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Posted by gnosis on 05-28-2002 04:55 AM:

dont worry about GOP settings.
as for the color go to simple or custom color correction in the advanced settings

Posted by Jeff on 05-28-2002 05:17 AM:

hahhahah

quote:
Originally posted by gnosis
i knew it!!!!!

i hope they release this internal!
i have been waiting for this one!!

looks nice xpd

HAHAHAH why do u hope they release it internal? so its twice as hard to find?
lmao n00b

Posted by bithevn on 05-28-2002 05:29 AM:

PAL?!

Is this version also in PAL?

I'm really starting to hate CTP. If it's a re-code of the CTP rls, I hope it isn't. Sure, they're good ... but why the f*** are they releasing all this shit in PAL? My DVD player (Pioneer DV-440) won't even play it!

Okay, I know this shouldn't be the place to rag on CTP.

Posted by dystopian on 05-28-2002 05:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz

obviously you know nothing about encoding... you can very easily take an svcd and make a vcd thats better quality simply by taking out the camera glare thats in all of ctp's releases... svcd does no justice what so ever to telesyncs. if youll look at resident evil and then look at spiderman youll notice its a big fucking waste.

EXACTLY. everyone points at the fact that ctp releases the best TS's, as a rule, and uses that as justification for this SVCD nonsense. But they are forgetting that CTP already was releasing the best TS's, as a rule, when they were releasing in VCD. It's just that, because that is true, they get away with pushing this ridiculous idea that SVCD will make a lower quality source, like TS, better somehow.

The Resident Evil is a good example of a VCD that looked at least as good as these recent SVCD's, and that proves that it's the source & the encode, not the format, that makes the difference with TS's.

In fact, I have seen VCD's that were much better than these SVCD's (vcd's that were capped from TV broadcasts, for instance); which again shows, if the release can not even use the full potential of VCD, why are they bothering with the added potential of SVCD?

Now, I'm not putting CTP down for releasing these movies... they are a quality group, and I'm glad to have their releases. Nevertheless, I do not agree with this decision to create this new catagory of release. It is needlessly inconsiderate of those with bandwidth or volume d/l restrictions, causes more congestion / strain on sites & the entire scene infrastructure, and forces lower retention on sites, pushing older releases off more quickly... all for something that serves no good purpose whatsoever.

IMO, there is potential benefit from using SVCD on SVHS, Digital Television Broadcasts, and DVD ripping. There is NO benefit to using SVCD for VHS, TS, CAM, or analog broadcast television captures.

When you rave about how good their latest SVCD release of (whatever) is, try to gather up enough short-term memory to recall that you were doing the exact same thing when they were releasing VCD TS's, which were better than anyone else's. Do you think that if FTF could simply encode their releases as SVCD, and have them be great TS's, they wouldn't be doing it?

Posted by gnosis on 05-28-2002 06:56 AM:

jeff shut your pie hole you fucking gay smut leecher ill kill you right where you stand, who the fuck are you calling "n00b" you bitch you got 10 posts eat some fucking goat shit and enjoy some left overs

dont be classifying whos new and whos not, i beleive eveyrone has thje right to freedom of speech, maybe not where you are from you damn paki, so stfu befoer you classify anyone

you obviously have no clue what i am talking about, what i mean if you understand english text is that i hope they release this internal, which i was referencing the god damn title dumbass
you thinking you all hardcore hahah

Posted by PenisXX on 05-28-2002 10:26 AM:

if you guys think you can improve glare or blockiness with a reencode, you're pretty stupid. you can change colours a bit, but the rest can be adjusted on your TV as well. And a reencode is always worse than original.

Posted by gnosis on 05-28-2002 03:29 PM:

we dont think we can improve the glare and blockiness with rencode, we just want 3 cds instead of 3 with the same quality of the svcd......
people generally like to customize things themeselves.

so i dont think anyone is stupid, i dont know why i btoher anymore...

Posted by reallyill on 05-28-2002 06:54 PM:

trying to convert

Ok, if anyone could help me out here, I'd really appreciate it. I've reencoded numerous vcd's in tmpgenc before, but I can't even get it to open the mpg files of centropy's release. It always tells me it cannot open or is unsupported. I've tried numerous ways of extracting them from the bin, but none of them seems to create an mpg that tmpgenc will open. If anyone has some insight into this, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks

Posted by Diezel on 05-28-2002 09:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by gnosis
we dont think we can improve the glare and blockiness with rencode, we just want 3 cds instead of 3 with the same quality of the svcd......

3 cds instead of 3

lol

Posted by theBlaze74 on 05-28-2002 10:46 PM:

buy an Apex please

All of you, please go to K-mart and buy a $50 apex, and then delete this whole thread.

The reason why a reader of this forum would buy a DVD player that does not play an SVCD is amazing.

