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Originally posted by baha
No interest in the vitriol in this thread, but you're either naive or new to IMDB if you're not aware that in the last couple of years it's started to become a very poor measure of the quality of a new movie. Be it fanboydom rushing to rave about a movie, or, more likely IMO, studios finally acknowledging the impact that IMDB can have on box office and 'influencing' the ratings to get ticket sales, new movies are always overrated.

Check my post in the No Country For Old Men thread where it was #14 within the first week of release. http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78675 It's at #99 now and will continue to slowly slide. Or check your own post in the Iron Man thread: you state #99, it's now #160. It's virtually the same for all blockbusters that are released. Am pretty sure The Departed was in at #4 before dropping down. However, a movie making the top 250 at all is a pretty good indicator that the movie is worth seeing. I've never seen a movie in straight at #1 with such a volume of votes before though (I've been using IMDB since the late 90's when it was acquired by Amazon, the company I worked for then was involved in a knowledge base project for Amazon).

And it is a justified entry. TDK exceeded all my expectations. The story was tight, brilliantly written, the characters were superbly developed - the Joker for example, we know nothing of his history (in this movie), but from conversations, sometimes anecdotal (such as Alfred's jungle bandit), the burning of the cash, his conversation with TF (in the hospital, where he says plans aren't his thing, he just wants to mess with order and establishment), his two versions of how he got his scars (lying to people for no reason/gain), his versions of Cruise's "You complete me", we gradually know everything we need to about him - the sheer brilliant pacing, the flaws in the characters (everything that I know to be the contradictions in Batman, Bruce Wayne's belief that Rachael will choose him, Harvey Dent's white knight in comparison to the Dark Knight...both of whom are the heads side of Harvey's coin)...just everything about the movie is fantastic.

Totally disagree with the notion that it has to be grounded in real world events to be considered a great movie. Much as The Lives of Others, Downfall and Requiem for a Dream are all brilliant films, the LotR movies, Sin City, and TDK are far more my cup of tea and IMO have performances equally as brilliant, writing that is as strong, and have visual artistry far superior to anything in the 'grounded' movies.

Not often that I see a movie on the big screen twice, but I'm planning to see this again on the biggest screen I possibly can, booking for the BFI IMAX...but booked solid (for anything but extreme wing seats) for the next 3 weeks. Worth the wait though, when movies are this good it's worth it!

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Just saw it today. Excellent movie but it was kinda ruined for me by 2 different critics. Can't find one of the offending reviewers but the other is from Rolling Stone magazine.

If you have seen the movie, please sign up to Rolling Stone and abuse this idiot.

Don't click on the link if you haven't seen the movie, obviously.

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Originally posted by koodo
Good post. Kinda reflects my thoughts. Don't think I could put it in words as well as you have.

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Originally posted by Neversoft
That's because half the time you appear to be trying to write in the style of an 18th century dandy!

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Originally posted by Neversoft
That's because half the time you appear to be trying to write in the style of an 18th century dandy!

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It wasn't a criticism, just an observation

It should have been a criticism, if 18th century Dandy was cool, Russel Brand wouldn't be a twat. Come on Neversoft, use the logic.

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Originally posted by cupidstunt
It should have been a criticism, if 18th century Dandy was cool, Russel Brand wouldn't be a twat. Come on Neversoft, use the logic.

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And again, you fail to join in on a potential group ripping of Russel Brand and you go off on some fucked up losers tangent.

I give up on you, you are an idiot.

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Originally posted by koodo
Some nice research here re Titanic and the displacement of Godfather as number one. Looked high and low for same type of info and just couldn’t find it. Too bad took so long to come to light. Statement that just about any new movie makes IMDb’s top 100 inane and was challenged as such. Without facts immediately threw discredit on your other views too. Especially the absurdity that ratings don't mean much, not with all the kids who will give it a 10 after watching the trailer. Less than 1% of all votes that have been cast are from those under 18. Look it up dipshit. As for the disposition of TDK time will tell but retain my views. No use yapping anymore on that subject

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Originally posted by cupidstunt
It should have been a criticism, if 18th century Dandy was cool, Russel Brand wouldn't be a twat. Come on Neversoft, use the logic.

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Originally posted by Neversoft
I can cope with him, he's almost funny sometimes and you have to give some kudos to anybody who looks and acts like that, yet still rampages through every decent looking woman he comes across

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Can you believe this? The Godfather is toppled not only from the #1 spot, but now is only the 3rd best film of all time! I thought once a film was #1 it stayed there forever.

Thats just as a result from fanboys voting Godfather 1 star to help keep Batman on top. IMDB ranking system has had its flaws exposed, i give Batman another week before its slide begins.

PJEER THE POWER OF THE BAT-NERDS!

BTW I voted 10 on IMDB for this movie just to piss someone off.

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I saw it the Thursday night the movie opened, and the following week with Mancandy.

Brilliant movie, Heath Ledger found his niche right before he passed away. He stole the movie.

4 out of 4 stars.

Went to see this thursday , it was awesome.

I'd suggest everyone see it on the big screen, i did'nt even mind the £7.50 admission

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