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Posted by dw33p on 12-09-2005 08:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Roger
you should stop reading only what VCDQ says, or perhaps read it correctly.

Telesync is done with a tripod and a profesional camera. Cam are shit done with a 300 euro camera.

This said, a "scene telecine" can be easyly done with a Canon XL2 camera and a smaller & flat theater screen. As ignorant as you look with you post, you prolly don't even know, you can do great video with a cheap camera just because of the projector & the screen you actualy filming on. All the color edition and the brightness can be fix using software such as Adobe Premiere.
The PRODIGY release has been taken from KINOFAN release. WICH precises its TELESYNC. in fact, TRUE TELESYNC and NOT TELECINE. a REAL TELECINE will actualy look way nicer then this, also, we all remember that *TELECINE* **caugh** release from PRODIGY with the guy standing up in the screen. ( haha )

and just to let you know, next release from prodigy or nbp or any of these shity bullshit stealer group will be "PROOF" AND they will call it as TELECINE.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8233/proof0025le.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7176/proof0038cv.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9223/proof0010tf.jpg



1) TS *is* cam video with direct audio, dont care how much of a big scener you think you are.
2) A cam is a TS without direct audio, no mather how much money ur ugly cam has costed.
3) TC's can be made on 2 ways. The expensive way, production firms use(d) that to digitalize there (old) movies, and the ceaper way, you can call it a Home TELECiNE machine if you want. Using a different technique as the other TC machine.
4)The PRODIGY release has been taken from KINOFAN release. Kino what?

If *you* dont know what you are talking about, then just shut the fuck up. It are russian PDVD's these groups are using, which are actually TS's (then they usually come from the scene) or TC's (when they have done it thereself, like this release).


Posted by Roger on 12-09-2005 11:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dw33p
1) TS *is* cam video with direct audio, dont care how much of a big scener you think you are.
2) A cam is a TS without direct audio, no mather how much money ur ugly cam has costed.
3) TC's can be made on 2 ways. The expensive way, production firms use(d) that to digitalize there (old) movies, and the ceaper way, you can call it a Home TELECiNE machine if you want. Using a different technique as the other TC machine.
4)The PRODIGY release has been taken from KINOFAN release. Kino what?

If *you* dont know what you are talking about, then just shut the fuck up. It are russian PDVD's these groups are using, which are actually TS's (then they usually come from the scene) or TC's (when they have done it thereself, like this release).




I wish you would have been long enough here to see my previous post about *how to make a telesync*, but i guess as noob as you sound right now you prolly one of those prodigy dicks sucker

part of TELESYNC defenition on vcdquality.com is :

"A lot of the times a telesync is filmed in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, giving a better picture quality."

If you look correctly, or maybe you do some research, the real TELESYNC diferent, but i guess this is too hard for your IQ of 2 to really search what something is.

Also, there is no such things as 2 ways to make a TC, a TC is a digitaly captured source. it is the same thing as if you do digitalisation of negatives THATS digital, not using a camcorder on a screen to capture, not because your camera is digital that made your transfer digital. ALSO ... those ebay box that fit in front of the projector ain't digital EITHER.

You want to tell me i don't know what i'm talking about ? i suggest to check arround the forum you might find some that you never seen before and that will shout your mouth that is prolly as big as you ass being anal raped all day by your prodigy mofo teamates.

This said. good bye


Posted by protekt0r on 12-09-2005 11:39 PM:

quote:
1) TS *is* cam video with direct audio, dont care how much of a big scener you think you are.
2) A cam is a TS without direct audio, no mather how much money ur ugly cam has costed.


LOL. Go tell Centropy and maVen that the only difference between their releases and Hydro's releases is direct audio.

I think they would tell you to get bent.

Like I said earlier, there are other distinguishing factors between CAM's and TS's besides direct audio.

-protekt0r

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Posted by cirr0 on 12-09-2005 11:55 PM:

v- 8.5 a-6 m- 3

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Posted by cherwonk on 12-10-2005 12:13 AM:

How can a group release a flick with such a good pic and such sh*tty sound?I will admit the movie isnt the greatest , but if you've got the video do it right .

9/5/5


Posted by Twisted Nerve on 12-10-2005 01:53 AM:

video quality very good, one of best TC i have seen, better than The Island, a very close 2nd to Unleashed, little cropped

audio is f'd up tho, if watching in surround system, vocal aspect comes from rear speakers mostly

best to disable rear speakers, and use tv speakers only

movie a bit "not as good as it should be"

tN


Posted by DnloderX on 12-10-2005 01:58 AM:

Video - 9
Audio - 7
Movie - 8

The video is great, very clean and crisp picture and doesn't seem to be any cropping at all at least that I noticed. Audio is a little muffled, but overall this is a great release! The movie was pretty good too.


Posted by manal on 12-10-2005 06:37 AM:

as stated before nuked for audio. they ran it bacwards as i have seen in a few past releases (( skeleton key comes to mind )) they have hte front audio in the back speakers. but i just switched hte channeles and it worked fine enough for me. Great picture quality though.


