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Posted by [EfX] on 08-26-2002 12:28 PM:

How can some people claim it's a TS when there's a counter?...Correct me if I'm wrong, but the odds of this being a shitty quality Screener was much higher...AND since it has copyright text the issue is over.

Posted by ^Om3n on 08-26-2002 12:53 PM:

Propers are 'supposed' to only be let through if the previous release had some sort of technical flaw. You cannot release a proper on the basis of bitrates/settings, subs, counter/no counter, because its higher quality etc. If it gets through, then the nukers are not doing there job properly.

At least this is how i understand it to be after reading the scene guidlines.

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Posted by Philyteach on 08-26-2002 03:07 PM:

You know, you guys are funny. I mean what the f*ck not only do they have to worry about the real police/fbi, but we're going to send the "scene" police after folks too.

quote:

At least this is how i understand it to be after reading the scene guidlines.

Now admittedly I don't know much about vcds (though I can rip and encode from almost any format to any other) it seems to me that if we treat vcd's like warez you get a better persepective on things. Some releases are better then others, but we don't run around nuking shit just for the fun of it. If it flat out don't work, yeah its nuked. If its missing the in game/ap videos and shit it stays. In other words, if your really want all the bells and whistles either buy it, wait for another group to release it, or do it yourself.

Flame as much as u like cause it don't bother me.

Posted by Diezel on 08-26-2002 05:52 PM:

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exactly Philly,

is free just not good enough?

I think nuking is dumb unless it is just unwatchable, this rls is the best one out there and if you don't like it, don't get it and even if its not the best encoding, for their effort to get this out FOR US, we should be givin them respect


Just rate this rls accordingly, that's what the site is for, but don't degrade the rls or its rlser

Posted by ewfbootlegga on 08-26-2002 05:57 PM:

Definetely the best out there. Watched it last night and completely watchable with good video and sound. Timer didn't even bug me after a few minutes and the black and white thing wasn't a serious issue. I could definetely see myself watching this release again.

Unless they come out with a screener with no property marks and no timer or a dvdrip this is going to stay on top.

VideoCD thanks for coming through. Good things from you and FTF lately.

Posted by VcdGahds on 08-26-2002 07:03 PM:

Quality and other things...

This is a much better copy than any of the others. I would give this a 7/7 where the others were 5/5 at best. The movie is pretty stupid, but it had good action scenes, so I give it a 6.

Far as the question, "To nuke, or not to nuke?" I think this is a question that really can not be answered one way or the other. It is all up to "point-of-view". Sometimes, it seems that a release will get nuked for mislabelling when it is really a close call. This means they felt the quality was such shit that they wanted to nuke it and found a reason. or maybe they just nuke anything from the group because they don't like them. Then there's the technical questions...is there flaws? are there parts missing? is there a counter? or God Forbid...an almost invisible red line that comes across every 5-10 minutes that completely ruins the show for us ?

Here's my 2 cents...and it is ALL opinion as I don't know a single person in the scene anywhere...at least I don't think I do

IMHO...the underlying reason a release is nuked is so people don't waste their bandwidth downloading a shit release. If there are problems in the nfo/cue files, I think people should figure out how to fix them without the release being nuked. If the release is mislabelled, it needs to be nuked by everyone and here's why...let's say they label it a scr and it is really a wp. Then while the quality may be good, it may be missing parts from the actual release movie. Whereas the screener won't be missing anything, or at least it shouldn't be. Also, and I believe this should be in the commandments of every groups nuking policy...ANY RELEASE THAT IS MISSING MORE THAN 1 MINUTE OF THE MOVIE SHOULD BE NUKED. How many of us have sat down to watch a movie only to discover later that 5, 10 or sometimes up to 15 minutes of the show are missing. And I don't give a rat's ass about the credits...I mean inside the movie itself.

So if it turns out this is not a screener, then it should be nuked...not because it is "unwatchable" but because it is misleading.

Posted by MYYZTIK on 08-26-2002 07:44 PM:

Crazy

are you guys kiding me i dont make many post but i have to when i see shit like this.First easy to add timer 2)this is no screener 3)learn what the fuck a aspect ratio is Video CD.Now there lots of room for a great proper of this but ill wait for a REAL SCR.

So Says THE MYYZTIKAL ONE

Posted by The Booker Ma on 08-26-2002 08:12 PM:

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I don't know why you morons are complaining, it's a nice release and is 100 times better than the last ones. And it's free so why complain. Who cares what the hell it is, if the film comes in nice and it does


My time looking for this isn't free, my time spent getting it ins't free, my wasted badwidth that coulda went to playing cs isn't free, maybe for you it is, but for people with social lives it's not.

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Posted by The Booker Ma on 08-26-2002 08:15 PM:

oh yea almost forgot:
6/6/4


Movie sucked ass, so did the lame ass line
"The things i gotta do for my country when he's about to fug that girl" but release was watchable i guess.

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Posted by Philyteach on 08-26-2002 09:05 PM:

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Originally posted by The Booker Man


My time looking for this isn't free, my time spent getting it ins't free, my wasted badwidth that coulda went to playing cs isn't free, maybe for you it is, but for people with social lives it's not.


You are kidding right? Have a social life? Take him/her/the gang to the movies then. Pay 20 bucks for th dvd then and stop complaining. They aint free either.

J.C. you people are unreal!

Posted by gallonFREAK on 08-26-2002 09:52 PM:

Re: .

