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Posted by fateswarm on 01-12-2003 10:24 AM:

If I was vite, I'd made 1CD only for the sake of respecting the 4CD mpeg2 version and being honest my 1CD release would be only for kids with 14 inch monitors and very slow connections.

2 CDs for 3hour movies even with that crappy sound it's still only 900something kbits.

below 1000kbit is unacceptable. only people with 17 inch or below monitors can watch this crap.

on my 22'' that looked like a VCD.

(yes, I checked the actual files, I don't just rant)

Posted by altimas on 01-12-2003 10:45 AM:

Looks fine on a 17.. but if you have over 17" and actually watch movies, dont just download them, buy a video-card with a tv-out. On my 5+ year old Phillips tv(pretty damn good IMO) 27", even TS's look ok. just a bit blurry. But, I suppose if you have a HD-TV, then it may looks like crap.

Posted by desertboy on 01-12-2003 12:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by spanner
7:48 CD1 will not even play in my media players. Crashes them all! Dammit even DivFiX doesn't fix it! Are there any other tools to fix it?

You tried realplayer, plays fine for me in realplayer, not tried any other pc based media player as realone (I don't believe it has any post processing so pictue quality isn't as good as other players but once put through my tv outit's doesn't matter.) my default and it always works for my mp4. My xbox plays it beautifully on my tv, still the pixelation fault but less than a second and the rest of the disk 1 is perfect. Very good not seen postx 3 disk ac3 I think that would be better but this'll do me.

PS played green for me I used xvid avic (four cc changer) to change the cc from xvid to divx and it plays perfectly.

PS If this doesn't work reinstall your codecs and media player, etc.

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Posted by Kid Hash on 01-12-2003 01:28 PM:

I know there are 2 bugs on the first cd (audio sync and those screwed scenes) but is there anything on CD 2?

Posted by Kenned on 01-12-2003 03:40 PM:

Can someone plz tell me what to do so i can get this baby 100 % synched! FIXRUS fix didnt help enough!!

Now do i just have to re-interleave it or with a delay? at what ms is it???

It getting rather frustrating. I dont wanna download the dvd-r fomr IND causs aspect ratio is wrong, the REIGN dvd-r is too big. I JUST wanna fix this

Someone must have figured it out by now?

Posted by backoff on 01-12-2003 06:55 PM:

XViD doenst do this movie justice, I think it is DVD-R or SVCD or nothing, that is just my opinion, and no AC3 sound was a shock... I thought there would be. If you just want to watch it on the comp this is alright, but to watch it on a TV I would definitly get a SVCD release, no XViD.

Posted by The Ironduke on 01-12-2003 09:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by backoff
XViD doenst do this movie justice, I think it is DVD-R or SVCD or nothing, that is just my opinion, and no AC3 sound was a shock... I thought there would be. If you just want to watch it on the comp this is alright, but to watch it on a TV I would definitly get a SVCD release, no XViD.

I find most xvids far better then svcd due to the superior resolution.

Posted by The Ironduke on 01-12-2003 09:33 PM:

just tried the vite nandub fix, then I tried to full process in virtualdub and it still threw an error.

how gay......... how vite

Posted by Pra3t0 on 01-12-2003 09:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by The Ironduke
I find most xvids far better then svcd due to the superior resolution.

XviD's resolution may be higher than SVCD but XviD's lower bitrate encoding causes a lot more degradation to the video. The resulting video looks worse than SVCD. Compare the two LOTR:TTT releases and you'll see TDi's SVCD release doesn't have the artifacting that ViTE's does. The XviD version looks like a string of medium-quality JPEGs whereas the SVCD version looks closer to DVD quality video.

Posted by hunterbick on 01-12-2003 11:02 PM:

Moron

quote:
Originally posted by napalmfuzz
well.. i dont care what kbps the sound is.. fact is vite beat TDi's ass.. the sound is SOOOOOO much better on this divx then on their svcd... and anyone that knows me.. knows it pains me to say that

fucking moron, tdi = vite vite = tdi

:: nope. tdi and vite are sister groups, rather than sharing the same members more than likely. most svcd groups have sister groups who release divx/xvid, they share the vobs.

Posted by The Ironduke on 01-14-2003 07:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Pra3t0

XviD's resolution may be higher than SVCD but XviD's lower bitrate encoding causes a lot more degradation to the video. The resulting video looks worse than SVCD. Compare the two LOTR:TTT releases and you'll see TDi's SVCD release doesn't have the artifacting that ViTE's does. The XviD version looks like a string of medium-quality JPEGs whereas the SVCD version looks closer to DVD quality video.

Thats because its a 3 hour movie on 2 disks dumb ass.

