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Posted by Avenue_1 on 05-02-2009 06:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fionn McCool
I doubt you could call 4% of the British electorate "most British people."


Read what wosp said again, and i agree with it. But i guess as with all parties what they say in their policies and what they actually do, are two different things

You don't understand because you're one of these backwards southern irish chav tarmac types that brown-nose people better than you...now get your nose out of my walnut valve


Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-02-2009 06:09 PM:

If most British people were thinking it, surely they would get more votes. Can you handle this logic or is it a step too far for you?


Posted by Avenue_1 on 05-02-2009 06:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fionn McCool
If most British people were thinking it, surely they would get more votes. Can you handle this logic or is it a step too far for you?


Like i said, you silly backwards irish folk don't understand

Agreeing with some/most of an "extreme" parties policies is completely different to actually voting for said party...comprendhe?


Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-02-2009 06:57 PM:

Oh, what you're saying is, what British people really do is pick a party whose policies they agree with, whose cause they sympathise with and vote for a completely different party instead. We actually do it the other way around here in Ireland so forgive me for getting it wrong.

Also lol at your reasoning that people won't vote for them just because they don't want to be associated with an "extreme" party. Yes, that's the reason champ. The majority of the Bnp's support base is working class and sub class people with little or no education. Do you think they know better than the rest of the British electorate. Are they the only ones who aren't afraid to speak their mind and vote for who they truly want in power?

Can you actually answer this coherently without another completely irrelevant reference to me being Irish. Are you even capable?



PS. I highly doubt Wosp's (and yours infinitely more so for that matter) circle of friends and family" is a fair representation of "most British people."


Posted by Avenue_1 on 05-02-2009 07:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fionn McCool
We actually do it the other way around here in Ireland so forgive me for getting it wrong.



Yep, this is because you are irish. I forgive you


Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-02-2009 07:53 PM:

lol, I didn't think so.


Posted by wosp on 05-02-2009 07:53 PM:

Don't get me started on these immigrant-cuddling "one world" fuckers.

Edit: Fionn from what I see Ireland does not have the issues that are here in England. If the area you grew up in went from about 1% to 90% non-white English over the last 20 years maybe you would understand.


Posted by bartleby on 05-02-2009 07:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wosp
Don't get me started on these immigrant-cuddling "one world" fuckers.


Now what the fuck are you talking about ?

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Posted by wosp on 05-02-2009 08:11 PM:

Read my edit above bartleby. I think that a lot of people who slate the BNP are the people who are not effected much by the tide of immigration that has hit this nation.


Posted by bartleby on 05-02-2009 08:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wosp
Read my edit above bartleby. I think that a lot of people who slate the BNP are the people who are not effected much by the tide of immigration that has hit this nation.


Where exactly is it that you live that has a 90% non-white population , that seems like a huge exaggeration.

TBH I think you have trouble finding statistics that said any one city had less than a 75% white population.

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Posted by wosp on 05-02-2009 08:34 PM:

I used to live in Hounslow and yeah the figures are obviously exaggerated. From my childhood memories of what it was like to what it is now is alarming. I challenge any English white person to walk through the High Street and tell me they would raise a family in that area. That is the reality of it.


Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-02-2009 08:38 PM:

11% of people in Ireland are Immigrants. Whether they are white or not is of no importance to me whatsoever but you are entitled to your opinion.

I am not a "one world" fucker. Looking at it from the outside, I think that Britain immigration policy has been much too liberal. That doesn't mean that If I was a British citizen, I would be unable to see the Bnp for what they are.


Posted by wosp on 05-02-2009 08:55 PM:

I understand that Fionn and I think the BNP do themselves no favours in the way they portray themselves.

IMO the more support they get, the more likely the main political parties will take note and toughen up on their immigration related policies.

Anyway going out now and I will be very fucking surprised if this isn't in the pink-prison when I next check!


Posted by Avenue_1 on 05-02-2009 09:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fionn McCool


I am not a "one world" fucker. Looking at it from the outside, I think that Britain immigration policy has been much too liberal. That doesn't mean that If I was a British citizen, I would be unable to see the Bnp for what they are.



Wow! you're finally understanding, Agreeing with an "extreme" parties public policies and voting for the party are two different things!

Congrats


Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-02-2009 09:28 PM:

Agreeing that Britain's immigration policy has been too liberal does not even come close to agreeing with all or most of their policies. Lol at you not even being able to grasp that. I see the problem here, you are too stupid and ignorant to debate me. Forget about it dude.


Posted by Objectivist Seal Hunter on 05-02-2009 09:35 PM:

Wth is this thread even about?

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Posted by David Cameron on 05-02-2009 09:35 PM:

Fionn did kind of contradict herself there .

UKIP's policies are good too but I don't have a UKIP candidate in my constituency to vote for, or a BNP one for that matter , (not for MP but we had some on the local council ballot ) so I vote for a candidate who has a chance of winning and who's agenda most closely matches my own (I'll let you work out who that is for yourselves)


Posted by Fionn McCool on 05-02-2009 09:45 PM:

No I didn't.

Ok.

The Communist party of Britain.

Policies: The importance of democracy and freedom in everyday life, and the placement of particular emphasis on the freedom of the press and freedom of speech.
The full separation of church and state, with religion treated as an entirely private matter

I assume you agree with these two policies. Does that mean that you agree with all or most of their policies. Does the fact that most people would agree with those two policies mean that the communist party says what most people think?

Use your head please.


Posted by Avenue_1 on 05-02-2009 10:27 PM:

Are you actually stupid or are you arguing just for the sake of it?

The point you are trying to make is backing up mine and contradicting the shite you've been posting. Just because you agree with some policies, doesn't mean you will vote for that party


Posted by Fuckmonkey on 05-02-2009 10:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wosp
I used to live in Hounslow and yeah the figures are obviously exaggerated. From my childhood memories of what it was like to what it is now is alarming. I challenge any English white person to walk through the High Street and tell me they would raise a family in that area. That is the reality of it.


I have to disagree with that, having been raised in a predominantly white area which was as full of chav scum then as it is now it's more mixed - probably around 7:3 I would estimate.

Socioeconomic issues which drive the safety/perception of a neighbourhood have very little to do with race, and more to do with conurbation. In the same way brits going to Spain will often choose to stay in an English speaking area, foreign nationals coming to live here temporarily or otherwise will also flock to their own community for the convenience it provides.

More to the point I haven't seen Spain, Australia, Canada etc lobbying to kick out the English who are coming over there and stealing their jobs/women/alcohol reserves. Is that because it's an issue of disliking skin colour more than race? Without immigrants bolstering our workforce we'd be in a worse position now than we are - and I don't hold with the benefits claiming crap either; I don't know a single person who has come to this country without either a good qualification, a job, or both.


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