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Posted by CoWs` on 09-12-2003 06:21 AM:

i dunno wat all those posts were about, i clicked the post button once and it got all messed up i guess, didnt mean too

Posted by semaj8686 on 09-16-2003 12:51 AM:

man im late on this subjest...must be because i dont hang around all that much to read everything..but hey that sucks....pprettyyy stupid..lol

Posted by warezlove on 09-25-2003 10:07 AM:

I think if you remove the pictures, there isn't much they can do.

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Posted by shadowid60 on 09-25-2003 03:00 PM:

Havent we forgotten that paramount isnt even allowed to view this website? You guys are pointless. They already broke the rules.
I'm only 14 and feel like I'm smarter than paramount... Idiots... trying to blame somthing that they saw on this website when they arent even allowed to see it. Wow you guys really feel stupid now. Anyone else notice how X69 hasnt posted lately?

Posted by shadowid60 on 09-25-2003 03:22 PM:

Some new info:

quote:
Guest Viewing Thread 07-29-2003 Cease and Desist Letters 08:08 AM

Wow isnt that just great!
I think you should definately disable guest accounts and make users log-in to view the board.

Posted by teen_wasteland on 09-25-2003 08:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadowid60
Havent we forgotten that paramount isnt even allowed to view this website? You guys are pointless. They already broke the rules.
I'm only 14 and feel like I'm smarter than paramount... Idiots... trying to blame somthing that they saw on this website when they arent even allowed to see it. Wow you guys really feel stupid now. Anyone else notice how X69 hasnt posted lately?

lol. Even though you feel pretty smart now, you'd probably feel even smarter if you did a little research to see how fake that disclaimer is. Look for it on snopes.com

Posted by shadowid60 on 09-25-2003 10:57 PM:

Well you do know I violated a copyright law, I took a picture of X69's website! Oh no hes gonna sue me!!!
Why dont you try putting a copyright on your site and adding small red dots to the JPG samples, thus them being edited and not property of "Paramount" or whoever made the flick. Then we can all be happy and they are actually Your pictures then. (cause you own the dots) Goodluck to you X69! Hope we all have fun. Oh and by the way, by saying " TombRaider : The Cradle Of Life " I have just broken 3 copyright laws. Whoops. Guess imma get sued! No go away you fag from paramount! I dont want to deal with your fake crap about saying the name of your movie is illiegal. The MPAA is going to spend millions of dollars to bring down IRC, UseNet, P2P and other sources of trading-files. Maby they will go after private LAN's uhoh! that wouldnt be good! Well they sure as hell have the money seeing the top box office charts lately.. 85,000,000$ in one weekend... damn im not ever going to see that much in my whole lifetime

Posted by ember on 10-02-2003 07:00 PM:

1. If you are posting pictures from their movies, they do have a legal right to ask you to take them off of your site. This has already happened with many, many fan sites--Paramount has particularly gone after Star Trek related web-sites from time to time and made them remove all their pictures and sound files.

2. They are assuming that there is some sort of "secret" way to download the movies from this site. I'm sure they've had an "expert" go over it and look throught every single button and link.

Companies like Paramount don't usually go after you, they go after you ISP (they assume you are a kid and kids don't have any money to make suing cost effective and kids can get away with alot as juveniles--their parents take the blame. They make all kinds of threats of what they will do to the ISP if the ISP doesn't force you off. Most ISP's have terms of service that include terms that state that you can't post copyrighted materials and, if you do, they have the right to kick you off.

Movie companies are taking MAJOR hits not just because bootlegged movies means less people having to go to a theater to see a movie. The thing that's killing them is when a movie like The Hulk is made available ahead of time and word gets out on the internet that it sucks. Then they don't make their first big multimillion dollar weekend--that's where they make most of their money back to cove the movie costs. The cure to that is to make movies that don't suck.

Posted by labrat1 on 10-02-2003 09:43 PM:

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Originally posted by ember

2. They are assuming that there is some sort of "secret" way to download the movies from this site.

yeah right here

Riaa / Mpaa and anyone else who wants movies from this site click here

www.vcdquality.com/moviedownloadcenter/groups/TCF

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Posted by shadowid60 on 10-03-2003 01:53 PM:

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The Hulk is made available ahead of time and word gets out on the internet that it sucks. Then they don't make their first big multimillion dollar weekend-

I could tell The Hulk was going to suck VIA the previews.. but lets not get off topic.. It was just an over-advertised movie. I went to Fandango 3 weeks before it came out and it had one of the "floating and auto-centering" Hulk ads. Pethetic that they have to do that to get people to see a movie, isnt it?

