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Posted by neo_tokyo on 01-10-2003 03:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hest

learn the difference between dvd5 and 9....

lol beside saying that why don't you try to it to me?
as my little little and flawed brain understood a dvd5 dvd was 4.5gb and a dvd9 couldn't be over 9gb..
which in fact wa wrong as the dvd5 is 4.7gb. and the dvd9 only 8.5 acording to this

quote:

DVD-5 | DVD-9 | DVD-10
4.7 GB | 8.5 GB | 9.4 GB
http://www.amtechdisc.com/dvdspecs.htm

i still wonder if there is 10gb dvd yet...
thnaks for underligning my dumbness...

Posted by tsarrack on 01-10-2003 03:32 PM:

From viewing the sample, it looks pretty good to me.....good enough until a retail is available.

I'm just curious, has anyone watched the whole thing? Does it have menus like the nfo says?

Posted by Gville on 01-10-2003 04:05 PM:

You people need to get a fucking clue. You have a near DVD QUALITY copy of one of the most anticipated and watched movies ever and its only been in theatres for THREE WEEKS!!! Yet you still bitch about the quality. It's free!!! Why not write a letter to New Line Cinema explaining to them that you need a copy of the original DVD9 screener because you just can't watch the downsampled one, it's not good enough for you....

Posted by EvilBoB on 01-10-2003 04:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by neo_tokyo

pop-quiz...
can you tell me the name of a dvd movie has 10gb of data?.

Answer : Lord Of The Rings : The Fellowship of the Ring - Extended version
Comes on two DVD9's

Posted by puppydg68 on 01-10-2003 04:29 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides

You really a dumbfuck aren't you? We are not talking about UPGRADING a SVCD to DVD-R, but using the DVD SCR to make t he DVD-R, the same way the SVCD was made. Do you NOT get t his? No one is going from SVCD to DVD-R if the DVD SCR is available to the rls groups. Most people with "common sense" are not saying what is available by some punk ass newsgroups.

Look at the listing here!!!! Or isonews.com, do you see many 2 disc DVD-Rs? NO! Hello NO! ...and lot of them look fantastic, with many not even needing to be downsampled (at all) once stripped of the bullshit extras.

Learn something you noob!!!

You know what you guys are suck arrogant idiots.. If you had read the post properly it you would know that WE are NOT talking about upconverting SVCD, the whole point is the keep the original quality of the DVD-9 that all of these were made from.. AT the point of posting no-one could confirm that this was anamorphic, and confirm that the aC3 was real (some didn't have center or sub).. So The statement of it still remains to be seen if it was upconverted OR downconverted was there. Don't flame people for nothing, I gave very good references and locations of DVD-9 releases on the net. As well as a website with software to split your DVD-9s to 2 DVD-5's. So just because ISOnews and group releases don't list it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.. Go yourself and you can see both raiders of the lost ark and aliens are being posted DVD-9 right now. And for most cases, DVD-9 rips are only around 5-6GB for the movie. This is a DVDR group I would have figured the people participating know a little about DVDR..

Cheers to the release, it's a great release.. if nothing better come so be it. But I know there are many others here who would be very happy to see a DVD-9 release of this.. Those would wouldn't be happy, don't download, and keeps kind of useless to compain about something higher quality being released doesn't it?

Posted by TroLL417 on 01-10-2003 04:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ScabbyDoo
while you are all complaining and whining remember this.

it's free...

agreeded FREEEEEEEE and its a good release no reson to bitch at all

Posted by JayTray on 01-10-2003 05:15 PM:

No Menus and 5 chapters

No, there are no menus and only 5 chapters. Quality is not blurry and audio says 5.1 Dolby Digital. Looks good to me. 2 DVDs would be a total waste for a DVD Screener. I doubt that the actual Screener itself was 2 DVDs, so quit bitching all you maggots who haven't even d/l'd the image file yet. Download the SVCD if your so worried about wasting bandwidth or it being a recode from SVCD, or wait for the Retail DVD to come out.

Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 05:44 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by puppydg68

You know what you guys are suck arrogant idiots.. If you had read the post properly it you would know that WE are NOT talking about upconverting SVCD, the whole point is the keep the original quality of the DVD-9 that all of these were made from.. AT the point of posting no-one could confirm that this was anamorphic, and confirm that the aC3 was real (some didn't have center or sub).. So The statement of it still remains to be seen if it was upconverted OR downconverted was there. Don't flame people for nothing, I gave very good references and locations of DVD-9 releases on the net. As well as a website with software to split your DVD-9s to 2 DVD-5's. So just because ISOnews and group releases don't list it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.. Go yourself and you can see both raiders of the lost ark and aliens are being posted DVD-9 right now. And for most cases, DVD-9 rips are only around 5-6GB for the movie. This is a DVDR group I would have figured the people participating know a little about DVDR..

Cheers to the release, it's a great release.. if nothing better come so be it. But I know there are many others here who would be very happy to see a DVD-9 release of this.. Those would wouldn't be happy, don't download, and keeps kind of useless to compain about something higher quality being released doesn't it?

GET THIS: NO ONE IS GOING TO DO A 2 DISC DVD-R OF IT, so STOP CRYING AND WHINING FOR ONE!!!

The single-disc DVD-R (DVD-5) will DO JUST FINE until the RETAIL - live with it!!! It is a BOOTLEG, for christ's sake!!!

Now you guys want perfect quality from a bootleg? GET FUCKING REAL!!!

Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 05:47 PM:

Re: No Menus and 5 chapters

quote:
Originally posted by JayTray
No, there are no menus and only 5 chapters. Quality is not blurry and audio says 5.1 Dolby Digital. Looks good to me. 2 DVDs would be a total waste for a DVD Screener. I doubt that the actual Screener itself was 2 DVDs, so quit bitching all you maggots who haven't even d/l'd the image file yet. Download the SVCD if your so worried about wasting bandwidth or it being a recode from SVCD, or wait for the Retail DVD to come out.

Agreed!!! Damn noobs whining about a 2 Disc DVD-R to maintain perfect quality on a bootleg??? Is that a JOKE?

Grabbed it, didn't patch it (since I am NTSC region), and it booted fine in Pioneer, no issues. Like you said, no menus, and only a handful of chapters. Didn't watch whole thing yet, will do later.....Picture quality looked excellent, and seems true 5.1, not that recreated 5.1 on the PDVD.

Posted by ScabbyDoo on 01-10-2003 06:34 PM:

anyway time for my review.

Sound.

when i first listened to the sample the sound really blew me away. the sound is perfect and 5.1 Dolby Digital is greatly appreciated.

Video

video is Very good, better tahn the svcd. the quality will suite me until the DVD Retail is out.

about 2 DVDR's if the retail comes out at 2 dvdr's so be it. but if you really like the movie you should really think about buying this on retail. its one of many films that deserve your money. and the advantage of it all being on 1 disk rather than 2 will be great and i would gladly pay for that.

Posted by Ibegoat on 01-10-2003 07:47 PM:

wow... can't believe it is here already...but I have so much trouble finding dvd-r's..anyways I did find a sample and it looks great, and for those of you who are bitching about 2 DVD's need to go and play this on your tv... there would be not much of a quality difference unless u pay thousands for a HDTV..I'm out

-GoaT-

Posted by Mr_Grinch on 01-10-2003 07:51 PM:

Just a point (Don't know if it's been mentioned yet) but the special edition of Fellowship came on DVD's and you've got to remember that commercial discs are bigger than dvd-r's! But to be fair that release also had on about 6 different commentaries. But I (For a change) agree with the people bitching. THe point of dvd-r releases is not so you don't have to get off your lazy arse and swap the disc, it's for improved quality. And if 2 discs is the way to go then fair enough.

Also, I'm very ill.

