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Posted by Cardcaddy on 05-05-2002 06:10 AM:

Workprint, wake up. Its a TS. Movie played fine on a Pioneer 434 but would not play on a 444 audio but scrolling black and white picture. Any ideas on that one?


Posted by BobHasBigBalls on 05-05-2002 06:38 AM:

...........

FIRST OFF:

THIS IS NOT A WORKPRINT.

look at blade2. whenever theres a CGI scene it has the aspect ratio changing too. It has happened in a lot of CTP's releases.

Obviously the source has been recorded on tape and another has been done on the computer. When you put them together differences could occur. Im sure there is a logical reason, but for now, shut the fuck up with this workprint shit.

'Nuff said.


Posted by Gurpinder on 05-05-2002 06:43 AM:

how is this a workprint? looks pretty much like a fantastic quality ts to me. anyways, this release owns me, and so does ctp! excelent work!


Posted by Cerial on 05-05-2002 07:00 AM:

um... i dont mean to be an asshole, but to all the peolpe who replied to this thread "i think im going to reencode to 2 cd vcd". DOES ANYONE GIVE A FUCK. no gives a FUCK what u r going to do with tmpeg and a few hours of ur time. you dont need to come on here and say "svcd is stupid because im too cheap to buy a apex dvd player" and then think u r cool that ur going to re-encode the release... i really doubt if Centropy cares whether or not ur going to encode it to vcd or asf of divx or whatever format u feel like pulling out of ur ass.


Posted by Cerial on 05-05-2002 07:35 AM:

this is the first TS i've seen with another movie preview on the front... The Hulk.


Posted by Cubbs on 05-05-2002 07:49 AM:

Blah. I own an apex dvd player which does svcd just fine. The point of 2 vcds is no real quality loss on a ts and one less disc swap

hey, maybe no one cares that someone is going to reencode, but no one gives a fuck about your opinion about that, either.


Posted by deftones6 on 05-05-2002 08:28 AM:

i dont think this is a workprint, I noticed the black dot on the top right of the screen several times, and i wouldnt think that they would have that on a workprint, but thats just my guess. An awesome release, but for some reason I think the release of life or something like it was better.


Posted by Div on 05-05-2002 08:52 AM:

3CD SVCD TS, whats next... 4CD?
Yes... as has been said b4, it would have looked good enough as 2CD vcd.
The svcd is bad encoded too as it is very blocky in action scenes.

Another funny thing is that CTP starts talking about quality in their nfo. If there is one group which shouldn't talk about quality regarding to SVCD then it is them...

So anyway,
7/7 .. nothing amazing, just ok.
Ctp, It is time to head back to normal life again...,
That is VCD and 2CD SVCD for short movies.
Go back to svcd only when you have a progressive cam and a stereo input.


Posted by plonk420 on 05-05-2002 09:11 AM:

Re: Centropy's Release of Spiderman

quote:
Originally posted by rotweiler
[B]Before I am accused of matricide....read on. There is an SVCD standard. This release by Centropy is NOT to that standard and is therefore NOT playable on a majority of the dvd machines out there.


care to expand upon this? how is it not standard SVCD? i haven't seen it yet, but please expand upon this claim...

is the bitrate CBR (at a bitrate other than 1.15mbs)? audio VBR or MP3? total bitrate greater than 2824kbs?


Posted by plonk420 on 05-05-2002 09:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cubbs
The more i read, the more it sounds like i'll be doing a reencode to 2 VCDs. Anyone interested? :P


when and if you do, be sure to matte the pic to 1.85:1 it'll save some bits per frame and make it the way it was supposed to be shown. unless you want the screen "changing sizes" all the time, from what i hear.

a 1.85:1 image @ NTSC is matted at around 192 pixels tall (rounded to the nearest 16 pixels so as not to waste a hell of a lot of bits on a macroblock that is half black). not sure what PAL is...


Posted by pill on 05-05-2002 09:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by M_J
why a svcd?

my crappy dvd player cant hande svcd's but oh well. Im still downloading it! Excellent work Centropy. FTF take notes!



Burn the svcd as a vcd, i know in nero you can do this. most dvd players can play mpeg2 (svcd) but they look in the wrong dir for some reason. If it still wont work find a file called mpeg2codec_installer.zip and do bin -> mpg and then burn that as an vcd, garaunteed to work.

And cerial i for one think the hulk preview was worth ripping also, relevant and the only movie with it currently i think.


Posted by gizmo on 05-05-2002 09:40 AM:

amazing quality for a new theater release

I must say that this is one of the best quality release for a movie in the theater less than a week. I can't wait to watch the entire movie! Great work!


