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Posted by spikeddem on 05-03-2003 04:56 PM:

ok i'm gunna have to go out and see this movie i guess....but as long as it's in the matrix, it would be impossible for Neo to lose the fight.....and well i (obviously) havent seen this movie, but i would assume it would take place on Earth, the "unplugged Earth." So .....Cleric would lose. Even if he got unplugged he still couldnt beat him....there arent many new skills he could learn....

(i already voted)

Posted by exorcist on 05-03-2003 10:39 PM:

According to Matrix lore, Cleric is plugged into the Matrix, so Neo would own on him

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Posted by cyberspaz on 05-22-2003 03:07 AM:

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Who said the fighting styles don't apply to Neo in the "real world". He knows Kung Fu. That doesn't mean just in the Matrix.. so really, Either way Cleric is matched for that. Plus, Cleric would already be in the Matrix. He never left..

Everything Neo does is pre-assembled in the construct before being jacked into the matrix. You don't see him bringing back the weapons or clothing from his jaunts, do you? Doesn't seem to make sense that he'd retain anything else from the construct, either. It's all part of his residual self-image.

Besides, we're mixing worlds here. Neo's was ravaged by machines. Cleric's was supermodified after a third and catastrophic world war. So either Neo is on the interval in Cleric's world, (adv. Cleric) or Cleric is still a battery in Neo's world (adv. Neo). All bets would be off, because they live in seperate worlds (so to speak) and a coexistence would be impossible.

But just to humor the thread, I vote for Cleric. Even though Neo can stop bullets, he doesn't do it often. We only see him do this when he his directly facing the enemy and somewhat prepared. After the Keymaker opens the door and Neo grabs Morpheus and flies towards the door, his back is turned and the agents are firing bullets. Seems a small miracle that he made it without taking a round or two, and he certainly didn't try to stop them.

And Gun-kata isn't merely standing a few paces away and shooting dead-on at your nemesis. Hell, Cleric took out a whole room in the dark without taking a single round himself. The Gun-Kata is said to increase firing efficiency of no less than 120%. The matrix agents couldn't even hit shit during the whole movie, leading me to believe that their weapon proficiency is no better than above-average.

Ahhh fuck it. Bruce Lee would own them both.

Posted by Medievalchimp on 05-22-2003 09:02 PM:

lol...w0rd there! My vote is with Bruce...he has super speed and actually knows the damn moves I mean if that one asian guy can give Neo a fight Lee would rip his ass apart

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Posted by briansmi on 05-24-2003 04:07 AM:

Well, if they are fighting in The Matrix, Neo would win. But if they in the real world, Mr. Anderson would have his ass handed to him!

Posted by filetfish on 05-24-2003 04:11 AM:

The cleric would prolly get owned. Neo can look at the world without time and stop his every move.

Posted by humbry on 05-24-2003 02:18 PM:

well that depence on the screenwriters I'd say. You see, both do not acctualy exist!

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