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Posted by Mother on 04-09-2009 07:07 PM:

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Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Fuck a god damn Plasma TV man. Plasma is the way of the past.

You'll be MUCH happier with an LCD Arf.

Plasma is still the best choice for watching movies. LCD is more suitable for regular TV viewing or gaming.

Posted by smurphster on 04-09-2009 09:47 PM:

I dont post very often but have to stick my vote in here...

The biggest problem with viewing tv's in store is that they are NEVER setup right. Go to independent stores - not abig chain like Curry's who have no idea what they are doing with the stock. Independent shops (like Bowers and Wilkins or Phase III or Richer Sounds - all local to me down south but there are similar near you no doubt) know what they are doing - its the ONLY way to get the best viewing conditions. And view normal channels - as FuckMonkey said, you arent going to be watching HD 24/7. Most HD tellys will look the same side by side showing HD content, but a good tv will show normal tv well as well. You can really see the difference between BBC and Dave on sky also - due to difference in bandwidth.

LCD is great at under 42" - but I have yet to see an LCD provide the same picture quality as a Plasma over this size. Anything over 42" deserves a Plasma.

Mentioned above was Pioneer - I have a mate with a 50" 9th gen Kuro - absolutely the best telly around (bar the 60" kuro) but £2500.

I have a Panasonic 32" 720p LCD - £550 from Curry's.

Another mate has Phillips 1080p 32" LCD with Ambilight - £650

We all did our research and got the best for our situation and eyes.

If it were my choice I would say...

If you dont know what you are doing with settings get the best Pana you can for the money. They dont have many settings, pretty much brightness and contrast, but the will give a gorgeous picture straight out of the box.

If you know what you are doing with TV settings get the Phillips - like most telly's its settings NEED to be adjusted by someone who knows what they are doing to get the best picture quality. Once set right for the ambient conditions of the room it will give a picture that surpasses most.

Sorry for the extra long post!

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Posted by Fuckmonkey on 04-09-2009 09:53 PM:

And if you don't know how to configure it/can't find an installer to do it for you, download/rent Digital Video Essentials (HD version as it will work for SD stuff too).

Posted by Weirdman on 04-11-2009 03:02 AM:

LCD and Plasma are both good technologies, and both have their place

Biggest thing to consider when making the decision is where you are putting it, light sources in the room, and what time of day you are going to be predominantly watching it.

Plasma is MUCH better in well lit areas than a LCD. and the opposite is true, in a dark room, any (good) lcd will beat a comparable Plasma.

I install TV's amongst other things, so i have seen many first hand.

For LCD's i reccomend Sony, Samsung (Same stuff as sony, but 3 months later) or Sharp

For Plasma it is Pioneer or Lg.

Never buy an off brand (Vizio Olevia etc) Tv, they are great bang for buck, but if you ever have a problem, including DOA, it is a nightmare to repair/replace etc

Note:if your buying a small one for the bedroom or something, buy the cheapos

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Posted by The CandyMan on 04-11-2009 05:09 AM:

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Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Eventually you'll realize you get what you pay for.

Wow did I say I would buy it or it was even worth the price? Seriously coming from someone who can't even afford to pay attention why do make such stupid fucking remarks?

quote:
Originally posted by Arthur Daily
hummm, well ive not yet seen an LCD that beats a good plasma.
and im sure i aint seen a 50" LCD for under a grand.

50" plasma for under a grand....

And I responded I saw one for $998, a 50" LCD, not whether it was a good buy, what brand (probably shit) or I would buy it. And doing the conversion to both pounds and euros it comes in at 683 pounds or 759 euros. Both under a grand...

Funny thing is no matter how cheap it is, I'm the only one between the two of us that could actually purchase it lol!

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 04-11-2009 05:52 AM:

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Originally posted by The CandyMan
Wow did I say I would buy it or it was even worth the price? Seriously coming from someone who can't even afford to pay attention why do make such stupid fucking remarks?

And I responded I saw one for $998, a 50" LCD, not whether it was a good buy, what brand (probably shit) or I would buy it. And doing the conversion to both pounds and euros it comes in at 683 pounds or 759 euros. Both under a grand...

Funny thing is no matter how cheap it is, I'm the only one between the two of us that could actually purchase it lol!

This coming from the guy that knows NOTHING about the subject, but knows cheap. You spend your money on quantity, not quality.

You posted a responce that said you saw a 50in LCD for under a grand, but didn't provide any info, of course NO one is going to listen to what you had to say.

Since you don't know what your talking about you post a crack and try to be funny, Nice try asshole, post some viable info next time.

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Posted by Bakkoda on 04-11-2009 06:18 AM:

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Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Nice try asshole, post some viable info next time.

Oh fuck the irony right there just blew me away so hard I came twice.

Posted by Darlowad on 04-11-2009 11:51 AM:

Arthur yesterday i got this bad boy from currys LG 50PG3000 for £599

Reviews from avforums are favourable, yes its the "old" model but for that price i couldnt refuse!!!

