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Posted by madd on 05-01-2009 09:38 PM:

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Originally posted by bartleby
That bit is pretty fucking retarded. Corporal punishment ? I think time has proven that's not the right way to go about things, what with all the false arrests and people who've been sent to prison for crimes they didn't commit.

"in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed."

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Posted by Fuckmonkey on 05-01-2009 09:47 PM:

DNA evidence isn't conclusive proof - not enough to enact a death sentence, as is the same with being caught red handed - that's pretty subjective to the person doing the catching.

It's another way of saying "lynch mobs".

Posted by Avenue_1 on 05-01-2009 10:14 PM:

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Originally posted by Fuckmonkey
DNA evidence isn't conclusive proof - not enough to enact a death sentence, as is the same with being caught red handed - that's pretty subjective to the person doing the catching.

It's another way of saying "lynch mobs".

So using your train of thought, everyone is possibly innocent and no ones guilt can ever be proved beyond dispute?

And how is it another way of saying "lynch mobs"?

Posted by bartleby on 05-01-2009 11:26 PM:

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Originally posted by madd
"in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed."

Like fuckmonkey said DNA is'nt conclusive proof , and the DNA bit only applies to Capital punishment. Also whats to stop 15 year old Sally lying about her age and having sex with 20 year old Joe technically making him a Peadophile , does he deserve to die for that ?

Corporal punishment would proberly be for the judge or police to decide and it's fucking barbaric , it does'nt belong in a civalised society. It would also have to be implied to all law... so if a child steals/ Or finds a stolen bicycle he deserves a fucking beating ? In that case why not just let the public take matters into their own hands and deal the "justice" out theirself ?

Like I said their stance on Crime and Punishment is retarded and about 300 years out of date.

Some of thier policies may be good but they're let down by their blatant racist , backward thinking.

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Posted by gezzer on 05-02-2009 12:11 AM:

So we have established that they will turn the police into the Gestapo and do a bit of ethnic cleansing other than that what other policies do they have?

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Posted by David Cameron on 05-02-2009 12:15 AM:

I would 100% agree with a BNP'esque party. Their policies are good, but just looking at their supporters and knowing how politics work, their published policies are watered down versions of what their real ideal is. I didn't read the actual policies, i'm too lazy but i'm betting 'whites only' isn't among them and that is what a lot of their supporters believe in now. Some of you may be old enough to remember 'The National Front', that used to suck in most of the nutters but since the government started arresting people simply for joining that party the closest thing the nutters have available to them is the BNP.

I hate half their members but I still think the party has a legitamate right to exist and any attempt to ban them is proof of how hypocritical the left leaning system we have today is. Socialist Labour party members may be laughed at but they aren't labelled as criminal and no public sector worker is banned from being a member of them and they are equally extreme in their beliefs as the BNP are.

It doesn't really matter what you think now, this country has gone down the pan again, its happened before it will happen again. It was called the Brain Drain last time, dunno what it'll be called this time but sure enough anyone with any intelligence and ambition will flee this fucking country as fast as they can.

Posted by wob on 05-02-2009 01:33 AM:

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Originally posted by Avenue_1
Nope, i think most of us would prefer to kick the illegal and non working immigrants and their "PC" supporters out.

Just out of interest, and this goes for everyone that is seemingly anti-bnp. Which of their policies do you not agree with?

my grandad fought these people in the second world war ffs c18

heres a few of your m8s avenue

big fag sam and johnny and i think that might be you behind the gluebag avenue

Posted by Avenue_1 on 05-02-2009 01:47 AM:

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Originally posted by wob
my grandad fought these people in the second world war ffs c18

Your granda fought C18 in the 2nd world war??? Is that you on the timebond?

Posted by wob on 05-02-2009 01:54 AM:

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Originally posted by Avenue_1
Your granda fought C18 in the 2nd world war??? Is that you on the timebond?

lol evostick..naw my point being c18 ie as you know 18 stands for ah ie adolf hitler,for the life of me i cant understand how anyone who knows how evil and wrong hitler was would even be assosiated with these type of people who have links and look upto adolf

for example the BNP

Posted by Avenue_1 on 05-02-2009 02:07 AM:

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Originally posted by wob
lol evostick..naw my point being c18 ie as you know 18 stands for ah ie adolf hitler,for the life of me i cant understand how anyone who knows how evil and wrong hitler was would even be assosiated with these type of people who have links and look upto adolf for example the BNP

I don't support the BNP.
Don't know that much about them tbh as they aren't an electable party over here (although they're trying to drum up support) ,but the policies i have read are common sense, most of which i would like to see being taken on board by the "mainstream" parties.

