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Posted by Red0ut on 12-11-2005 01:35 AM:

v - 9
a - 6
m - 6 (not a very good movie, but a very good message in the end of the film.)

Posted by bartleby on 12-11-2005 02:16 AM:

seems some of you are getting confused !!!!!!

The term Telecine is also used to refer to pirated releases of films created by digitally scanning a physical film print, as opposed to recording the projected image with a video camera. The quality of a Telecine release is better than a Telesync, but not as good as a DVD rip.

so !!! that was a telecine
and a telesync ?

Precisely telesync means a copy which was shot in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, directly connected to the sound source (often FM audio provided for the hearing-impaired, or from a drive-in theatre synched to a cam). google doesnt take long does IT ?

thats what vcd quality said too isnt it ?
no matter how good or bad picture quality is !!! it is what it is "!"

video = 8 not the best telecine but not the worse
audio =7

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Posted by Crazyglues on 12-11-2005 02:26 AM:

Are you kidding me..... you can't be serious

Are you kidding me, this is an unreal copy... I mean picture quality is so good I didn't know if this was the dvd, I had to go back and double check.... It's unreal.

10- for a telecine/I don't see how you can get better then this....

9.5- sound was fine for me and it's on 1 file xvid. unreal....

8.5- movie was ok answered alot of stuff the cartoon, I felt never did...

Again if this xvid copy is the one you have then welcome to heaven... I usually only keep dvdrips but for this one I have to make an exception... amazing job amazing....

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Posted by Roger on 12-11-2005 03:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bartleby
seems some of you are getting confused !!!!!!

The term Telecine is also used to refer to pirated releases of films created by digitally scanning a physical film print, as opposed to recording the projected image with a video camera. The quality of a Telecine release is better than a Telesync, but not as good as a DVD rip.

so !!! that was a telecine
and a telesync ?

Precisely telesync means a copy which was shot in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, directly connected to the sound source (often FM audio provided for the hearing-impaired, or from a drive-in theatre synched to a cam). google doesnt take long does IT ?

thats what vcd quality said too isnt it ?
no matter how good or bad picture quality is !!! it is what it is "!"

You have to be FUCKING IDIOT to make a shitty video if you have EMPTY THEATER AND PROFESIONAL CAMERA.

and no, scene telesync are crap cams, made with crap devices, with not empty room not into a empty theater. AND RUSSIAN SHIT AREN'T DIGITALY CAPTURED BUT MADE AS A REAL TELESYNC SHOULD BE. INTO A EMPTY ROOM WITH DIRECT RUSSIAN AUDIO ON WITH A PROFESIONAL CAMERA. probably a panasonic 24p.

Posted by protekt0r on 12-11-2005 04:52 AM:

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Originally posted by please_dont_ban_me
Roger & prot3kt0r

So what your saying is that if I took a $200 shit cam into a cinema that had headphone jacks and recorded the video, obviously shit video, and the audio directly from the headphone jack into an audio recorder, and synced it up later, that wouldn't be a TS?

If that is what you are saying, then why didn't any of the PreVail TS's get nuked for cam audio? They all had shitty video.

And you know that is how they got the sound. They don't have axx to theatre discs.

And only a group would screw the video like they have a huge problem of doing.

I should have worded my post better, yes, but the way you guys say it, the video has to be really good quality to be a TS.

And that is where our opinions differ. A TS CAN be better quality, but it doesn't have to be.

I wasn't really trying to be a dick, but it's just the way you worded your post that got me thinking.

I truly believe this is another russian TS torrent they picked up. Fuck it though, it's good enough for me to watch without bitching.

Very strictly speaking you're right. If the audio in this is CAM audio, then it is a CAM. However, in my opinion (which doesn't matter), there's a big difference between this and a CAM. I have yet to see a CAM that's watchable (again, in my opinion). I just don't bother with CAMs.

To me and a lot of other people, there are major differences between CAMs and a TS besides audio.

