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yeah if it went to court though id like to see whod win(if we all dident know already)

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Originally posted by jeffreyw
yeah if it went to court though id like to see whod win(if we all dident know already)

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Dennis L. Wilson
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California Bar Admission: 1991

Specialization: Copyright, Trademark, Internet

Dennis Wilson has focused his entire career on the protection of intellectual property rights. Dennis' intellectual property practice includes the full-range of litigation, counseling, and transactions concerning copyright, trademark, and e-commerce issues.

Dennis also provides general intellectual property advise and counseling to his clients on a variety of e-commerce, licensing and merchandising matters, and has worked in the development of federal legislation and international administrative policies involving the development of the domain name system. Dennis is a frequent speaker on intellectual property, strategic branding and new media issues at local and national bar associations and international trademark associations, and conducts seminars for corporate clients across the U. S.

In 1997, together with Kristin R. Allen and Michelle L. Cohen, Dennis founded the San Diego law firm of Creative Mind Advocates LLP. Prior to founding CMA, Larry was a partner in the San Diego office of Baker & Hostetler LLP.

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The legallity of having the still pictures from the movies is no contest... they are illegal. Paramount owns the copyright to the movie and all of its images. The still pics are taken from an illegal copy of the movie that has not been given expressed conesent from PAramount, thereby making the pics a copyright infringement as well.

Someone pointed out that games have sample pics all the time. This is true but those sample pics are released by the copyright owner for public use as a way to advertise their product. These two situations are not comparible.

I would suggest that you remove all jpegs, or at the very least the ones from Paramount Studios. Let the other studios come after you one by one if you wnat, but they will eventually come unfortunately. Once you have done that they will not have a case on you as movies nor samples are held here or distributed through this medium. Essentially this just becomes a forum to rate and discuss the media the studios produce... and cannot be held responsible if other people discuss the quality of illegal copies.

Best of luck in your case, and I hope someone here is an actual lawyer who can provide you some sound legal advice!

I Read this in Businessweek

TINSELTOWN'S AIM: TO CATCH A THIEF
by Ronald Grover in Los Angeles | 7.21.03



Jim Carrey was there. So were Jennifer Aniston and Morgan Freeman. Far less visible at the May 21 premiere of Bruce Almighty, amid the moguls, stars, and fans, were the latest members of Hollywood's A-list: Rent-a-cops who patrolled the upper balconies at the cavernous Universal Amphitheater, prowling for pirates with camcorders.

Hollywood is in full crackdown mode for crooks who pilfer films by recording them at premieres and press screenings. Metal detectors meet most folks at these shows, along with stern signs warning against copying. As part of its ban on all electronic equipment, Fox Entertainment Group earlier this year barred cell phones at one screening. And Hollywood is developing jamming devices that will disable camcorders and other electronic gizmos inside a theater. ``We take this very seriously. These are criminals we're talking about,'' says Fox Filmed Entertainment Chairman Jim Gianopulos.

More than 50 films were stolen this year before they were shown on screen, says the Motion Picture Assn. of America. Often, say MPAA enforcement officials, thieves get $10,000 apiece for the hottest films, which are then shuttled to crime syndicates in Taiwan, Thailand, and elsewhere in Asia, to be mass produced. Then the pirated DVDs are sold on the streets of Asian, European, and U.S. cities. The margins are huge. Counterfeiters can sell the DVDs, which cost 62 cents apiece, for as much as $15.

Studios, which lost an estimated $3 billion to counterfeiting last year, are also staging raids on DVD plants. The MPAA, working with a network of informants and local police, closed down 63 illegal factories in Asia this year, 12 in Malaysia alone. But prosecution is lax in many Asian countries because gangs threaten prosecutors and judges, says MPAA Asian enforcement chief Mike Ellis. Sentences can be light for those who are nabbed. Last year, a Singapore pirate caught with more than 2,000 pirated DVDs got 18 months.

Hollywood is making some headway in keeping films out of thieves' hands. In April, FBI agents nabbed a man camcording Paramount Pictures' sci-fi flick The Core at a media screening. In its most impressive collar yet, Universal and the FBI used a ``tag'' digitally embedded in The Hulk to trace a pirated version of the film to 25-year-old Kerry Gonzalez. The New Jersey man received the film from a friend at the studio's New York ad agency and put it on the Net weeks ahead of the movie's opening. Gonzalez, who pleaded guilty on June 25 to making an unauthorized digital copy, faces a possible maximum $250,000 fine and up to three years in prison. ``We are sending a message here,'' says Universal Studios President Rick Finkelstein.

On the Net, studios intend to be even more vigilant. Hollywood's trade group plans to ratchet up a campaign to send out cease-and-desist letters to online pirate services: Last year it mailed 163,000 warnings and sent off so-called spoof movies to trip up pirates. The studios have resisted suing their customers directly, as the recording industry is now doing, but execs hope the music crackdown will be a deterrent for all pirates. ``Litigation should scare people,'' says Sir Howard Stringer, CEO of Sony Corp. of America.

