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Posted by Sarge Bee on 06-03-2003 01:46 AM:

It is region free, but the TV mode is PAL.

Posted by pHo on 06-03-2003 04:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by velocity3k
The one thing that still bugs me is why if they used a DTS track as source not just stick it as DTS on the DVD rather than DD5.1.

not as simple as that im afraid, dts uses up a HUGE amount of room. up to 1gb in places (hence not many dvdr releases containing the DTS track, and if they do the video is usually downsampled) sometimes the dts track alone will take up 1gb instead of a few hundred mb like dd5.1

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Posted by Lord_Sauron on 06-03-2003 05:55 AM:

Pretty good...menu was a surprise since no one mentioned it....

I burned someones self-made DVDR about a week ago, this is better... no disc change overlap...and video is noticeably better

7.5 / 9.5 / 9

Too bad they couldn't put in the Revolutions trailer...maybe convert it from the video game version...and stick that in the menu somewhere...

Anyway, great idea and execution...will be watching this for awhile...

the reason I say that is this, am I the only one who thinks they'll wait to release this on DVD(retail) until next spring at the least...maybe a complete box set...or at least dual set with part III? Just a thought.

Posted by lax01 on 06-03-2003 07:40 AM:

no way, people are expecting the retail dvd by early to mid October...like a month before Revolution comes out...

maybe a nice 4-disc boxset for Christmas (MAYBE)

as for my review, I finally got it all and watched it today->

First off Audio:

The absolute best thing of this entire release. The 5.1 sounded great, almost professionally done. Great use of surrounds and the bass hit hard and deep. My only complaint is that on that some of the yelling scenes, the voices distorted when they raised their pitch. Very minor annoyance that doesn't even remotely change my mind about this release. Great Audio, I wish more groups would release 5.1 tracks (even thoughI know it is hard to find good source material). Good job Centropy, you guys broke new ground in this aspect.

Second Video:

I have gotten about 3 or 4 releases of Reloaded and this is probably the best video I have seen (well obviously, considering it's a PDVD)...Now, comparing this to the SVCD, I don't notice any huge improvements...its slightly smoother but there aren't that many other differences. Color is slightly washed out in some scenes and some scenes are too dark but, its a TS, what can you expect? I didn't notice any angle at all on this release. None, I don't know what video you guys are looking at but this release doesn't have any angle. Oh, and I wish Centropy wouldn't crop there releases because I like to watch the "entire" movie...

Conclusion:

If you have the time, bandwith and a 5.1 system, get this release.

also, anybody wanna let me borrow a DVD burner because I have 4.5 GBs sitting on my HDD which I can't get rid of now

and I watched it through the TV-out of my laptop and the SPIDF...

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Posted by Paula on 06-03-2003 05:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lax01

also, anybody wanna let me borrow a DVD burner because I have 4.5 GBs sitting on my HDD which I can't get rid of now

hehehehe, very cute lax01.... btw, I have a friend selling his sony burner for cheap ...if interested message me.

that was funny, lol

Posted by velocity3k on 06-03-2003 06:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by lax01
no way, people are expecting the retail dvd by early to mid October...like a month before Revolution comes out...

maybe a nice 4-disc boxset for Christmas (MAYBE)

From sources at WB Studios:

quote:

QUOTE:
Matrix Reloaded has a tentative date of 10/3/03.

The following gift sets:

• The Matrix : Reloaded Gift Set
• The Matrix : Reloaded / Revisted 3 Pack

are set for November 2003.

I'd a guess a 4 pack would come in March / April 2004.

Posted by Phantasm on 06-03-2003 09:25 PM:

Very impressed. I'm waiting for my DVD burner to arrive tomorrow so i've not yet seen it for real on my standalone but from what i've seen on my pc it looks awesome.

This should definately keep me going till a dvd release comes along. Its really gonna be a struggle to keep up with releases if this takes off though. Its a big jump in file sizes for me.

Posted by pHo on 06-03-2003 10:03 PM:

quote:
I have gotten about 3 or 4 releases of Reloaded and this is probably the best video I have seen (well obviously, considering it's a PDVD)

enough of the conspiracy theories please, k.

quote:
Oh, and I wish Centropy wouldn't crop there releases because I like to watch the "entire" movie...

err most films in the theater are letterboxed, so is this release. if its missing anything, it wont be much, certainly a lot less than a full screen zoom would be (unlike the fullmatte movies that centropy released in bruce almighty, which is a totally different thing i can't be bothered to explain for the 100th time)

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Posted by Depi on 06-03-2003 10:59 PM:

There is a very little cropping, its a little bit noticeable but who cares, this rocks!

Posted by blahblubb on 06-04-2003 02:09 AM:

finally got a hold of it ... im very impressed ... if its at all cropped it isnt much ... sound is perfectly clear (as expected from tgsc) (both languages btw) ... the picture is very good little to no problems with dark scenes as it seems from skipping through it a bid ... slight problems with too bright scenes but nothing much almost no flickering .. no angle (maybe tilted 1-5° not sure about it thoug) ... if you dont watch your stuff on anything better than a pal tv theres almost no more need for a real dvdrip ... all in all the best ts ive seen yet ...

concerning dvdr telesyncs ... if they are english + german and have this kind of video keep em coming ...

and concerning pal ... of course its pal the video source is pal so converting it to ntsc would cause a loss of quality (and would be a total waste of time) ...

