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Posted by unique on 07-06-2003 09:47 PM:

just watched the sample...not bad i give it a 7/8/? .
video is not that great, sound is ok.
gj centropy, as usual

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Posted by DaGaMe87 on 07-06-2003 09:50 PM:

Seen sample for both, TCF has really good sound and a good picture, but the colours are not great, but it is definatly watchable,
Centropy release has about the same sound and the picture is much better than TCF's because it has better colours. But i changed the colour contrast on my tv and it made the TCF release have much better colours.

If you have a choice of TCF'S release or Centropy's release, you should definatly get centropy's release because it is slighyly better.

THANKS TCF AND CENTROPY FOR QUALITY MOVIE
RELEASES!!!!!!!!

Posted by psilocybinC on 07-06-2003 09:56 PM:

Audio: 8.5/10
Video: 8.5/10
Movie: 10/10 terminator 0wnz0rz

Posted by Monei on 07-06-2003 10:03 PM:

With so many releases of this movie, it gives people a choice, which i guess is nice, but the fact stands that a dupe is a dupe, ctp has proven to users in the past that it can raise the bar, however on comparing this release to TCF's, i dont think it justified them releasing it anyways and ingnoring the rules. Props to TCF and smaller props to CTP... Hey CTP you guys can't win all the time! Don't let it get to you and keep releasing! Both you guys own let's keep it going.

T3 CTP - 7/8/10

Posted by skinlab100 on 07-06-2003 10:33 PM:

About time CTP releases T3 from sample i saw give 8/8/9 , watched tcf last night and must def comparing the sample to this gettin this one also , color is better and i dig CTP's angel. Props to tcf before ctp but ctp is "THE ONE" L8rs

:: They have an "Angel" now too? -K::

Posted by LuDes on 07-06-2003 10:37 PM:

Oh no there are two releases out.. Who cares, just get which ever one you want. You know many people where waiting for a centropy release and here it is right on schedule. Great... fantastic.. yeah i though the colors where much better and so was the audio there was a buzz on tcf. There is an angle but nothing that was worth crying over. I will probably get this .. cause who cares, you guys act like you all arent a bunch of leeches anyway..

i voted 8/9/7

I agree there is only slight improvement but there is improvement (minus angle) plus its got the centropy seal of approval which so many demand..

Posted by swiz on 07-06-2003 10:50 PM:

There is nothing to discuss - this release is much better then the TCF. Colors are more clear, angle nearly ok... audio quality - hmm, i see no difference between the 2 versions - both OK!

My rating - 8/7/?

I can't believe it, they really did it!! Absolutely great movie!

My rating for it --- 10!

Posted by CcZ on 07-06-2003 10:56 PM:

It's a nice release...colors are decent, sound is nice, it's a slight improvement over TCF's but not huge. The movie was suprisingly enjoyable, saw it today, maybe I'll give my opinion on it later but Leigh's review pretty much sums it up...
7/8/7

Posted by perra_himself on 07-06-2003 11:04 PM:

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Originally posted by Monei
but the fact stands that a dupe is a dupe

/me listening to FEDEX - Quality (Nothing else matters to me)

Seriously I see no point with those appz dupes and mp3 shitzor but this is SVCD man and a GREAT movie i presume

TCF roxx but Centropy´s is better and as you probably already understood, the better quality - the happier me

8/9/?

Posted by orcko on 07-06-2003 11:27 PM:

not bad but movie suck

nice to see another release but i think the movie was not that good i was expecting more and i already got the tCf one Dupe well the sample look pretty ok but i have seen better but since hte movie was not good i stick with tcf

Posted by Mr_Grinch on 07-07-2003 12:02 AM:

Groovy (Sorry, been watching Evil Dead 2)

I think people have got over rating CTP's releases highly just cos they're ctp. Fact is all their releases (With few exceptions) are of excellent quality. This one too. The quality is far superior to TCF's (Which was good), much better in dark scenes.

Posted by master-drew on 07-07-2003 12:11 AM:

I'll admit this is a better release then the TCF one, but Centropy needs to fix a few things.

1. Play by the fucking VCD/SVCD scene rules and stop thinking your god and better then everyone. Its not too fucking hard to put INTERNAL in your foldername, but then if you guys do that, then that means someone beat you to it, and you guys cry.

2. Stop cropping the damn video size so much and stop fucking moving the camera every scene to try and make the camera pick up shit on the sides that are cutoff. I noticed in charlies angels, Centropy moved the camera around quite a bit. Angle the camera properly, and leave it, shit.

3. Fix your angle problem as it is quite annonying. It wrecks the movie so much.

Im done.

TCF: Video=7, Audio=7, Movie=9
CTP: Video=7, Audio=8, Movie=9

Posted by JayTray on 07-07-2003 12:44 AM:

Good Job...

Good work CTP... But, I can't stand the fish eye your camera lens creates. Sure the colors are awsome, but TCF's release had a perfect angle. I don't mind having less vibrant colors instead of your release that has that notorious "fish eye" angle. Anyways, keep em coming and please try to see about a new lense for the camera. Thanx for keepin them coming.