As for "groups" pirating this stuff... it just doesn't happen that way anymore. Nearly every TC (and some TS's) are just a russian silvers. So I don't give any props to Prodigy or anyone other russian group. The only groups deserving of respect around here (IMO again) is maVen, ORC, and DVD screener groups. Those guys are the ones will balls and risking their tails. Do I appreciate what Prodigy does? Absolutely. But make no mistake, if Prodigy were to quit another Russian group would pick up the slack. The same can't be said for REAL homemade TS/CAM groups like Centropy. To this day no one (IMO) has matched Centropy's quality in TS's.

This post will be prolly get me banned but oh well. Prodigy risks almost nothing releasing stuff. The only advantage they have is a fast link and access to Pre's. Big frigin deal. Seriously, how hard is it to buy/steal a silver and re-encode to DIVX, SVCD, whatever and upload it? And before you say Prodigy isn't a silver release group, then why in the hell is there such disparity in their release quality? Same w/ NBP. Logic would dictate that if they did their own TC's they would look all the same (or at least very similar). The last 2 Prodigy "telecines" have been nuked for being mislabeled TS's. All they do is watch these silvers and guess as to whether it's a TS or TC, RAR it, and upload it. Because their frigin retards, they usually get it wrong and tag it as a TS. OK, I'm getting off on a tangent here so I'll just shuddup now.

The last real telecine I saw was Two for the Money by NBP. Still a Russian silver probably, but it was the real deal. If a release is truly a telecine, you should barely be able to tell the difference between it and a DVD rip.

Anyhow, sorry for being so defensive and rude. Didn't mean to come off that way.

P.S., I still think this is a telesync. :-)

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Posted by protekt0r on 12-11-2005 04:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bartleby
seems some of you are getting confused !!!!!!

The term Telecine is also used to refer to pirated releases of films created by digitally scanning a physical film print, as opposed to recording the projected image with a video camera. The quality of a Telecine release is better than a Telesync, but not as good as a DVD rip.

Analog telecines do exist and are wildly popular because they are cheap.

-protekt0r

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Posted by pjfan0281 on 12-11-2005 08:02 AM:

video is great. audio is a little weird. i had the same issue as someone before. when played in surround sound system, all the audio came from rear speakers only. had to hook my player directly into tv and avoid surround system altogether to watch it, weird. anyone sound is def not cam.

video - 10!
audio - 7
movie - 6 (interesting, but not enough)

Posted by charliechan10 on 12-11-2005 02:27 PM:

V/9
A/8
M/6
If you complain about this release go see a doctor to check your pee brain out,no release of this movie gets near the quality of this one.

Posted by Stackato on 12-11-2005 06:50 PM:

Audio was not that hot though.. Video near perfect.. Charlize was looking fine! v-9 au-5 m-7

Posted by Yomanda on 12-12-2005 10:05 PM:

Video 8
Audio 6 (Tin can audio, no bass)
Movie ?

Thanks Prodigy (my fav band as well )

Posted by SleepysHell on 12-13-2005 03:55 PM:

nice release
thanks
9/5/6

Posted by White Rabbit on 12-17-2005 04:48 PM:

i thought this was close to the telecine of the island, excellent colors and no pixelation.

v 9 (excellent for a telecine)

a 7.5 (pretty good)

m ? (yet to watch)

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Posted by on 12-19-2005 06:45 PM:

Video 9 - awesome quality, doesn't get much better
Audio 8 - also spot on
Movie 6 - not a huge fan

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Posted by CCkid on 12-22-2005 05:38 PM:

Strange film but I enjoyed it alot. Video is excellent. Audio is almost bass free and a bit tinny. Thanks for the release!

V-9
A-6.5
M-8

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Posted by dukenukem on 01-28-2006 11:20 AM:

YEEEESSSS!

Nice job. Gives reason to have great hope in releases by them. Looks great. Really!

Video - 9.5
Audio - 7 (headphones w/ EQ helps, though)
Movie - 8

Keeping your standards high is key. Thank you!

Isn't what's her name awesome in this film or what?? And she was "Monster" (see that film and compare)? Damn! What an actress!

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