Posted by Norco01 on 05-05-2002 10:44 AM:

I have to agree with Cerial about people not being idiots and telling us what they are going to waste time doing. Just because you have a shitty ass dvd player that doesn't play SVCD's isn't our problem, and your too poor to buy a cheaply made apex player for 50 bucks at walmart is nothing we need to hear about. This release is way better than TEG's, Teg's is a CAM, The cam looses to everything, cropped picture, hollow sound, subtitles, wow doesn't that sound like a great release. I saw this movie originally in the theaters and then grabbed this centropy release to watch again and its great quality. I wish they would keep up these great svcd's of new releases that way a) less newbies download it because there's way too many b) no more *propers* of *propers*. We have enough of those with dvd rips, it gets annoying after awhile with vcd's too and nobody knows what to download. Ok peeps, if you have a problem with this encoding style and the change of aspect ratio is offensive to you, dont download it, dont watch it, and dont enjoy this great movie. Props to centropy, fighting the green goblin movie industry.


Posted by Achilles97206 on 05-05-2002 10:58 AM:

ok, I stand corrected... the matting is changing... so where the hell did this come from? it's not from a theater... has to be a workprint right?


Posted by LuDes on 05-05-2002 11:17 AM:

pretty nice

better than the cam ,but colors werent as vivid .... overall one of the best TS's ive seen in a while. AR is a little meh but its workable. sound kicks ass ... 3 cd's i can handle , and lucky me my dvd player plays svcd..

And the rest of u can kiss my ass


Posted by ^Om3n on 05-05-2002 11:59 AM:

ok heres my 2 cents... (only have cd1)


great release, perhaps better as a vcd instead of svcd, but quit complaining its a hell of a ts.

as far as complience goes im not sure, i didn't check, but as said so many times before almost all of centropys releases are fully complient PAL s/vcd. The problem is with your dvd players mpeg2 decoding, or the fact that some look in the wrong place for the video file. i have never had a problem with any of centropys s/vcd's even the few that are not quite exactly s/vcd standard (as far as playing them is concerned)

and to all of you who are complaining that its svcd and should have been vcd, quit ya whining eh. they delived exactly what ppl asked and hinted for in the 'life or something like it' thread, and that was a high quality svcd of the movie

and i aint sucking centropy's balls, like all groups they have there good points and the bad ones, as well as their share of shitty ass releases, but this was a great ts

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Posted by turkey on 05-05-2002 01:54 PM:

ive seen this (all of it not the sample), and there is now way 3cds is needed for a TS. Total waste of 3rd cd. if it wasnt centropy you would be slaying the release groups asses


Posted by phpdood on 05-05-2002 01:58 PM:

Talking

much respect to ftf, hbo or whatever they wanna call themself, i got all 3 CDs... and going to burn them and then watch 'em on my big screen tely... u suckas who dun have dis yet, GET IT it's the best release yet!


Posted by DarklordXP on 05-05-2002 03:41 PM:

Question Whats everybodys problem ???

Hey guys just buy yourself a good DVD-Player not the shitty cheap ones, and u´ll have no problem.

Everybody´s complaining about SVCD. Iam happy with this, bcause they are Great. And if there are 2 or 3 CD´s i really don´t care.

So, Centropy should go on releasing SVCD !!!!!!


Posted by XCheMiCal on 05-05-2002 04:34 PM:

First off I want to say that this svcd copy kicks ass. I been downloading movies for a very long time I'm no newbie.
I just wanted to say a few things first off I'm sick of all this newbies asking why ctp made this svcd and not vcd.
Or why its not good because it won't play for them or that centropy is going to lose people because they are doing svcds.

A)The reason Centropy made this svcd is because it looks much better then a damn vcd this is one of the best svcds I have ever
seen of a "new" movie. And I hope they don't stop just because a bunch of newbies are bitching.

B)If it don't play on your cheap ass Apex too bad buy a new dvd
Player and quit bitching.The only people that are crying about Ctp making this svcd are the people that can't play it.

C) I don't think Centropy will lose that many people if a buch of dumb ass newbies don't like the svcds.

D) And for everyone else that is saying that it was a bad move for centropy to make this svcd and not vcd like before I only have one question for you. Whats the last time you seen a vcd with this kind of quality? (Answer NEVER") So quit your Bitching

Teg-vcd was not even close to this quality people that are saying it was. Are dumb asses that are only looking at the pics watch the damn movie people then talk.

I will say this once again this copy kicks ass I love it I hope Centropy does this for as many movies as they can.and one last thing people quit bitching about the ratio Bottom line this movie
and Centropy own....


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