions about the refund process, please write to us at [email protected] or call (1.888.200.2933).

We want to express to you our sincere gratitude for your patience, loyalty, support, and your understanding that Tokwiro has acted, and continues to do everything it can to correct this situation. We also want to reiterate Tokwiro's and UltimateBet's commitment to providing a safe and secure environment for our players and our unwavering resolve to monitor our site security with every resource at our disposal.

Since the cheating was exposed in early 2008, we have worked tirelessly to understand what happened and how it happened; to ensure that it could never happen again; to refund our customers for their illegitimate losses at UltimateBet; and to pursue our claims against the former ownership that sold Tokwiro a business that exposed Tokwiro and our customers to illicit activity. With the November 3 Ontario Court decision in our favor, our claims against Excapsa are settled and our refunds to you and to all UltimateBet players who were affected by unfair play will be completed. This concludes our efforts for justice and compensation for Tokwiro and our customers affected by this cheating scandal.

Thank you for your understanding and support.

The UltimateBet Team

Posted by Neversoft on 11-28-2008 05:31 PM:

If you don't want to reveal the exact refund amount, at least give us a clue... Was it a minor rip-off or did the scammers butt-fuck you?

Posted by steakknife03 on 11-28-2008 09:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
If you don't want to reveal the exact refund amount, at least give us a clue... Was it a minor rip-off or did the scammers butt-fuck you?

Minor.. ah fuck it was around a grand but I heard about one guy who got a refund of 250K don't how true that is but he was high roller so probably was. Couple of other lads I know got smaller amount most out of them was 15K. It was more than likely I got done playing pot limit Omaha cash games, but it would leave you wondering did I get done for more. It was a nice suprise as I'm not playing much anymore lost all patience with the game.

Here a link to the story
Link
Link2

Posted by Fionn McCool on 11-29-2008 02:45 PM:

Yep, cheating is possible from within but one or two sites does not implicate the rest. The bigger sites make millions each year. It's not in their interest to cheat. I'm not saying it's impossible but I'd be very surprised if they were.

Posted by David Cameron on 11-30-2008 01:38 AM:

Anyone played in The Nuts Poker league?

The big final was today, guess who won?

My mate Luke.(
From this thread )

Guess who came second?

His dad.

Lol. Out of all those thousands of people who play this around the country and 1st and 2nd place are father and son.

Posted by takwhori on 11-30-2008 08:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cupidstunt
Anyone played in The Nuts Poker league?

The big final was today, guess who won?

My mate Luke.(
From this thread )

Guess who came second?

His dad.

Lol. Out of all those thousands of people who play this around the country and 1st and 2nd place are father and son.

Now maybe if you named dropped Geoge Clooney or Uma Thurma, I might be slightly impessed.

"My mate luke" hasn't got the same gravitas.

Oh and when you come back with witty reply and i don't respond in kind it's not because i can't think of a retort, it's because i can't be arsed.

Posted by steakknife03 on 12-01-2008 07:14 PM:

Here's a link to the full 60 minutes show

Link

Posted by David Cameron on 12-01-2008 08:53 PM:

Got his Bro to send me a pic of them at the final table. The silver fox at the end of the table is Pete, his dad who came second, gotta love that porn star moustache.

Posted by David Cameron on 12-01-2008 08:55 PM:

Asked for a pic of him with his trophy too. You can hardly tell he has a trophy in his hands because it's see through and just magnifies his t-shirt slogan but its definitely there

Posted by David Cameron on 12-01-2008 09:00 PM:

Also. Takwhori. I asked George Clooney for some photo's of him winning a poker tournament but the sad bastard has never won one so I told him he couldn't be my mate anymore.

Twat.

Posted by David Cameron on 12-04-2008 09:54 PM:

Aweww don't they look cute

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