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Originally posted by Diezel
C'mon! These guys risk a lot of shit and spend a lot of time doing stuff for us, just so we can watch this movie. Even if its a poorly encoded version of the movie, we should give them props for trying (as long as they'renot credit whores :P )

IMHO, it's not a workprint



nobody puts a gun to there heads to do this job!!

and in my opinion if its so much risk and cost them so much money, then why release junk?

this is junk

Posted by Asterisk on 08-26-2002 10:20 PM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by gallonFREAK



nobody puts a gun to there heads to do this job!!

and in my opinion if its so much risk and cost them so much money, then why release junk?

this is junk

You're starting to sound like I_Drink_24_7. If you dont want it, dont get it and shut up. Comment on the quality, not if you think it's junk, assuming you've actually watched it. It's a decent release, mislabled, but decent.

Posted by MrBoogedy on 08-26-2002 11:15 PM:

gay group, not a bad release?

I'll say straight out first off, that I haven't watched this entire release, just the sample. I haven't bothered to download because I'm waiting for a good screener release.

For everyone who says "STFU, and don't download it if the quality is shite", use your heads. Releases like this is one of the major downfalls of the scene (and as i said earlier, I'm judging based on the consensus that this release is NOT a screener, and the quality is nowhere near what screener releases are). Groups like this intentionally mislabel a better quality TS as a screener because they're preying on the stupidity of the average user, which apparently alot of the people who post here are. They lie about their release so that they can get their group's name up in the ranks as being the first group to release a xXx screener. If it weren't for groups like this, we wouldn't need propers, and 14 releases of every movie that waste everyone's bandwidth and time. IMHO, in my internet utopia there is just a telesync, screener, then dvd-rip. Three releases, stop wasting everyone's time.

Well, congratulations, everyone's talking about you guys, it's just too bad that everyone's pissed off that you care more about popularity than bringing quality and truth to the scene. Anyone who defends this release needs to give their head a shake. The quality may be slightly better than previous releases, but I refuse to give props or respect to a group that lies to 'better' themselves.

-MrB

Posted by CrashRoX on 08-27-2002 03:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by [EfX]
How can some people claim it's a TS when there's a counter?...Correct me if I'm wrong, but the odds of this being a shitty quality Screener was much higher...AND since it has copyright text the issue is over.


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Posted by gallonFREAK on 08-27-2002 06:18 AM:

Re: Re: .

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Originally posted by Asterisk

You're starting to sound like I_Drink_24_7. If you dont want it, dont get it and shut up. Comment on the quality, not if you think it's junk, assuming you've actually watched it. It's a decent release, mislabled, but decent.


what are you talking about? wtf is i drink 247 mean? this some foreign language? or you you drink so much you have no idea what you are saying?

this is a bad release and all people on top of the scene know it!

stop staring at jpg's

Posted by Asterisk on 08-27-2002 12:07 PM:

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what are you talking about? wtf is i drink 247 mean? this some foreign language? or you you drink so much you have no idea what you are saying?
gallonFREAK, I_Drink_24_7 was a guy who made a fool of himself in the forums, you his brother?
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this is a bad release and all people on top of the scene know it!
If you're on top of the scene why do you hate all the TCF releases out just now, every post about their releases goes on about how they're not needed, when they're screeners you assclown. Don't you know the difference between a TS and a screener?
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stop staring at jpg's
You're the one saying it's 'junk', the sound is 10 times better than the other releases so stfu and stop commenting unless you've seen and heard it for yourself.

Stop flaming groups and releases, unless they ARE junk.

Posted by Azrael626 on 08-27-2002 04:10 PM:

Re: gay group, not a bad release?

quote:
Originally posted by MrBoogedy
I'll say straight out first off, that I haven't watched this entire release, just the sample. I haven't bothered to download because I'm waiting for a good screener release.

For everyone who says "STFU, and don't download it if the quality is shite", use your heads. Releases like this is one of the major downfalls of the scene (and as i said earlier, I'm judging based on the consensus that this release is NOT a screener, and the quality is nowhere near what screener releases are). Groups like this intentionally mislabel a better quality TS as a screener because they're preying on the stupidity of the average user, which apparently alot of the people who post here are. They lie about their release so that they can get their group's name up in the ranks as being the first group to release a xXx screener. If it weren't for groups like this, we wouldn't need propers, and 14 releases of every movie that waste everyone's bandwidth and time. IMHO, in my internet utopia there is just a telesync, screener, then dvd-rip. Three releases, stop wasting everyone's time.

Well, congratulations, everyone's talking about you guys, it's just too bad that everyone's pissed off that you care more about popularity than bringing quality and truth to the scene. Anyone who defends this release needs to give their head a shake. The quality may be slightly better than previous releases, but I refuse to give props or respect to a group that lies to 'better' themselves.

-MrB



Are you really that fucking stupid? It's a screener, everyone who knows anything knows that it's a screener and give it up. This is exactly the quality of those early TCF and TEG screeners that everyone screamed TC about, but they were accepted just as well, and most of the people to nuke this release were TCF, just goes to show that most people can't accept a little fair competition.

Posted by lo.pro on 08-27-2002 04:40 PM:

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Originally posted by RaPpA
umm its nuked for not being a scr but its from the same source as tcf's mr.deeds and a few others they rlsed...like mike..
i don't think even those two you mentioned are from the same source as each other.

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Posted by MrBoogedy on 08-27-2002 10:42 PM:

gay rip of a screener then

If you truly have to wonder whether or not a release is a screener or a TC/TS or whatnot, then it shouldn't have been released. If this is a screener, then it should be nuked for being a poor rip. Yet another downfall of the scene, they should've taken an extra day to make a good rip instead of rushing. Don't pretend this isn't just going to be propered any day now.

-MrB

Posted by joshuaadams2001 on 08-28-2002 05:43 AM:

hey can anyone email me the .cue files for part 1 and part 2 of this movie.... please.....i really need it....thanks in advance
-josh


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