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Posted by dekehead on 03-06-2004 06:03 AM:

Good job by Centropy as usual...

Personally, I cant comprehend the complaints about it being split to 2 discs. Then again, im one to be a stickler for quality. Not being able to confirm this quite yet, but for those whove watched the release, would someone be able to fill me in on where in the movie it was split? At what scene?

Im not worried about the decision, Im just curious.

Posted by porco556 on 03-06-2004 08:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by SycoCowz
anyways, I give this DVDR a 9/10/10, because for some reason the video looks a *little grainy*, if this is an untouched rip, this shouldn't be, but its definitly visible

Well, I just got off the phone with Peter Jackson asking him why my pirated early release of ROTK is so grainy even though it is untouched. Hehe, I am of course kidding...

You are right. The video is not great, but that is not Centropy's fault.

Reason is: Retail movie is only 1 dual layer disc. I am pretty sure it will be also in DTS along with DD5.1 and maybe even French 5.1.

201 (3h21min) minutes long movie in 7.8 gigs. Subtract all the menus and probably 2-3 audio tracks (including the DTS) and you're left with 6 gigs APPROX for the video. 49,152,000kbits for video over 12060 seconds = 4075kbit/sec video.

That is pretty weak for an original retail DVD (especially for a movie of this status). Most DVD-R releases hit about that or close to it.

So long story short, it is even a long for for a *gasp* DVD-9!! But what can you do. I personally am saving myself for the EE.

This is the best release we'll get until either Dual layer burners or the EE comes out!

Joke to others: I GOT A GREAT IDEA

Lets put the EXTRAs AND the MOVIE on one 4.38g DVD-R!!!! j/k of course

: unlikely there'll be a DTS track on the retail. its another selling point for the EE, plus uses up a lot of room.. afaik my standard edition FOTR doesn't have it, and neither does the TTT. could be wrong, but im 99% sure on this one. -pHo

Posted by cream on 03-06-2004 10:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by SycoCowz
anyways, I give this DVDR a 9/10/10, because for some reason the video looks a *little grainy*, if this is an untouched rip, this shouldn't be, but its definitly visible [/B]

Oh yeah, duh. They took a dual layer disc and re-encoded it to fit on two single layers. Duh.

On which scenes is this graininess evident? I certainly didn't spot it.

Posted by SycoCowz on 03-06-2004 04:56 PM:

quote:
would someone be able to fill me in on where in the movie it was split?

It was split after 'the seige of gondor'
disc 2 starts with 'shelob's lair'

quote:
They took a dual layer disc and re-encoded it to fit on two single layers.

the whole point of being 'untouched' is to NOT be re-encoded and in this case just cut the video first half on DVD1, second half on the other

quote:
The retail for the MOVIE is one disk.

This is proved by the fact that the chapter menu on DVD1 lists all the scenes (as if it were on one DVD in real life)

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Posted by village_idiot on 03-07-2004 07:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Muzak
*sigh*

apparently, nfo's are useless to some people. time will bare me out, as the retail MOVIE will be split over 2 disks, with extras on a third or fourth

That may or may not be true, I have no real idea, but I do know one thing... When they release a DVD that is split, they do not make the split in the middle of a scene. Disk 2 starts right in the middle of a scene not even at a shot change. That is one thing that I most commonly protest. Please split them at a transition of some sort, preffed at a scene change, but I'll take whatever I can get. If it bothers me enough, I'll rip it to mpeg and edit it back together. I am glad that they left it as 2 disks, down sampling would have ruined it. To downsample this you might as well go all the way down to SVCD or 1/2 D1, but then the question of WHY?

All in all, this is a fantastic release!! Can't say that enough. Having watched the early telesync, and then the VHS screener, this by far tops them all!

Posted by arama on 03-07-2004 08:32 AM:

own

i just think this release owns
i'll give it

10/10/10

great job centropy

Posted by on 03-07-2004 02:40 PM:

is it just me or does anyone else notice a black line just above the bottom of the picture? possibly a faint one at the top too? only checked dvd 1 so far still have to unrar dvd 2

Posted by aragorn18PU on 03-08-2004 08:26 AM:

Clearing up confusion

Ok, just to clear up a few points.

