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Posted by pHo on 04-15-2009 12:46 AM:

All the manufacturers do contrast ratios using different tests, so they're not comparable. Buying a TV purely because the manu lists it as 1000 more contrast is about as sensible as buying a cell phone that says it does standby for a day longer.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 04-15-2009 12:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
All the manufacturers do contrast ratios using different tests, so they're not comparable. Buying a TV purely because the manu lists it as 1000 more contrast is about as sensible as buying a cell phone that says it does standby for a day longer.

Yeah, but that standby can save your ass, LOL.

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Posted by The CandyMan on 04-15-2009 12:58 PM:

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Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
This coming from the guy that knows NOTHING about the subject, but knows cheap. You spend your money on quantity, not quality.

You posted a responce that said you saw a 50in LCD for under a grand, but didn't provide any info, of course NO one is going to listen to what you had to say.

Since you don't know what your talking about you post a crack and try to be funny, Nice try asshole, post some viable info next time.

Lol if you want one that bad drive over to Newark. I saw it on the HHGregg sign, near Indian Mound Mall, this past week while driving past it on the way home from my girl's house which is why I have no clue what model it is. Sign just said '50" LCD - $998" which means it could be any brand. Sorry I didn't make a detour, since i have so much free time, and go into the store to find out all I could on it just to make sure if I was to possibly post anything about it on VCDQ I would know all that there is to know about it and I could meet your oh so important standards.

Got a job yet?

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Posted by pHo on 04-15-2009 02:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Yeah, but that standby can save your ass, LOL.

You don't seem to get my point.

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Posted by Avenue_1 on 04-15-2009 03:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
Buying a TV purely because the manu lists it as 1000 more contrast is about as sensible as buying a cell phone that says it does standby for a day longer.

Didn't see anyone mentioning buying a tv because it's just 1000 more contrast?

And yes, contrast ratio is an important part of the package when buying a new tv.

Posted by pHo on 04-15-2009 03:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Avenue_1
Didn't see anyone mentioning buying a tv because it's just 1000 more contrast?

And yes, contrast ratio is an important part of the package when buying a new tv.

The 1000 was an example, and was posted due to this:

quote:
Originally posted by popabook
From someone that has recently done some research and purchased a Large LCD Television the better quality Televisions have a large contrast ratio, meaning that the blacks are blacker and the whites are whiter. If you narrow your decision down to a few televisions then start looking at the contrast ratio to make your decision.

Contrast ratio is important, but only if compared directly using the same tests. It's hardly a secret that the manufacturers stats when trying to sell electrical equipment is usually BS.

Do side by side comparisons of sets in proper demo rooms, not biased stores like Dixons running on shitty settings, or manu 'facts' to choose your set if you have the time.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 04-16-2009 01:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
You don't seem to get my point.

Actually yes I did get your point, I was just being an ass.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 04-16-2009 01:49 AM:

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Originally posted by The CandyMan
Lol if you want one that bad drive over to Newark. I saw it on the HHGregg sign, near Indian Mound Mall, this past week while driving past it on the way home from my girl's house which is why I have no clue what model it is. Sign just said '50" LCD - $998" which means it could be any brand. Sorry I didn't make a detour, since i have so much free time, and go into the store to find out all I could on it just to make sure if I was to possibly post anything about it on VCDQ I would know all that there is to know about it and I could meet your oh so important standards.

Got a job yet?

You have two HDTV's yet you point out that you saw a sign that says 50in LCD, Hmmmm, Why not tell about your personal experience other than trying to prove someone wrong about the price of 'a' fucking TV.

Maybe because you don't know anything about the TV's you got?

I'll help you out. What model Flat panel do you have? What do you have connected to it? What type of picture quality are you getting? How does HD compare to SD. How many HDMI/DVI ports does it have? Is your TV 1080p/i or is it 720p, knowing you, you bought a 42in 480p Plasma TV.

Do you get any motion problems with your TV? Shit tell us something instead of just trying to prove someone wrong or trying to be a smart ass.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 04-16-2009 01:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
The 1000 was an example, and was posted due to this:

Contrast ratio is important, but only if compared directly using the same tests. It's hardly a secret that the manufacturers stats when trying to sell electrical equipment is usually BS.

Do side by side comparisons of sets in proper demo rooms, not biased stores like Dixons running on shitty settings, or manu 'facts' to choose your set if you have the time.

When I purchased my last 32in crt tube TV, it was clearenced as an open boxed item because the sound was shitty. In the store the TV had a horrible picture. I bought it for the fact it was under $200 and couldn't afford a god damn thing at the time. Bought the tv, and a stand for it. It still has one of the BEST SD pictures I've seen and it was a budget TV. I've had it for well over 3 years and now my mother has it but still puts out a great picture.

I still love the Tube HDTV's, the colors don't pop like some of the higher end LCD's but they do put out a great picture.