If they had put it on 3 cds (f*ck cds I have a dvd writer and so should everyone else

)

it would be far superior

Alot of 2 hour movies with 1200-1400 video bitrate look well better then the shitty svcd versions.

when you zoom a super VCD to 16:9L on my TV it looks gay

Posted by desertboy on 01-14-2003 05:46 PM:

Right disk 2 wouldn't play in my xbox, fixed the problem. Should sort out any other problems people are having. Load the second part into virtualdub (Ticking the open extended options box which is in the left hand corner of the open file box.) you need to rederive the keyframes. I had to save the audio as a wav then recompress it (Which I did at 224Kbps, makes a 740meg file) tried to use virtualdub vbr mp3 wouldn't load the file nandub wouldn't either. After rederiving the keyframes the avi would load in either it was too late then of course, plays fine on the xbox now.
As for divx Vs. svcd well it's a difficult one. From my own personal experience a 1500kbit divx kicks the ass of a 2000kbit svcd. No wasteful encoding of black bars on widescreen for a start. 2000kbits isn't really enough for mpeg 2.

Mpeg 2 does kick the ass of divx at the high bitrates even 4000kbps+ dvd films are at least 4000kbps normally. Divx performs optimally at the lower bitrates. For me I rip everything unless it's particulay low motion at at least 1500Kbits with full ac3 sound track, for those of us with dvd writers its no need to try and fit it on a cd.

Divx/xvid (I have no preferences to which) gets a bad rep because of all these 1 cd shoddy rips kicking round. Don't blame the codec just because you can't encode.

PS my 2nd disk didn't have any audio sync probs don't know if someone had already fixed it.

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Posted by The Ironduke on 01-14-2003 06:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
Right disk 2 wouldn't play in my xbox, fixed the problem. Should sort out any other problems people are having. Load the second part into virtualdub (Ticking the open extended options box which is in the left hand corner of the open file box.) you need to rederive the keyframes. I had to save the audio as a wav then recompress it (Which I did at 224Kbps, makes a 740meg file) tried to use virtualdub vbr mp3 wouldn't load the file nandub wouldn't either. After rederiving the keyframes the avi would load in either it was too late then of course, plays fine on the xbox now.
As for divx Vs. svcd well it's a difficult one. From my own personal experience a 1500kbit divx kicks the ass of a 2000kbit svcd. No wasteful encoding of black bars on widescreen for a start. 2000kbits isn't really enough for mpeg 2.

Mpeg 2 does kick the ass of divx at the high bitrates even 4000kbps+ dvd films are at least 4000kbps normally. Divx performs optimally at the lower bitrates. For me I rip everything unless it's particulay low motion at at least 1500Kbits with full ac3 sound track, for those of us with dvd writers its no need to try and fit it on a cd.

Divx/xvid (I have no preferences to which) gets a bad rep because of all these 1 cd shoddy rips kicking round. Don't blame the codec just because you can't encode.

PS my 2nd disk didn't have any audio sync probs don't know if someone had already fixed it.

heheh well said, we will convert that little SVCD Monkey

did anyone notice the dark green coloured artifacts staining every once in a while?

this was obvious at edoras when the people are leaving, their is a patch of grass that looks far greener, but for no reason.

atleast thats what my xcard shows

anyone noticed how vite sounds alot like shite

Posted by freaKzter on 01-14-2003 07:20 PM:

Question

virtual dub requires a video for windows /vfw/ compatible codec to decrompess video. DirectShow codecs such as those used by windows media player aint suitable

this is the error when trying to fix it, what am i doing wrong except fixing it like the nfo said.

confusing

Posted by munken on 01-15-2003 12:02 AM:

Yes these green colours are also shown at my television.. every once in a while.. <- and no people its not a codec problem!!

must be a bad encode... DVL should make this with ac3, Internal..

Posted by altimas on 01-15-2003 05:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by munken
Yes these green colours are also shown at my television.. every once in a while.. <- and no people its not a codec problem!!

must be a bad encode... DVL should make this with ac3, Internal..

SHHHH

Posted by The Ironduke on 01-15-2003 08:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by munken
Yes these green colours are also shown at my television.. every once in a while.. <- and no people its not a codec problem!!

must be a bad encode... DVL should make this with ac3, Internal..

certainly is munken.

I would say its more like a wash that hangs around then suddenly vanishes.

doesnt destroy the rip though, although it is poor form from vite.

Posted by desertboy on 01-15-2003 11:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by munken
Yes these green colours are also shown at my television.. every once in a while.. <- and no people its not a codec problem!!

must be a bad encode... DVL should make this with ac3, Internal..

read my posts in this thread to sort out your green woes.

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Posted by The Ironduke on 01-15-2003 06:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy

read my posts in this thread to sort out your green woes.

but its xvid not divx5, and my xcard is a hardware player of xvid.

I think these smart ass froups are using the later updates of xvid rather then the original release.

Posted by altimas on 01-15-2003 09:27 PM:

Im getting the postx with ac3 sound. Will comment on video quality between the two since postx has ac3 so it will sound far superior on my pseudo 5.1 system(4.1+ 2.1.. using 1 chan for center)

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