Posted by huntdubie on 01-10-2003 08:01 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by PaulAAtreides

GET THIS: NO ONE IS GOING TO DO A 2 DISC DVD-R OF IT, so STOP CRYING AND WHINING FOR ONE!!!

The single-disc DVD-R (DVD-5) will DO JUST FINE until the RETAIL - live with it!!! It is a BOOTLEG, for christ's sake!!!

Now you guys want perfect quality from a bootleg? GET FUCKING REAL!!!

what's wrong with you guys? get so angry over a stupid little conversation about DVDR's and LOTR on a forum. It's sad....

by the way, paul, someone will release a two dvd ttt bootleg. just look at all the releases we have so far of just a TS and now two DVD SCR... it's inevitable

Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-10-2003 08:38 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by huntdubie

what's wrong with you guys? get so angry over a stupid little conversation about DVDR's and LOTR on a forum. It's sad....

by the way, paul, someone will release a two dvd ttt bootleg. just look at all the releases we have so far of just a TS and now two DVD SCR... it's inevitable

Don't hold your breath. Did you even BOTHER to look at the list of DVD-Rs here? How many are 2 Disc DVD-Rs?

It is a WASTE of time. If you want PERFECT quality, wait and buy the retail - geeze!

Posted by dotmusik on 01-10-2003 09:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ibegoat
wow... can't believe it is here already...but I have so much trouble finding dvd-r's..anyways I did find a sample and it looks great, and for those of you who are bitching about 2 DVD's need to go and play this on your tv... there would be not much of a quality difference unless u pay thousands for a HDTV..I'm out

I agree mate. Best release yet!

I dunno why ppl are giving it 8 for audio and sound, definetely atleast 9, but I'm going for 10/10/10

Get it! Its worth it!

Posted by Lord_Sauron on 01-10-2003 11:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gville
You people need to get a fucking clue. You have a near DVD QUALITY copy of one of the most anticipated and watched movies ever and its only been in theatres for THREE WEEKS!!! Yet you still bitch about the quality. It's free!!! Why not write a letter to New Line Cinema explaining to them that you need a copy of the original DVD9 screener because you just can't watch the downsampled one, it's not good enough for you....

LOL

Funny to think of someone writing or calling New Line...

Anyway, thx for the CLEAR info about this release...

Posted by ScabbyDoo on 01-11-2003 12:39 AM:

i doubt that there will be a 2 disk DVDR proper and/or internal.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with the quality of this rls. and i dont think any group is gunna waste there time whiney little assholes. they will save 2 disk rlses for the Retail version come on this is jsut a sreener. its got watermarks and using 1 dvdr is ok by me for a scr but 2 would be suicide considering i use DVD+R medi and you have to pay through the balls for it.

Posted by Moonshiner on 01-11-2003 12:44 AM:

Pretty good release

This is a genuine DVD-screener, and yes -the quality is about 70% that of the original screener DVD. But what do you expect? This is a 3-hour movie crammed onto space meant for no more than 2. Even with lower bitrate, you can notice hardly any artifacts. Only with real small objects.

Still the superior resolution over SVCD makes this release better than any SVCD of this release we've seen before. You can tell me what you want! 2.8 GB worth of SVCD is nothing compared to 4.3 GB of DVD. The bitrate is still higher. So before you start flaming me for being right, engage your brain before you engage your mouth, ok?

Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-11-2003 01:39 AM:

after

after watching quite a bit of the dvd-r, I think iND did an excellent job.... of course it is not perfect, but it looks hella nice and sounds great!

Congrats and MUCH THANKS to iND for the DVD SCR DVD-R, and the QUICK release of it

Paul

Posted by Jc100 on 01-11-2003 04:04 AM:

I know this release is a dvdr, is it any better than the svcd? is the sound corrected and is it true stereo not that shit that sounds so low u gotta amp your stereos to max to hear? Im wondering, if this is a better download and worth a re-encode to svcd myself. I love the pic on svcd sound was to low though.

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