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Posted by wob on 04-11-2009 01:07 PM:

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Originally posted by Darlowad
Arthur yesterday i got this bad boy from currys LG 50PG3000 for £599

Reviews from avforums are favourable, yes its the "old" model but for that price i couldnt refuse!!!

just out of interest m8 was it hooked up to a high def source??

Posted by Darlowad on 04-11-2009 01:16 PM:

Havent saw it working bought on the back off 000's hours of reading reviews and comparisons

Now Just gotta find somewhere to put my obselite 42" LG lcd

Edit: ok having read your post was google'in to find some links etc for ya and found this tv can now be had 569.99
so i cancelled with currys, reordered with pc world with a £30 discount voucher thats floating around and 4% quidco to boot
so now about £540ish delivered !!!! STINKIN CHEAP!!

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Posted by Arthur Daily on 04-13-2009 02:47 AM:

The one darlowad is talking about is only up to 720p.
I'm looking for 1080p.

Reading your comments here and looking into it all a little deeper,
I'm feeling drawn closer to these samsung led backlit LCD's.

Thing is, I've only seen old gen LCD's up n running
And they suffered badly from motion blurs.
How are these new samsungs for this?

Also how are these large 42"+ lcd's for dead or stuck pixles?

I would hate to shell out for a big fuck off LCD and have a fucked pixle.
I matter how small it is I would be looking at it

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Posted by pHo on 04-13-2009 03:36 AM:

Let's not pretend that LCD is better than plasma, it's blatantly not. A £2,5k Pioneer plasma will still knock the socks off any LCD set. But under a grand, and yes the LCD is going to present you with better options.

Panasonic/Samsung in that price range should give you something tasty. I've had my 720p 50" Sony RP-LCD for about 2 years now and that cost about £700, so you should easily be able to find something damn good now.

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Posted by Arthur Daily on 04-13-2009 04:32 AM:

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Originally posted by pHo
A £2,5k Pioneer plasma will still knock the socks off any LCD set. But under a grand, and yes the LCD is going to present you with better options.

I'm not so sure a out that dude.
Takeing into account screen size and stuff, I would say plasma offers better value for money.

But I'm 90% decided on a LED backlit LCD now.
Now if anyone can find one (42"+) for under a grand...
Better still, that samsung mentioned above (page 1)

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Posted by olskoolfife on 04-13-2009 12:49 PM:

I'm buying one of these
http://astore.amazon.co.uk/phillips...ail/B000WDVTHI/

Posted by monty23 on 04-13-2009 08:10 PM:

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Originally posted by olskoolfife
I'm buying one of these
http://astore.amazon.co.uk/phillips...ail/B000WDVTHI/

Liked the sound of that myself but then read this:

Be aware this is not a real 1080p TV. 1080p inputs are downscaled to 1080i, video processing is done, then the signal is upconverted back to 1080p. This tv does not have the "HD Ready 1080p" label, only "HD Ready". Philips use weasel words to describe it as Full 1080p, and say it can accept 1080p inputs. However, you get clearly visible interlacing artefacts associated with 1080i.
I have to say I was happy with this TV until I started using 1080p inputs - now I feel cheated.

And subsequently this:

This TV does not have the "HD Ready 1080p" logo - check the Philips site direct if you want to see for yourself. Compare the 9632 and 9603 HD Ready logos (they only have the 52" 9632, but the same applies). These logos are the only ones that are recognised as industry standard. The Philips "Full 1080p" logo does not mean anything outside of Philips.
If you find that misleading, then blame Philips - they are the ones clouding the issue.
Also, the 9632 uses the PNX505x processor (http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download...97/75015397.pdf) while the 9603 uses PNX5100 (http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download...97/75016130.pdf). From these spec sheets you can see clearly that the 9632 will never be capable of processing 1080p signals as it only works in the 1080i domain. Compare with the PNX5100, which is full 1080p capable.
Believe me, my setup is fine. If you google around a bit, you will find more on this issue.

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Posted by popabook on 04-13-2009 11:50 PM:

From someone that has recently done some research and purchased a Large LCD Television the better quality Televisions have a large contrast ratio, meaning that the blacks are blacker and the whites are whiter. If you narrow your decision down to a few televisions then start looking at the contrast ratio to make your decision.

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Posted by ZootedLooter on 04-14-2009 04:05 AM:

welcome to the world of unmoderated posts popabook...that one makes 10....took you long enough

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Posted by punzada on 04-14-2009 04:15 AM:

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From someone that has recently done some research and purchased a Large LCD Television the better quality Televisions have a large contrast ratio, meaning that the blacks are blacker and the whites are whiter. If you narrow your decision down to a few televisions then start looking at the contrast ratio to make your decision.

just to expand on this, make sure it has the highest native contrast ratio, and not 'dynamic contrast ratio' as that number is usually blown way out of proportion and is rarely helpful.

Posted by Arthur Daily on 04-14-2009 09:08 AM:

looks like samsung led/lcd have the contrast thing nailed down.

The big ass plasmas, i mean them snazy new Panasonic's are outta my price range right now.
i guess im gonna have to give these lcds another chance...

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Posted by popabook on 04-14-2009 07:54 PM:

Thank you Zoot! My days of being a Lurch are over.

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