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Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-29-2003 05:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Extractor
I personally was totally unsatisfied with the iND release. First off, the encoding is weak (even for 3 hours). If you see samples of a proper multipass CCE encoding made from the untouched video (Reign, DrS) to 1-disc size, they already look much better than the iND version.

I'm located in Eurpe and don't have HDTV but on a bigger TV screen you can easily tell the difference between the iND and the untouched versions.



Sorry, but you couldn't on my 48" Projection TV either......

I think you really need HDTV to notice the difference..


Posted by pcjerk on 01-29-2003 06:00 PM:

unsatisfied? LOL! Who cares what you were? whiny pir8 alert!

I should hope you can tell the difference between something that is downsampled vs. somthing that isn't. Otherwise you need glasses. Sure the DsR rls is gr8.

As for CCE, gr8 tool, too bad you have to use more than one tool to accomplish anything with CCE.


Posted by Extractor on 01-29-2003 06:04 PM:

Well, strange... my TV is 36" WS flat tube. And you see the diff easily. Half blind man could see it.

Also on a PC Monitor, you can see the diff.

It's already obvious, with 3 hour movie and 600mb audio track, the bitrate is not much higher than the 4 disc SVCD (also keeping in mind that DVD is a higher resolution and hence would need a higher bitrate to allocate equal amount of bits to a frame). I think only the higher maximum bitrate saves it a little.

So I can't understand you don't see a diff on a 48" TV. But I don't want to argue about this, it might depend on what you use (DVD Player, TV, whatever) for watching it.

cheers


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 01-29-2003 11:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pcjerk
unsatisfied? LOL! Who cares what you were? whiny pir8 alert!

I should hope you can tell the difference between something that is downsampled vs. somthing that isn't. Otherwise you need glasses. Sure the DsR rls is gr8.

As for CCE, gr8 tool, too bad you have to use more than one tool to accomplish anything with CCE.



On the downsampled comment, with a standard NTSC 480i max resolution tv set, no, it is not a big difference. I have both.


Posted by PaulAAtreides on 02-01-2003 03:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Extractor
Well, strange... my TV is 36" WS flat tube. And you see the diff easily. Half blind man could see it.

Also on a PC Monitor, you can see the diff.

It's already obvious, with 3 hour movie and 600mb audio track, the bitrate is not much higher than the 4 disc SVCD (also keeping in mind that DVD is a higher resolution and hence would need a higher bitrate to allocate equal amount of bits to a frame). I think only the higher maximum bitrate saves it a little.

So I can't understand you don't see a diff on a 48" TV. But I don't want to argue about this, it might depend on what you use (DVD Player, TV, whatever) for watching it.

cheers



Let's agree to disagree, and another major difference is the bitrate is variable on the DVD-R, so you will get spikes MUCH HIGHER than SVCD when needed.

If you don't believe me, purchase a DVD Player that displays the bitrate instantly for the entire movie. One again , on my 35" Sony, and my 48" Projection, the difference is MINOR, JMHO.


Posted by fateman on 02-18-2003 05:24 AM:

i finally got one of the discs of this release and noticed it isn't 4:3. can i burn it with nero or whatever and will it look ok? i burned gangs of ny, only to find out afterward it is all stretched on my tv, and the fix people suggested didn't work.

thanks
jeff

::This would be better off in the encoding help section, and you might get an answer there. -K::


Posted by wAx on 02-18-2003 11:39 AM:

If the movie is stretched on your tv it means that its Anamorphic. U need to set your player to display 4:3 video or if u have a 16:9 setting on your tv that is even better.


Posted by pHo on 02-18-2003 01:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wAx
U need to set your player to display 4:3 video


if they're playing back on a 4:3 tv, it must be set to 4:3 letterbox specifically. 4:3 standard will crop the sides.

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