7/8/8

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Posted by gofast on 07-07-2003 01:32 AM:

Another fine rls from CTP
about as close you'll get to a screener atm.
picture maybe a tad redish but it's something you can fix on your tv, sound is practically perfect
movie is very good!!

8/9/10

Posted by EccoDomi on 07-07-2003 02:47 AM:

Aspect Ratio vs. Cropping (and my review)

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can someone who's seen both releases explain this to me please?

measuring the aspect ratio of the tcf version it was a near perfect 2.35:1

i just got the jpeg sample of ctp's version and i measured the aspect ratio to about 2.3:1

so what are people talking about a cropped image? have the top and bottom been cut to compensate for a smaller wide picture, thus deceptively mimicking a more acceptable aspect ratio?

LOL. Aspect ratios and size/cropping ARE NOT THE SAME. they haver nothing to do with each other. The denotation of: xx:xx is a comparison of width and height . 4:3 aspect ration (i.e. Fullscreen) means there are 4 width blocks and 3 height. (similar to 800x600 or 1024x768 notation, but who the hell wants to deal with all those numbers? Its easier). 16:9 (i.e. Widescreen) is a lot wider as you will notice. Its more wider than if it were 4:3 (using simple math, 4:3 is the same thing, basically, as 16:12, so you see the ratio difference.) Why is the 9 height smaller than the 3 height in their respected ratios? Simply because it does the 16 first, and adjusts the 9 to fit to that proportionally.

Now lets talk about cropping. I work in a movie theatre and actually get to see a lot of shti you guys dont. Example: Did you know they shoot and deliver the video raw to theatres? Yup. When in the theatre and the masking tape that hides the extra width and height is removed, you can see the boom mikes they used to film the movie with. They leave em in! The movie is actually MUCH bigger than the screens. I've seen plenty of raw movies, and the picture is actually a good 5 feet above and below the screen and about 1-2 feet more ont he side (including sound lines). The theatre then fits the movie on to the screen (we are an older theatre so we use maskin tape over the lens). So, and I forget which movie it was, but lots of folks were bitchin about seeing the boom mikes in a CTP release. Those aren't their mikes (lol and why would they be? Are they using them cause the speakers are in the theatre seats where the mikes are pointed to? lol), thats bad theatre cropping and centering (if you see those and its cropped [with tape] then the theatre did a bad job and the movie isn't centered how it should be). Ok, sry for the digression, back to cropping vs. aspect ratio. A movie, if cropped proportionally will have the same aspect ratio because aspect ratio is width vs. height (e.g. if the original movie is 16 feet by 12 feet, and is cropped [or scaled, which would lose no picture data] down to 4 feet by 3 feet, the aspect ratio is the same. 16/12 = 4/3. Simple fraction reduction.)

So the aspect ratio might be the same, or near the same, but that doesn't mean it wasn't cropped. So what probably happened was that TCF filmed their on a larger screen where the theatre didn't cut out as much. Lets say their was a 16:12 and CTP was a 12:8. Same Aspect Ratio, less movie. Get it now? (all the number in these last two sections are made up. I dont really know what they used and cant be nothered to get the actual aspect ratio and stick it into a calculator and mess with it.)

Review: 7/7/? - If ya got TCF or hate angles, stick with it. If you love CTP, get this. I'm gonna get neither (i see em for free ne way :P )

-J

Posted by UltrA1 on 07-07-2003 02:48 AM:

please stop the angles
8x8x9
omg keepn TCF's no angles and less red
why waste the disc's
you both rock keep it up
later

Posted by GeNeTiX on 07-07-2003 02:50 AM:

better than the TCF
but i have the TCF so im gonna stick with it, its not that much better
it is cropped, probably to reduce the angle
i dont really notice it, but i guess it really bothers some people
awesome colour, sound is superb
8/8/10

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Posted by RUiNU on 07-07-2003 03:11 AM:

Nice colors but from the sample it has alot of pixulation Sound is good

7/7/? havent watched the whole thing yet

Posted by Chewsmoka on 07-07-2003 03:20 AM:

Video : Nice colors, clean picture, everything you would *expect* from ctp.

Audio : Clear and synced, no complaints.

Personal preferance on which version is better, TCF is you want a wider image, CTP if you want a cleaner picture - imho of course.

8/8/? tonight's feature!

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quote:
Originally posted by platinum_bomb
Dude, It wasn't there and still isn't... I was waiting to see what the pic looked like cuz the release was up, but there was no pic and i didn't find the sample, mo fo. Don't make me come and tie ur arms to ur chair and beat u silly with your own keyboard

lol

Will edit this after i get it.

Posted by nogana naishi on 07-07-2003 03:31 AM:

Judging by the sample, this one has much, MUCH better colors than the TCF version, and it isn't artificially brightened like the TCF. It's also a bit sharper, but as a consequence there are more visible MPEG artifacts.

There are no quiet parts in the sample, so I can't tell if there's a buzz in this version, but the audio does seem clearer.

Movie was good.

8/7/7

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