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Posted by Vtec on 02-04-2003 05:56 AM:

VideoCD's last 2 releases have been pretty good/decent compared to what we usually get from them. The only complaint I have that plagues almost all of their releases is the motion, is it me or does the video always seem jerky (sometimes slightly, sometimes heavily). Let me go into detail, the fast motion scenes seem to have like a blurring/ghosting effect (not too bad in this release) and sometimes slow motion or rough edges look like a poorly interlaced dvd even though the source is vhs (you know who jagged lines thingy). Audio also lacks the BOOM found in other screeners. Other than the usual down points, very nice and early release.. I wish someone can get screeners for every other studio this early besides VideoCD and VCDCentral.

Posted by VonRashniek on 02-04-2003 05:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by phoR20

what a fucking ass fuck...hey dickface, I'll buy u a ticket for a ride in the space shuttle

I'd like to know where the humor is in that statement. I've seen some assinine posts before, but never one like this. Kid your now in charge of the "I'm a total fuck-up group." congrats you ignorant bastard.

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Posted by THING on 02-04-2003 06:05 AM:

i just want to state something the whole movie is not there.. when u guys get it go to the end and u'll c what im talking about

Posted by Jc100 on 02-04-2003 07:54 AM:

You people are fucking retards. Can we ban these folks who get off kazaa and download the smr or tmd reencodes then complain its missing, sucks, doesnt work, and what not. I got the whole release now. I just sampled it quickly, it looks all there to me as the credits roll... No clue what dude is referring to. Pic doesnt look bad. Tomorrow ill burn and watch on my dvd and give full detailed review. SO far though it looks fine.

Posted by flipp0r on 02-04-2003 09:31 AM:

This aint no TC.
This is def a SCR - Ur gonna see Property of CTHE if u actually watch the movie. and is goes black and white like 3 times
The counter is there. Some SCR's do have counters.

Anyway Video was awesome. a litltle on the darkside but def high quality.
Sound was good too.

This movie scared the shit out of me. It was a little predictable at times but it def. owned.
tx VideoCD

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Posted by Ragin on 02-04-2003 09:32 AM:

I just wish these idiots could learn to lable the release right, it's NOT a screener, it's a god damned WORKPRINT!!!!!!!!!

sheeze...the lables are there for a reason boneheads!!!!

Ragin!

Posted by hpv on 02-04-2003 09:39 AM:

Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
I wish videocd would make up there mind on what to label these , telecine one week and screener the next , it is in fact a telecine as this is not what is distributed by the company to the movie stores

First off, fucktard, you don't seem to know what a telecine is. Second, screeners are NOT exclusively used for sending around to movie stores.

Please, come back with a clue next time. Thanks for playing, though.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-04-2003 11:02 AM:

ha ha ha

quote:
Originally posted by OzZyOz
Dude Kazaa is great I just picked this up from SMR its awesome! I got the sample Kazaa has 0-sec shit and if u dun dl from there all ur movie needs are missing! Kazaa rules 10/10 I am dead serious. Now this movie is kew as hell am watching the SMR right now thanx dudez!

You have got to be joking!!! SMR is pure shit, SMR codec isn't even a real codec dude, its a hacked version of the old divx codec, picture is small as hell, when you go to full screen its pure shit, and i used to use kazaa a while back, you can't get half of the releases on it. and 90% of the shit on kazaa is fake. But hell i bet you allready have LOTR:ROTK??? right............ I'm so glad i don't think your serious.

Posted by wesslan on 02-04-2003 11:32 AM:

Nothing is missing u say??
Well imdb has it on
Runtime: USA:123 min / USA:85 min

Not sure what time is correct but in both cases there is something missing. Don´t think they do credits for 9 min do u??

So i´ll definiately wait for another version to be sure.

Posted by zcar on 02-04-2003 12:43 PM:

Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
I wish videocd would make up there mind on what to label these , telecine one week and screener the next , it is in fact a telecine as this is not what is distributed by the company to the movie stores , however the quality is ok, sound is average is it is fairly fast, if only the fags at videocd would label things properly, remember there TS release of moonlight mile , they cut about 40 % of the picture off so they could get rid of the subtitles (trust me i had the original and was dumbfounded when i saw what they did) so all in all videocd lies and only releases to get creds and does anything in there power to do so, however nice release if labeled correctly

how in the hell is this a telecine
it is timecoded therefore it is obviously taken from a promotional copy
a telecine is taken from a reel of the actual film stock via a telecine machine
isnt it great when people chat bubbles about stuff which they are clearly unable to comprehend

Posted by knweedo on 02-04-2003 01:43 PM:

Nice release, all there too. Yes, the credits end but do you want two CDs or one CD and not all the credits? Props on doing a one CD, I hate when groups put an 85 min movie on two CDs just to have all the credts... who watches credits anyways? Quality is nice, I hate counters but that's beside the point, 8/7/6. Maybe some of VideoCD's stuff isn't great, but this is very good, review something based on it's quality, not wether you like a group or not.

For all you wankers that download off Kazaa, or get TMD/SMR encodes, don't review them here. Those groups fuck them up beyond belief, reviews here reffer to the original VCD encode, not some mangled Divx encode that's half the size and half the bitrate. If you want to watch low-quality shit that's your buisness, these boards are for reviewing VCD Encodes.

Posted by borkafatty on 02-04-2003 03:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by b00bie
To phoR20/brr87560!@3 or whatever your name is .....

