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-- Matrix Reloaded *PROPER* - DVDRIP - Chakra (http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.php?threadid=25732)


Posted by oodacoo on 08-11-2003 02:52 PM:

very nice release i give you guys props...i'm been waiting for a dvd quality to download to hold on to, until i buy the actual dvd but nice release 10/10/10 (loved the movie)


Posted by neoterixx on 08-11-2003 09:26 PM:

awesome release. Picture looks flawless

9/9/8.

I've been waiting for a DVD RIP of this movie, Still goin to get the dvd when it comes out for my collection


Posted by bryehn on 08-12-2003 12:53 AM:

gawdammit! i can't for the life of me get disc 3

great release, though...couldn't ask for more...although if i can't find cd3 today or tomorrow, i'ma get the equally good pr0nstars xvid, and view via tvout...

nice to see someone besides tcf with an early release

9/9/6

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Posted by MaStERjedi420 on 08-12-2003 04:52 AM:

bad ass release...picked this up the other night and for what i can tell no mistakes on this one...watched whole release..lookin fucking spectacular 9.5/9/11


Posted by Crack104 on 08-12-2003 04:52 AM:

What can i say this release is nice "clean" good video and audio and quality, too bad this was PAL if it was NTSC the audio would of been much better but it's all good, another SVCD DVDRip to add to my collection

:: the audio would've been better if it was NTSC? errr how exactly? what the hell does the video resolution/fps have to do with audio!?!? -pHo


Posted by Wanderer22 on 08-12-2003 08:46 AM:

To answer your question, Pho, at least the way I see it... PAL audio is too fast. The change from 24fps to 25 is done by doing a very slight speed-up on the footage. For the most part, it's unnoticable, as the difference is only one frame per second. But after watching the CTP release so many times, and listening to the soundtrack CD, this rip is definitely a touch faster than I'm "used to" it being. The audio is the only place it's noticable, as the eye can't differentiate a single frame per second. That's one reason why I prefer NTSC (also since I live in the U.S.. hehe).

But that's the only "flaw" I can find.. From everything I know about audio/video, that's the ONLY difference between NTSC audio and PAL audio. And yeah, it's a little quiet, but it's nothing that a.. uh.. whachicallit.. "volume control".. can't fix.

Didn't stop me from burning it for the tele, though. A quick re-encode to NTSC 30fps, works great. Should hold me over just fine until October.


Posted by DividedSky on 08-12-2003 05:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wanderer22
Didn't stop me from burning it for the tele, though. A quick re-encode to NTSC 30fps, works great. Should hold me over just fine until October.

I agree about PAL audio being annoying because it's all too fast, too high-pitched. But what does re-encoding to 30fps give you? If you're re-encoding anyway, why not slow it back down to 24fps, rather than waste space and bitrate at 30fps?


Posted by pHo on 08-12-2003 05:50 PM:

DivSky : svcd doesn't support ntscfilm (23.967fps)

personally, i'd take a 4% audio shift (which lets face it, when done from a proper PAL source is 99.9% unnoticable) over pulldown ANY DAY of the week. pull down is the evil of the movie world, you wont notice it till you know its there, and when you've seen it you'll never miss it again. judder-judder-judder

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Posted by Wanderer22 on 08-12-2003 06:47 PM:

The encode to NTSC was just so I could watch it on the TV. I'm not really technically inclined enough to do a complete re-encode from 25fps to 24 to set it back to it's proper speed.. I just loaded the PAL file into TMPGEnc and told it to spit out an NTSC file. It's still playing back at PAL speed, just on an NTSC television. I think it's skipping frames here and there, but it's barely noticable unless you're looking for it, and even then you can only see it during the long slow-mo shots. But it still looks and sounds fantastic, more than enough to keep me occupied until the retail R1 DVD.


Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 08-13-2003 01:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by alexend
I may be asking this for nothing but I'm trying anyway...

Where did you got those release so early? On edonkey it's still not 100% available, same thing for the Chakra SVCD release... so I wonder where you guys did get them?