Posted by wob on 05-02-2009 02:29 AM:

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Originally posted by Avenue_1
I don't support the BNP.
Don't know that much about them tbh as they aren't an electable party over here (although they're trying to drum up support) ,but the policies i have read are common sense, most of which i would like to see being taken on board by the "mainstream" parties.

ok 1st thing on their webpage is british jobs for british workers...now as a capitalist society(im a socialist btw) if im a boss i will put out my business to tender to get best price.if the winning tender brings over a boat full of itilians that will work cheaper then tough thats business..

2nd.On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

tough WE have been immigrating to other countries also ,the funny thing is most people say that the uk is getting filled with immigrants and they are sick of it BUT they also say they will immigrate outta the uk because of this lmfao ohh the irony

obviously the majority of their policies are easy on the eye they have to be,you look at the manifestos of all parties and id say they are all basically the same..

Posted by David Cameron on 05-02-2009 02:37 AM:

To think of Combat18 as the same as the BNP is just as ignorant as considering all muslims terrorists.

Posted by wob on 05-02-2009 02:51 AM:

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Originally posted by Jingofin
To think of Combat18 as the same as the BNP is just as ignorant as considering all muslims terrorists.

well you go to links section and follow the trail

Posted by gezzer on 05-02-2009 09:05 AM:

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Originally posted by Jingofin

I hate half their members but I still think the party has a legitamate right to exist and any attempt to ban them is proof of how hypocritical the left leaning system we have today is. Socialist Labour party members may be laughed at but they aren't labelled as criminal and no public sector worker is banned from being a member of them and they are equally extreme in their beliefs as the BNP are.

You ain't wrong,I agree completely with not banning any political party, everyone no matter how extreme or lame has a right to air their views,that's how freedom works.As is our right to disagree with someone else's views. In my youth I used to belong to the socialist worker party until I realized what a bunch of head cases they were.

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Posted by Fuckmonkey on 05-02-2009 09:29 AM:

This is true, they're all a bit screwy. Point is BNP work hard to look as if they're normal where the others just get on with their agenda.

The amount of people who have been "expelled" from BNP and the amount of times they have been exposed through undercover filming shows that while they know how to push the buttons of the public they're clearly not "proud" enough to make their entire catalog of ideas known.

I'd go on record as saying I hate what C18 stand for, but I respect them for being honest about what they want and how they'd get it - as such I wouldn't piss on them after I'd set them on fire. BNP however are just too slimy for me to have any respect for them; and that's after we've suffered this god-awful Labour government too!

Posted by wosp on 05-02-2009 12:46 PM:

I think the BNP just say what most British people are thinking.

... and I mean British, not "I have a British passport" and was born here people.

Posted by Fuckmonkey on 05-02-2009 12:57 PM:

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Originally posted by wosp
I think the BNP just say what most British people are thinking.

Of course they do, how else would they get votes. Most British people aren't inclined to kick in the doors of "the darkies down the road" and smack their heads in with baseball bats though.

Posted by bartleby on 05-02-2009 03:43 PM:

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Originally posted by wosp
I think the BNP just say what most British people are thinking.

... and I mean British, not "I have a British passport" and was born here people.

If they have a british passport and were born here , would'nt that make them british ?

Why not just stop beating round the bush and say "whites".

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Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-02-2009 03:47 PM:

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Originally posted by Jingofin

I hate half their members but I still think the party has a legitamate right to exist and any attempt to ban them is proof of how hypocritical the left leaning system we have today is.

Of course they have a right to exist but lol at their supporters and anyone who is convinced by their populist rhetoric and policies on their homepage. Also censorship is equally prevalent on the right.

Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-02-2009 03:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wosp
I think the BNP just say what most British people are thinking.

I doubt you could call 4% of the British electorate "most British people."

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