Iam sorry you thought my post was negative , i did say however the movie wasnt bad quality and fast, yet when groups mislabel this shit gets nuked and people lower in the scene like you probly dont get to see it , and then you ask people like me why, so i guess iam just letting you know before hand this is why, take a look at Maid in Manhatten for instance , if you can tell me that is a different source then this movie and that this movie is a screener and that is a telecine well then your blind def and dumb, if you wanted to see this and thought to ignore the actual discrepencies with this release i can understand why you both were mad at my post ,however anyone who is part of a major group or has any knowledge of the scene will tell you videocd are lamers only out for the credits , the only respect i have for them is they got lucky and found 2-3 good suppliers, but thats as far as it goes, labeling a decent release( as i said earlier) correctly is a very important aspect of the *scene* as brr39837!P stated and should be followed accordingly, and i the more a group mislables things no matter who they are they will get flamed by non bias/ knowledgable people such as myself , props to getting a release for videocd , other then that your still lame , and for you other 2 your not lame just not as experienced as i, and that will come along , just be patient young padawans

This has to be the longest fucking sentence I have ever seen ROFFL

wITH your so call ellite ness / experiance you should at least know how to type in complete sentences.
But as you stated we are all to young and you are the great scene knowledge base.
I laugh at all you so call ellite you come here and preach your knowledge of the scene and your stature on various boards...no one cares. A true scener does not talk of his or her elliteness.

I bet half of you here would NOT! know a scene if it was right in front of you. Oh wait you are the Kaza ellite thats it...as always thanks for a great laugh BfAtZ

seen the flick good job m8's

Posted by lo.pro on 02-04-2003 05:21 PM:

Re: Re: screener or telecine , that is the question

hey, borka! :D

quote:
Originally posted by zcar
how in the hell is this a telecine
it is timecoded therefore it is obviously taken from a promotional copy
a telecine is taken from a reel of the actual film stock via a telecine machine
isnt it great when people chat bubbles about stuff which they are clearly unable to comprehend

ouch, it must be hard to walk (not to mention eat) with your foot stuck in your mouth like that.

in this application, the timecode format most often used is SMPTE VITC format (if it weren't VITC, you wouldn't be able to see the timecode in freeze frame or at lowered playback rates on the original tape). SMPTE codes are most often streamed onto the video by the TC machine itself, as the tape is being produced from film. this, in fact, is the most common way for them to be generated, all the later copies just being dupes of the original SMPTE (or, it can be put there at any one of a number of later stages of duplication, by various devices -- hell, i've got an svhs player that can generate an SMPTE tone -- however, generally, VITC timecodes can not be added to an existing tape, as can LTC formats, because the timecode is part of the video stream, as opposed to being streamed to one of the audio tracks; therefore, it must be created at the time of the orignal telecining, or else while duping to another tape).

in any case, my point is, the TC machine can easily produce an SMPTE stream, and this is in fact the most logical time for one to be produced, since this is when the framerate etc is being adjusted, and will set a standard against which future dubs and edits can be compared (in the US, the NTSC 30fps "drop code" format is most often used, when dealing with a feature-length film).

it's not a big deal when ppl don't know what they're talking about, but it's really lame when some smartass jumps in trying to put other people down by spouting shit about which he knows nothing. next time, do your homework before you try to make yourself feel smarter by putting others down, asshole.

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Posted by OzZyOz on 02-04-2003 05:30 PM:

Yes An Matrix 2 and The Third I lubs my kazaa. /me loves maknig people laugh!

Posted by zcar on 02-04-2003 05:34 PM:

hmmm
i think you will find im fully conversent with using a DV-8
or i wouldnt have the position in the scene that i have

Posted by backoff on 02-04-2003 05:48 PM:

Its good being sick

I have been sick since Friday (today is Tues.) so I sit home, watch TV and download movies. Well since nobody who downloads is home then, I get free reign over xdcc bots, I just got this in 1hr 20mins with NO QUEUES!!!! woot woot. I would say 7/7/? (have watched about 1/4 and think it is weird, but cool)

Posted by lo.pro on 02-04-2003 06:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by zcar
hmmm
i think you will find im fully conversent with using a DV-8
or i wouldnt have the position in the scene that i have

oh, man, you just insist on shoving that leg further and further down your throat, don't you?

when you did your "ask jeeves" query for "what is the name of a telecine machine", you should have specified that you meant one *other* than one for home movies :p... i'll bet you've really managed to achieve a l33t scene position transferring all those hollywood films that are shot on super-8 film :D

or oh, wait, i'm sorry... did you mean this? http://www.dv-8.com/

Posted by knweedo on 02-04-2003 06:13 PM:

b00bie it is obvious you don't have the superior intelligence you claim. People that really are good at something, or really do know how to do something don't go around telling people they are the best, and how smart they are. If you really are so 1337 just downlad movies and rate them, none of this "I'm better than you and that's why I have this movie and you'll never get it!" shit. I personally don't really care if this is a screener or not, it's damn nice quality, and it looks like a screener to me. I don't see why a group would lie about wether it's a screener or a telecine.

Posted by blacks on 02-04-2003 06:15 PM:

As much as i hate to read through the entire piece of technical crap, i am fairly sure that lo.pro has a fine knowledge of the technical aspects of such media as he has demostrated before. So my advice to you(zcar) would be to keep quiet and dont flaunt your scene position.
For all you know, lo.pro might be someone more "influential"(?) than you are.

So please, for our sakes(yes, most of us cannot take those long essay replies from lo.pro), and yours, just keep quiet.

Have a nice day fellas.

Posted by lo.pro on 02-04-2003 06:24 PM:

hehe pfft i don't have any influence over anything, that's for sure :D

on the other hand, i don't go around trying to justify my putting ppl down by talking about how my mastery of the 8mm film format makes me scene-mastah :p

but you're not the first to note i'm a bit long-winded, blacks, and i'm sure you won't be the last... sorry bout that ;)

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