I'm not a newbie so I'm only asking for a hint, I can figure out the rest :-)

Thanks



Posted by cadillact on 08-13-2003 01:39 AM:

Good start for this group

Hi !!

Even though I'm not a pal fan they sure rip good.

This is one among the few svcd's that i can zoom into the picture
on my dvd without getting pixilated.

I wish my tv could play pal but when i buy my next tv I will make sure it can.

For the volume, I do have a volume control with some filters to add so thats not a biggie at all.


Posted by cadillact on 08-13-2003 01:43 AM:

To XeroFightsAlone

Yes you are a newbie aka noob aka frisbee etc since you even need a hint.

Use some of your cells, they cant all be dead can they ?


Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 08-13-2003 02:17 AM:

Re: To XeroFightsAlone

quote:
Originally posted by cadillact
Yes you are a newbie aka noob aka frisbee etc since you even need a hint.

Use some of your cells, they cant all be dead can they ?


who said i needed a hint shit face? i was laughing at the real newbie.


Posted by Pra3t0 on 08-13-2003 04:49 AM:

Thumbs up

Awesome quality rip!

(hope you guys do the X2 and T3 rips )

9/9/8


Posted by labrat1 on 08-13-2003 03:47 PM:

j

Got it loved it altho its not encoded very well... it gets blockey when there is alot of action still better than anything else


Posted by Tony_Montana on 08-14-2003 12:29 PM:

9/9/9

Picture - Just beautiful. Pretty much flawless. Couldn't ask for more. This will hold anyone over until the DVD is released.

Sound - The sound is great but it's low. However, on my tv, the problem goes away completely.

Movie - Awesome movie. The action sequences, special effects and camera work are unmatched. The acting isn't perfect and there are some flaws. The plot is very deep, complex and great if you can understand it and accept it (unlike a lot of bitchy people).

Fucking awesome release. Thanks to Chakra.


Posted by ArmyCpl on 08-16-2003 11:34 PM:

My DVD player is acting up

I can watch many SVCD's in my dvd player but for some reason when i put in this release the vertical picture gets all fucked up. i tried it in my computer using my cdrw drive with power dvd 5.0 and the picture skips but the sound is normal
Any suggestions that can help me would be appreciated


Posted by dopeuser8 on 08-20-2003 07:29 AM:

sound plays too fast now?

I'm going nuts reading these forums, maybe I dont get it, so Ill ask...
Isn't the digital-to-analog audio conversion of the mp2 file in the svcd/vcd done 'independently' from the video? The video is encoded at xxxx kbps & xx fps and the audio at xxx kbps with the sampling freq of xxxxx hz (hz = cycles per second). So its all done in 'whatever' bits of information PER SECOND.
A 10 minute (600 second) clip running at 29.97 fps, reencoded to 25 fps doesnt play in 8.34 minutes (500.5 seconds), it will still play in 10 minutes. So the multiplexed audio track will still play in 10 minutes also. So nothing should sound speeded up or slowed down, it should sould excactly the same, not to mention the original mp2 track should be multiplexed with the reencoded video anyways, since it would only lower sound quality to reencode it again.
I'm open to the fact that I could be wrong, I dont think I am, but please, I dont buy the whole 'converting ntsc to pal (or the other way around) will make a slight change in the audio speed playback', so please give me a little more technical proof, because I am curious if this is an actual fact. And please lets not turn this into a flame war, I'm asking an honest question here.


Posted by 7thEye on 08-20-2003 11:07 PM:

Whats does TV type have to do with playing PAL SVCDS?

My TV doesn't play PAL but when I put these into my DVD player it plays them fine. In fact, the player doesn't even know if its PAL/NTSC...all SVCDs/VCDs are the same.


Posted by EmPreSS on 08-24-2003 07:59 AM:

I bought a cheap $80 Daewoo player because it plays ntsc and pal and plays cdr/vcd/svcd/cdrw/dvdr etc...

Anyway, I've had this rls for awhile and just wanted to say it's perfect. No flaws in the video or audio at all. NO pixelated spots at all. It looks exactly like "real" dvd's I watch all the time. Only way this can look any better is to see it in the theater again...

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