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Yes contrast ratio is very important, but you really have to do the side by side comparison or go by 500 reviews on the TV. I purchased my TV from newegg because NO stores in my area had it. Now Micro Center carries Sceptre TV's, before they didn't. I'm overall pleased with my TV.

Does anyone on here like the newer DLP's? My buddy and his wife have a 65in and it looks great but I couldn't tell a huge difference between the 720p WMV file and a store bought DVD. I wonder why? the TV is capable of 1080p. I wonder if it's something to do with the technology.

::EDIT:: I purchsed my flat panel from Tigerdirect not Newegg. The price was the same but the shipping was cheaper on Tiger.

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Posted by wob on 04-16-2009 02:51 AM:

see arthur its a fuking minefield out there

Posted by LOLobo on 04-16-2009 07:18 AM:

*sigh*

Could you just combine your 3 posts into one.

You're not koodo, you can quote and break it down.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 04-16-2009 07:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LOLobo
*sigh*

Could you just combine your 3 posts into one.

You're not koodo, you can quote and break it down.

You're right I could, but I didn't feel like it.

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Posted by Arthur Daily on 04-16-2009 09:49 AM:

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Originally posted by wob
see arthur its a fuking minefield out there

tell me about it.

So i went to my local Tech Street, up n down for about 2 hours.
one store had 3 floors of tv's and and on one floor all the tvs where hooked up to a split HDMI showing a HD loop demo.

Exactly the same sorce, so easy to see how each tv handled the shit.
cut a long story short, i walked away with a 52" 1080p LCD.

MAN, the PS3 looks awesom !!!

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Posted by wob on 04-16-2009 01:30 PM:

nice 1 arthur i couldnt find that kind of setup as you know whilst buying mine and yea the ps3 looks awesome

Posted by pHo on 04-16-2009 01:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Arthur Daily
tell me about it.

So i went to my local Tech Street, up n down for about 2 hours.

TCR ?

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Posted by The CandyMan on 04-16-2009 02:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Arthur Daily
cut a long story short, i walked away with a 52" 1080p LCD.

Now Arthur that's not enough info for Salad, you need to list all the specs and brand damn you!!

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Posted by Ripper on 04-16-2009 07:02 PM:

Now you just need to get a good base unit and some big hard drives and raid em up then grab an external hdd and hook it up and grab all the hd rips that you want, doubt you will watch a dvdr then

Make sure you hdmi your ps3 up for the best effects

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 04-16-2009 10:26 PM:

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Originally posted by The CandyMan
Now Arthur that's not enough info for Salad, you need to list all the specs and brand damn you!!

Yeah, Only if you understood it. Arf is the one buying a TV, again you just post in here to be an ass instead of offering any support. Great job, lol.

Also Arf if there all hooked up to the same source theres going to be a diminishing quality on each TV. You can't really judge that it that way. I would try and preview a local channel, just go during prime time because most if not all your locals should be broadcasting in HD. I know its not always possible to do this.

Dude it's not hard to pick a TV out, Just a lot of research. Forget about the specs for a moment and pick out 5 top contenders and read a hideous amount of reviews on each. You won't be disatisfied.

If your working in a budget, that can make your choices easier. When I got my TV I had a tight budget cause I was getting my car worked on and that cost a bit of money. I bought my TV sight unseen, just read every little tid bit I could on it. Read through the BS of user reviews and decided on the TV I got.

Basically what it comes down to is, You're the one stuck with the TV. Are you going to be happy a year down the road?

Like I said overall I'm satisfied with my TV, despite the flaws it does have. It's still worth the price I paid. The picture quality still beats a lot of TV's in it's price range.

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Posted by Arthur Daily on 04-17-2009 10:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
TCR ?

yes

quote:
Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Arf if there all hooked up to the same source theres going to be a diminishing quality on each TV. You can't really judge that it that way.

yes, they were all hooked up to HDMI and HDMI splitters.
not the best source, but all displaying the same source.

easy to see how each set handled the same shit side by side 'literally'

safe to say, im happy with my new toy,
although the pic from my eurovox (renowned for shit pic) isnt great.
the built in DVT is better, but the ps3 (hdmi) is truly awesome.

flung in the EARTH blu ray and WOW! i saw NO banding or solarization artifacts.
new for me was no ghosting or movement trails with lcd.

standard dvdr (rips) via the ps3 are pretty good and games are
pin sharp.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 04-17-2009 11:06 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Arthur Daily
yes

yes, they were all hooked up to HDMI and HDMI splitters.
not the best source, but all displaying the same source.

easy to see how each set handled the same shit side by side 'literally'

safe to say, im happy with my new toy,
although the pic from my eurovox (renowned for shit pic) isnt great.
the built in DVT is better, but the ps3 (hdmi) is truly awesome.

flung in the EARTH blu ray and WOW! i saw NO banding or solarization artifacts.
new for me was no ghosting or movement trails with lcd.

standard dvdr (rips) via the ps3 are pretty good and games are
pin sharp.

I thought your original post said you walked 'away' from a 52in LCD.

Shit man, which TV did you get? I want details.

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