Posted by TheDiggler on 10-04-2003 06:49 AM:

Strange, everything I have read and heard refers to record revenues for the studios and 60% of that from DVD rentals and purchases.

Posted by pixie on 10-30-2003 03:23 PM:

now this is a FUNNY lawyers letter

Interesting reading here.
Hmm.
I searched around on this dude lawyers name and when i found the following page i had to come back to share it...
thats what I call real comedy. read the contents of his cease and desist letter!
http://www.microsofe.com/sales.html

calls himself billy gates and says he has a machine for making harry potter t shirts to which the lawyers have emailed him about

(unless its all copy-pasted of course but looks real enough

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Posted by phpdood on 11-05-2003 07:50 AM:

Interesting...

well it's either my firewall or the JPG/samples have been taken out....?

I have done a little research and found that any movie production company "blah blah movies is copyrighted" thus they own all the copyrights and therefore they can "invade" any website displaying "illegal pictures" of that particular movie. Futhermore now the FBI can remotevly take over your machine and control it from a satalite (new PCs i suppose) However the samples where indeed getting a little out of hand maybe that's why they said "that's enough" and contact you. I do not work for them nor do i have any affiliation with them. What google does is index sites and it picks them up from other URLs thefore that is really nothing they can do but contact those particular sites which are hosting that particular contenet personally.

Question:

What if you where to host those images/samples in another country where piracy laws does not exist or is for private use, and if you where to make everyone log in and register there would be nothing they can do about it since you are using this site as private usage, of course that might piss some people off.

Anyways if you have an idea or maybe you could move vcdquality to another country where piracy laws does not exist. If so what country would that be ? a host in Finland ?

or some island near Central America ??

Posted by JonnoD on 11-05-2003 11:05 AM:

1. Host your site abroad in a country where no piracy laws exist as mentioned in previous posts. E.G Russia.

2. Seek legal action and make a new register/login system where everyone HAS to agree to a disclaimer before registering/logging in to view files.

3. Change the images. Perhaps use photoshop to change the image, make it slightly fuzzy or change the color quality so its not noticeable to the eye. That way it is NOT copyrighted material.

4. Don't take screenshots of main parts of the movie. Take a screenshot of the floor or somthing so its hard for them to recognise if its in the movie or not.

All the best!

Posted by mrlipring on 11-05-2003 09:26 PM:

Re: Interesting...

quote:
Originally posted by phpdood
well it's either my firewall or the JPG/samples have been taken out....?

I have done a little research and found that any movie production company "blah blah movies is copyrighted" thus they own all the copyrights and therefore they can "invade" any website displaying "illegal pictures" of that particular movie. Futhermore now the FBI can remotevly take over your machine and control it from a satalite (new PCs i suppose) However the samples where indeed getting a little out of hand maybe that's why they said "that's enough" and contact you. I do not work for them nor do i have any affiliation with them. What google does is index sites and it picks them up from other URLs thefore that is really nothing they can do but contact those particular sites which are hosting that particular contenet personally.

Question:

What if you where to host those images/samples in another country where piracy laws does not exist or is for private use, and if you where to make everyone log in and register there would be nothing they can do about it since you are using this site as private usage, of course that might piss some people off.

Anyways if you have an idea or maybe you could move vcdquality to another country where piracy laws does not exist. If so what country would that be ? a host in Finland ?

or some island near Central America ??

does it take effort to talk as much shite as you do?

Posted by Davy on 11-06-2003 12:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JonnoD
3. Change the images. Perhaps use photoshop to change the image, make it slightly fuzzy or change the color quality so its not noticeable to the eye. That way it is NOT copyrighted material.

4. Don't take screenshots of main parts of the movie. Take a screenshot of the floor or somthing so its hard for them to recognise if its in the movie or not.

All the best!

I really dont mean to sound like i'm flaming you, but A copyrighted image is still a copyright, regardless of changing the color or something, E.G the "Coca Cola" logo or "M" from McDonalds is still under ownership of CC / McDonalds regardless of what color you make it, its the design that is registered.. i'm pretty sure the movie frame would be copyrighted also..

Dont take screenshots of the main parts - take them of the floor?! whats the point of looking at carpet - you can't tell how good the movie is then, can you :P

Again, no flaming intended, nothing personal, just wanted to point the above out...

Anyway back on topic - I Assume that because we've not seen the site shut down, or any more reports about whats happening that its all gone away (for now)..

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