Posted by fakeout on 12-10-2005 06:44 AM:

A review of the XviD release: This is definitely a telecine and a quality one at that. The video is just as good as the Two for the Money TC. The faces look a bit squashed at times but sometimes they look fine so there might or might not be very slight AR issues. Playing it on my PC the audio is also very decent, only issues were a very slight hiss for a second at the start and then at the end credits you lose the English audio and hear some Russian voiceover. But these are minor issues. Thanks Prodigy for this great release.

Oh yeah, but the movie is pretty crap.

V: 8
A: 8
M: 5


Posted by TheVisionaryO on 12-10-2005 08:40 AM:

Great release, Audio could be alot better.

Video - 8.5
Audio - 5
Movie - 7 Not as bad as i thought it would be....


Posted by dontbegay on 12-10-2005 09:51 AM:

in 2 minds as to whether this is the best telesync ive ever seen or just a half decent telecine. the blotchiness right at the start on the dark intro makes me want to say this is a telesync but either way its fucking good.

video - 9
audio - 7 theres no fucking way this is cam audio, the quiet scenes are just too quiet, although i fell asleep about half way through the film.. my only niggle is the hiss, which can easily be killed by cutting the treble a bit.

movie- 2 as said before, i fell asleep half way through, it was THAT good.


Posted by please_dont_b on 12-10-2005 11:08 AM:

Roger & prot3kt0r

So what your saying is that if I took a $200 shit cam into a cinema that had headphone jacks and recorded the video, obviously shit video, and the audio directly from the headphone jack into an audio recorder, and synced it up later, that wouldn't be a TS?

If that is what you are saying, then why didn't any of the PreVail TS's get nuked for cam audio? They all had shitty video.

And you know that is how they got the sound. They don't have axx to theatre discs.

And only a group would screw the video like they have a huge problem of doing.

I should have worded my post better, yes, but the way you guys say it, the video has to be really good quality to be a TS.

And that is where our opinions differ. A TS CAN be better quality, but it doesn't have to be.

I wasn't really trying to be a dick, but it's just the way you worded your post that got me thinking.

I truly believe this is another russian TS torrent they picked up. Fuck it though, it's good enough for me to watch without bitching.


Posted by manal on 12-10-2005 04:33 PM:

please_dont_ban_me .

the audio here is shit because of hte quality. really its shit because of hte way it was encoded with the rear and front channels reversed.


Posted by tdavie on 12-10-2005 04:33 PM:

Stunning quality, crappy movie


Video: 10
Audio: 10
Movie: 1 (would have given it a zero if possible).

You know what Tom Srevo from MST3K would have said about this movie?

'I see your gums a flappin, but there's no sense coming out'.

It's so bad I love it.

Tom


Posted by neozen on 12-10-2005 04:33 PM:

9/8/?

If this is a telesync, then its like the greatest telesync video ever, and should be a 10 for video. The audio is a little hissy in some scenes, but its good enough for me.


Posted by SeeDee_MKII on 12-10-2005 08:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by manal
as stated before nuked for audio. they ran it bacwards as i have seen in a few past releases (( skeleton key comes to mind )) they have hte front audio in the back speakers. but i just switched hte channeles and it worked fine enough for me. Great picture quality though.


Hey manal would you like to paste a quick guide on how you switched the channels. much appreciated as i'm sure a few other ppl would like to know as well

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Posted by me-self on 12-10-2005 09:15 PM:

V: 7.5 (Nice quality, not matter if it is a TC or TS)

S: 7 (Starts off abit weird then it fine after that)

F: 6 (I am not a huge sci-fi person, weren't bad in parts)

I believe this is a TC, a russian one at that, the russian's bring out different TC, some are really nice and some are really bad, I.E harry potter TC ages ago was near dvd quality, the early TC os new XXX which was released by some german groups looked horrible, everyone thought it was a TS but its was a realllyyyyyyyy bad TC. I don't think you can be picky about the release, if it looks good and sounds good why sould it matter if its a TS or TC? just watch the dam film.


Posted by Goturenumba on 12-10-2005 10:18 PM:

Video = 9
Audio = 8
Movie = 8


Posted by SultrySalesma on 12-11-2005 12:15 AM:

V: 9 - Excellent picture. There was one or two parts where it was dark and I was unsure what I was looking at (that blimp thing). Not sure if that is the fault of the TC or movie itself. Other than that, great. No blur, no pixelation, no problems.

A: 7 - Everyone is complaining about the audio. I watched it through VLC on my TV. No problems what-so-ever. I'm use to turning my audio way up, so I didn't notice anything.

V: 1 - Shit. One of those films I'm glad I didn't pay for. Thanks, Prodigy!


Posted by m3h on 12-11-2005 12:53 AM:

i got the xvid release. the video quality of this telecine is great! audio is another story. still havent watched it.

video: 9
audio: 4.5


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