And as far as re-encoding an SVCD in to a VCD to get "better quality" that is simply funny. Ok, fine, you adjusted the contrast. Wow, that's Great!

If you do it for yourself terriffic, but someone re-encoded the first cd of the ctp release, and uploaded it to the ng BEFORE THE ORIGINAL CTP POST WAS EVEN FINISHED!!

The reason for a multi day post, is to cut the bandwidth so that everyone can get it.

That is why this release is internal.

Posted by Hipnotik on 05-28-2002 11:40 PM:

i'm with dystopian, i think it's rediculous that CTP can release fuzzy color fucked movies and call them SVCD's. when i think of SVCD i think of dvd quality, not sync problems or blockiness or anything that comes hand in hand with regular VCD's.
just because they release some highly anticipated titles in top VCD format, they think they are preserving something by encoding in SVCD?

maybe i'm just confused but i don't think that CTP should even be in the same catagory as SVCDs.

Posted by gnosis on 05-29-2002 04:24 AM:

i mean 2 jackass

Posted by nddf on 05-29-2002 05:24 AM:

SVCD is a format not a quality type you jackass. Fucking ignorant newbs will whine about anything. For fucks sake watch the goddamned FTF if nothing centropy ever does is good enough. Good luck finding a group that does perfect in theater releases every release.

Posted by dystopian on 05-29-2002 03:22 PM:

Re: buy an Apex please

quote:
Originally posted by theBlaze74
If you do it for yourself terriffic, but someone re-encoded the first cd of the ctp release, and uploaded it to the ng BEFORE THE ORIGINAL CTP POST WAS EVEN FINISHED!!

The reason for a multi day post, is to cut the bandwidth so that everyone can get it.

That is why this release is internal.

LOL

yeah, it must really piss off all of those CTP members who are uploading their releases to Usenet when that happens

nddf, as i said, i respect CTP and think that they do phenomenal work... the quality & reliability of their TS releases is second to none.

but that doesn't mean that i have to agree with them on this particular issue. i simply do not think that even the best possible TS warrants the use of the SVCD format, and especially not a 3-cd SVCD.

again, VCD's taken from better source material can look better than the best SVCD TS that CTP has ever done. that fact alone is proof enough, to me, that there is no need for them to encode these as SVCD.

Posted by nddf on 05-29-2002 08:28 PM:

As ctp states from their nfo, the Telesyncs come from a DV source. Very high resolution, very big size. They are encoding into svcd to keep more of the resolution so that you get a better picture. Encoding a TS into svcd does not a screener make. I think all you nay-sayers are missing the point entirely. Also groups that steal other group's releases and encode them into a different format are fucking lame and have no place anywhere.

Posted by themikej on 05-30-2002 01:13 AM:

It cracks me up that you *(gnosis) or anyone else would be angry about anything here. This bootleg sub culture thing is pathetic. Its a fucking movie assholes. A movie that you downloaded free, and cost you nothing but bandwidth. The only part you had in this, was a download. Don't take so much credit for your so called contribution. I don't brag about buying Nacho Doritos when I got to Safeway. Isn't this forum for reviewing bootlegs? It doesn't take more then an idiot to download a movie, but it takes less of an idiot to get worked up over nothing. Don't take is so seriously, nobody cares about you, or your so called leech happy unoriginal sub culture.

Posted by Faceman on 05-30-2002 05:42 AM:

i don't care about the bickering, i just like to read it (no comments from me on it).

about the SVCD to VCD re-encodes....in some cases it can improve the source in colour and aspect ratio, but quality..not so much. it can keep the same or even make it worse. if people want this for their own reasons, good for them. no reason to disown it. seems to be enough demand for it. who knows, could be CTP doing it under a different name.

i hear their source is DV, that kinda sucks for them for the reason DV to SVCD is tricky. it's not easy to get the quality you normally can from MPG2 to SVCD or video cap to SVCD.

they release great stuff in great time.

Posted by Metallifux on 05-30-2002 08:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nddf
Encoding a TS into svcd does not a screener make.

Hehe well said Yoda

Posted by bbrain on 06-01-2002 06:36 AM:

i am just sad because i can not find this.. anywhere .. also my dvd player plays svcds.. i just want another version also my cousins dvd player will not play them

Posted by Odaiba2 on 06-01-2002 01:36 PM:

Viewing from different players

Its funny but WINDVD does a very good job in showing most vcd or svcds. In case of StarwarsII and *BRIGHT* recorded pictures, WINDVD is the *BEST*. However, DivX players work just as well and you can adjust the contrast and brightness. I dont understand but Windvd locks thoses controls so you can only watch is *AS IS*.

I think WINDVD for this version is the *BEST* to watch it.

-Odaiba

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