Posted by lax01 on 06-04-2003 04:27 AM:

quote:
enough of the conspiracy theories please, k.

Esoteric
FTF
APM
Centropy (SVCD)

I had those four, I only watched the SVCD but I watched alittle bit of those 4....

you confuse me pHo

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Posted by pHo on 06-04-2003 05:17 AM:

so if i wasn't referring to the amount of copies you had watched, which part was i referring to

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Posted by conartist2k1 on 06-04-2003 06:08 AM:

hey... nice reviews here... the svcd format was aryte... except i had to convert it to ntsc... that was a pain... hahaha took like 12 hours... and here's an idea to people without a dvd burner: convert to svcd... shouldnt take more than a day to do that :-D

Posted by lax01 on 06-04-2003 07:36 AM:

damn you pHo

and conartist: why would we do that? If we already have the 3 SVCD that centropy originally released...I might make a XVID with AC3 rip from the DVDR...that would probably take a long time though....

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Posted by krazyfoo on 06-04-2003 03:37 PM:

i was skeptical at first... but i saw this as more of a historic scene release..... so i grabbed it... but im very impressed... the video... i think... is better than the svcd... as there was no room for any loss on conversion.... and the sound is excellent.

german 5.1 isnt very useful.. but boy does it impress the ladies

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Posted by pHo on 06-04-2003 04:04 PM:

im surprised they didn't make more of a fuss about the video in the nfo cos i presumed it would be the original svcd video, but im presuming its been reshot (rather than the angle "fixed" somehow)

looks nice, sounds great, can't argue. october for the real thing? nice, i'll save my rupees.

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Posted by blahblubb on 06-04-2003 05:16 PM:

from comparing the svcd to the dvdr it looks alot like they have done what tgsc usually does with ctp releases ... strech the picture to get rid of the jay lenno filter the bottom side of the picture is exactly the same but theres a lot less on the top ... suggesting its the same source only cropped quite a bit more ...

is it just me or dose the higher bitrate help the problem with double motion blur pixelation quite a bit?

Posted by masop on 06-04-2003 05:57 PM:

Matrix Reloaded Telesync DVDR

quote:
Originally posted by Paula

It is region 1.....it is region 1 will pal header and pal video....(silly)....

I edited the .ifo files to change the header to NTSC so my samsung would at least attempt to play it, and that worked for my samsung...

goodluck..

Hi. I read your post stating you changed the header from pal to ntsc so that your samsung player would at least attempt to read the movie. I burned the movie *as is* using nero after extracting the files in the original IMG file. It burned fine but my RCA 5240P would not read the dvd. It said no disc.

I tried changing the settings within ifoedit in both IFO files from pal to ntsc but nero failed to burn the disc. I burned the first attempt using the option "DVD-ROM (UDF)" in nero. Is there something I didn't do or did wrong that I could fix to get this thing to possibly play on my ntsc dvd player? It plays pal vcd/svcd discs fine on cdr discs.

Ideally could you point me to the exact settings you made and to which ifo file(s), in order for your samsung to read the disc. I realize the method isn't guaranteed but I am willing to give it a try. I am using dvd+r discs which work for other dvdr movies i have burned, though they were ntsc encoded. Thanks for any further insight to this.

MaSoP

Posted by Paula on 06-05-2003 05:22 AM:

Re: Matrix Reloaded Telesync DVDR

quote:
Originally posted by masop

Hi. I read your post stating you changed the header from pal to ntsc so that your samsung player would at least attempt to read the movie. I burned the movie *as is* using nero after extracting the files in the original IMG file. It burned fine but my RCA 5240P would not read the dvd. It said no disc.

I tried changing the settings within ifoedit in both IFO files from pal to ntsc but nero failed to burn the disc. I burned the first attempt using the option "DVD-ROM (UDF)" in nero. Is there something I didn't do or did wrong that I could fix to get this thing to possibly play on my ntsc dvd player? It plays pal vcd/svcd discs fine on cdr discs.

Ideally could you point me to the exact settings you made and to which ifo file(s), in order for your samsung to read the disc. I realize the method isn't guaranteed but I am willing to give it a try. I am using dvd+r discs which work for other dvdr movies i have burned, though they were ntsc encoded. Thanks for any further insight to this.

MaSoP

Heya ..I just changed the first header lines in both .ifo files using Ifoedit to NTSC, and Ifoedit asked to change the .bup files, and I AGREED to that.....I saved under "slightly different" file names, then I took the 4 new files (2 new .ifos and 2 new .bups) and moved them into the video_ts folder ....I moved the old ones out, then renamed the new ones to the correct names.....

I burned using Prassi PrimoDVD on Pioneer 104.....burned as a "data disc", nothing else.....and Samsung 5-Disc Changer likes it, and plays it correctly.

Note: Apex doesn't care for the header change, and plays the modified version but with aspect ratio off. So have 2 versions now - unchanged pure PAL (for Apex), and modified .ifo/bup files for Samsung ....

goodluck...

Posted by pHo on 06-05-2003 04:18 PM:

Re: Re: pal dvd???

quote:
Originally posted by Paula

It is region 1.....it is region 1 will pal header and pal video....(silly)....

err, my region checker says its all regions (1 thru 8) so its not region 1 exclusively... dunno where you got that from.

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