Hollywood has already begun to poke fun at its own plight. Earlier this year, a flood of DVDs, sent out to Academy Award voters, found their way onto the black market. Oscar host Steve Martin joked about it on this year's telecast, kidding that Meryl Streep had put her disks on eBay. The line got one of the biggest laughs of the night.

I see nothing wrong with posting nfo, comments etc.

The only thing you could do to please them is to take off there pictures for the movie's they listed.
Since that's the only copyright thing here, unless this site is in a 3rd world country.

Other then that they want you to sign a guilty plee :>
Bunch of fools & grubby bastards!
RIAA+MPAA should really get a life & stop sueing all the KaZZa kiddies parents!

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Originally posted by che
In its most impressive collar yet, Universal and the FBI used a ``tag'' digitally embedded in The Hulk to trace a pirated version of the film to 25-year-old Kerry Gonzalez. The New Jersey man received the film from a friend at the studio's New York ad agency and put it on the Net weeks ahead of the movie's opening. Gonzalez, who pleaded guilty on June 25 to making an unauthorized digital copy, faces a possible maximum $250,000 fine and up to three years in prison. ``We are sending a message here,'' says Universal Studios President Rick Finkelstein.

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Scrobble all you want, we'll make more!

notice how the media makes it look like he got caught when he did it. another scare tactic.

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Originally posted by Senic
They got nothing. They don't even have proof. Were the fuck is the movie file? This site doesn't store any movies. If they go to court Paramount will just prove how fucking stupid they are. Including the MPAA. There are no files here. There wouldn't even be anything for the court to debate over. The issue is mute.

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Originally posted by TheSmurf
The legallity of having the still pictures from the movies is no contest... they are illegal. Paramount owns the copyright to the movie and all of its images. The still pics are taken from an illegal copy of the movie that has not been given expressed conesent from PAramount, thereby making the pics a copyright infringement as well.

Someone pointed out that games have sample pics all the time. This is true but those sample pics are released by the copyright owner for public use as a way to advertise their product. These two situations are not comparible.

I would suggest that you remove all jpegs, or at the very least the ones from Paramount Studios. Let the other studios come after you one by one if you wnat, but they will eventually come unfortunately. Once you have done that they will not have a case on you as movies nor samples are held here or distributed through this medium. Essentially this just becomes a forum to rate and discuss the media the studios produce... and cannot be held responsible if other people discuss the quality of illegal copies.

Best of luck in your case, and I hope someone here is an actual lawyer who can provide you some sound legal advice!

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Originally posted by pHo
but the fact if anyone took us to court would be expensive and bad enough in itself. paramount or whatever studio can afford court cases, we can't.

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Pointing out the obvious.

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I, ___________________________, hereby acknowledge that I have ceased offering and/or distributing unauthorized copies of the Paramount Motion Picture Properties and any other goods which infringe Paramount's rights in any of its motion picture properties; and have complied with (1)-(3) above. ....

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Originally posted by bryehn
if they figured out where to get a movie from this this site, i wanna know too.

every time i click those links all i get are nth gen stills...what codec do i need for that?

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Originally posted by someth1ng
Please tell me you are joking....you really think there's a special codec out there that makes movies appear on this web site? Come on man....you totally gotta be kidding me.

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Originally posted by teen_wasteland
Save it, he was being sarcastic.

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Originally posted by TheSmurf
The legallity of having the still pictures from the movies is no contest... they are illegal. Paramount owns the copyright to the movie and all of its images. The still pics are taken from an illegal copy of the movie that has not been given expressed conesent from PAramount, thereby making the pics a copyright infringement as well.

Someone pointed out that games have sample pics all the time. This is true but those sample pics are released by the copyright owner for public use as a way to advertise their product. These two situations are not comparible.

etc etc....

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If the legal system actually worked like it's supposed to, the samples would probably fall under Fair Use and be legal. I say "probably" because they're taken for the purpose of commentary on the technical aspects of an unauthorized copy, not for commentary on the content of the actual film. That's a little murky from my non-lawyerly perspective.

In practical terms, however, they have the teams of lawyers, cash on hand, and bribed members of at least one and likely all three branches of the federal government. In short, they are the proverbial 800-pound gorilla.

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Originally posted by CoWs`
So wat about games on the computer which are copyrighted, am i not allowed to take screenshots of that ?

and also abotu isonews, the guy was actualyl the one modding the xbox's there wasnt just linkst o other pages doing it, he was doing it himself....unlike vcdq wher ethere are just links to the sites that do it

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Parmount is gay.
Tomb Raider sux.
Case closed.

Tell Paramount to suck a juicy wet fart out of ur ass and then ull think about takin the pics down. I love the part about reporting all names, phone numbers, and addresses of all involved parties!!! What the fuck is wrong with these morons???

Have we all forgot about freedom of speech and freedom of the press??

Well today is the 4th, so what happened man?

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Please sign this letter in the space provided below, and return it with the above-requested materials to the undersigned before the close of business on August 4, 2003. If we do not receive your written confirmation before that date, we will be forced to recommend that Paramount immediately take further legal action.

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