1) When the full retail release comes out, the movie will only be on one disc. They announced today that it will only be a 2-disc release to come out on May 25th. This should have been obvious when you realize that Centropy split one DVD-9 into 2 DVD-5's.

2) There will be no DTS track on the theatrical release, which this is a rip of. They haven't had any DTS tracks on the other theatrical releases and I don't see them starting now.

3) just_h :: In response to your question, it's probably a problem with your brightness settings. In an anamorphic 2.35:1 movie, there are two sets of black bars. The set closest to the video is actually encoded into the video stream. The second set is added by your DVD player as you're playing the movie. This is, of course, assuming you are using a non-widescreen TV. To fix this you'll need to adjust your brightness settings. I would suggest a calibration disc to do it properly.

Hope this helps everybody.

Posted by Porthos on 03-09-2004 09:10 AM:

Nothing to complain about here...this will tie me over until the retail is released and then the extended edition.

Great to have you back Centropy!

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Posted by bigmouse64 on 03-09-2004 03:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Platinum
Is it possible to merge the 2 discs together so you can burn it on a 8.5GB DVDr when those come out?

Anyway nice and early release. I believe TTT DVDr was released only in May last year

yes it's possible, use DVD Decrypter to rip the DVD to your HD, then use DVD2One to compress it to 4.3GB then do the same with the second disc, then you'll be to burn them on a 8.5GB DVD-R

Posted by Cereal Killa on 03-09-2004 05:29 PM:

Damn, I really want to get this but no, my damn ISP has a limit on how much you can download /month.

Have to wait 'till it has dropped a bit so I'm not going over and going over means speed of regular telephone line 'till it has dropped :lol:

--Cereal

Posted by edesignuk on 03-09-2004 09:03 PM:

WOW! The 2nd disc just completed for me. Still waiting on the first...all I can say it wow, the picture and sound quality is fantastic!!! GREAT release!

Posted by djone on 03-10-2004 12:37 AM:

Has anyone tried joining both dvds into 1dvd while still keeping the menu?...yeah I have tried dvd2one but it doesnt keep the original menu....the reason I ask is not for myself but for a friend. I have copied my copy on a double-sided dvdr. Yeah quality is great...any info will be greatly appreciated...thanks,
David

10/10/10!!!

Posted by DigitalAudio18 on 03-10-2004 01:27 AM:

Wow rotk is loud

I have a 6.1 Dolby Digital EX Home Theater system. the Nazguls need to be toned down, my ear started ringing when they hit minas morgul. Sound is off the hook though, Pellanors field is a blast, espech with the elephants.

Posted by jrob on 03-10-2004 03:25 PM:

I get this message while using dvd shrink fot the first disk. The second disk worked fine. When analyzing the main movie file it says "Failed to open file VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_5.VOB Any thoughts on how to correct this.

Posted by jrob on 03-10-2004 09:18 PM:

I got it fix just renamed the last VOB.

Posted by dekehead on 03-10-2004 10:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jrob
I get this message while using dvd shrink fot the first disk. The second disk worked fine. When analyzing the main movie file it says "Failed to open file VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_5.VOB Any thoughts on how to correct this.

Try using a previous version... I know that's an issue with some later versions of 3.1.x - not exactly sure which though... I personally have never had a problem *knocks on wood* with version 3.1.3...

Posted by billmclelland on 03-11-2004 02:46 AM:

Just joined this with dvd2one and it looks fine on my 32" widescreen, no blocking at all.

Posted by djone on 03-12-2004 01:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by billmclelland
Just joined this with dvd2one and it looks fine on my 32" widescreen, no blocking at all.

yeah same here...did you keep both audios?? ...im still lookin for the option to join both dvds and still keep the original menu...any ideas

Posted by BLUE-NEO on 03-12-2004 09:37 AM:

2 DVDR's is fine with me ...stop being cheap...this movie is well worth it...

No different than the rip that uses 4 cdr's in SVCD...

worth the time and money...

10/10/10

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