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Posted by 28_days_later on 05-20-2003 11:14 PM:

quote:
Zaun,

Because I have a 32" tv and only a 17" monitor... and if by the conotation noobie you mean that I don't know what I'm talking about then you are mistaken. Perhapse my wording was poor, however, your comment was less then constructive.

A@ron

::Oh and because its PAL its resolution is not 480 X 480... it is 480 X 360. NTSC SVCDs have a resolution of 480 X 480 generally.::

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actually, PAL is 480 x 576


Posted by Beaver35 on 05-20-2003 11:28 PM:

Thumbs up Thanks guy

Well not much to say.....But it's the best..


Posted by BobKik on 05-20-2003 11:50 PM:

The advantage of Centropy having the same source as APM, is it allow you to compare the differences between VCD and SVCD

Hope Centropy will not crop the edges in the future

We do want to see all of the movie


Posted by hdtv00 on 05-20-2003 11:57 PM:

quote:
It might look better to your eye because your TV smooths the lines and uses round "pixels" but, your monitor / pc shows more detail.


Thats exactly right.Thats why they look better on a tv than a monitor.Same reason regular tv looks like shit on a hdtv,because hdtv has such a higher res,you can then see every single flaw in the picture from a low quality source.

The worse the source the better it looks on tv's,the better the source the better it'll look on a monitor or hdtv.What really sucks is my player plays every dvd fine ive tried up until centropy's last few releases.Svcd dvd rips always play flawless,for me I think its something in the bitrate thats making my player studder slightly.They still play just not perfect....life aint fair lol.


Posted by magurgle on 05-21-2003 12:01 AM:

Just wanted to know if anyone else noticed that between disc 1 and 2 there is a chunk of the movie missing. Disc 1 ends with the Trinity and Neo sex scene then all of a sudden the 2nd disc starts with Neo walking down the hallway to see the Oracle. I saw this in the theatres and it seems to me part of the movie is missing.

Otherwise great release from centropy!!!!


Posted by Phantasm on 05-21-2003 12:02 AM:

I downloaded both the APM and CTP releases and compared the first 3 minutes. The sources both look exactly the same, but CTP have done a much better job at encoding so I watched that one.

The APM version has obvious mpeg1 ghosting and some macro-blocking. I didnt notice any such encoding artefacts on the CTP release.

Both are certainly watchable, but I chose the CTP one as my dvd player has no problems with SVCDs.


Posted by elpale1 on 05-21-2003 12:15 AM:

Super release. Another great release thx to Centropy.


Posted by lorddusty on 05-21-2003 02:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Solace
Hey everyone, First post, and Im sort of new to all this. I wanted to ask about the bouncy Rubiks cube on this release and the x-men release. What is it? Is it a calling card of sorts? TIA


LOL, no the Rubic cube is not part of the encode, it's Elcard mpeg2 codec rearing it's ulgy head, dont ever play svcd's in WMP, use your favorite DVD software player, Ie: power dvd.


Posted by thugtillidie732 on 05-21-2003 03:07 AM:

great job on this

8-8-10

this movie was off the hook...


Posted by scottymac on 05-21-2003 03:39 AM:

I have seen the Esoteric, FTF, APM and Centropy versions of this release and by far, the Centropy version is the best.

If you have highspeed, it's a no brainer-grab the CTP 3 SVCD,
but if you're stuck with dial up, or cannot afford a huge d/l, then go ahead and d/l the APM version, it's very close.

CTP, you have done it again, but how about NTSC next time? I hate having to work your work to get it working

8/8/9

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What stinks?


Oh, it's just JC


Posted by K-FurY on 05-21-2003 04:05 AM:

Well I was away for the long weekend (well the Canadian users had a long weekend, dont know about us or brits) and i got back late last night. So i ended up leeching this instead of the APM release. I haven't watched the whole thing yet, just looked at bits and pieces of each cd, but from what i can see, the release is very good. It does have an angle, the whole numbers down the screen at the beginning makes this easier to notice, but its not much of a bother. The vid is a bit dark in some scenes, but generally very good, colors are good, sharpness is great, angle isnt noticable in the majority of the parts (that i watched), overall great video. I have no complaints about the sound, i played on my standalone with my surround sound system, didnt notice any buzz.

overall rating

8.5/9/9

also i didnt bother getting the apm release so i cant comment on that they were from the same source, i may download the sample and just compare that scene later on. and i must say that the intro on this release was pretty cool, i loved the whole quoting of the cnet article.

Keep it up ctp.


Posted by ShinSplint on 05-21-2003 04:45 AM:

I finally had a chance to DL and burn the CTP copy as I had to see for myself if they were the same source and how much better CTP copy was...

Almost no doubt the source is the same, same angle (yes to me it is very obvious but I can live with it) but the color and clarity is far superior on the CTP svcd version -not surprising seeing that more than double the data rate for SVCD.

The sound seemed a tad better to me but I am almost ddef in one ear so I'll let others debate that.

I vote 8/8/7 -a very good release indeed. I didn't care for the Centropy intro too much, a bit too long for my taste but the 3D rendering was mucho cool


Posted by frak on 05-21-2003 09:37 AM:

CTP is the only stuff i d/l anymore.

great release.

Sound was excellent and video.

I just wish they'd release in NTSC - pal conversion is a pita.
Gotta use tmpgenc (only app that keeps it in sync) which is
slow as hell.

-frak


Posted by juz a leech on 05-21-2003 10:16 AM:

This release is better that the other 2 I've downloaded. Great Job CTP.......as always.


Posted by zozito on 05-21-2003 12:14 PM:

Guys, actually you can correct for the angle if you use the ffdshow codec -- there's a perspective correction feature in the alpha version that seems designed just for these cam/ts rips. Unfortunately it seems not to work for svcd's, cause it has to be divx/xvid or something you can play through wmp (such as vcd) -- unless there's a decent way to play svcd's in wmp, that I don't know of.

Still, it works for everything else, such as the apm vcd release, and the impurity/pit divx reencodes of the ctp release (I have the impurity reencode, this thing works great, just calibrated the amount of correction using the cascading text at the very beginning of the movie, no more angle now )...

only downside is that if the source was cropped square like these are, you'll lose yet more of the original picture as the filter crops it square yet again as it's correcting the angle... another reason the groups shouldn't crop just to disguise the fact there's an angle...

check it out -- http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/


Posted by RMF on 05-21-2003 01:14 PM:

I'm in the process of getting this release as we speak, but after watching the sample i can say that it's quite good. Looks nice and clean on my 32" widescreen. There is definetely an angle, but it's nothing major. I can live with this release until the DVD-R comes out


Posted by sqweeks on 05-21-2003 03:05 PM:

I cant seem to burn it. It says content is to big for disc. do i have to use a 800MB disc?


Posted by dragonbrood on 05-21-2003 04:31 PM:

no i didnt...i used 700 mb disc's and burned it with nero using DAO (Disk at once) ive got under preferences -> expert features - overburning enabled, normally nero just reports that there isnt enough space do you wish to finalize the cd - just press yes


Posted by jor on 05-21-2003 08:48 PM:

i just downloaded it.....and i have 3 .bin and 3 .cue files. how do i convert them so i can burn them to a cd?


Posted by lax01 on 05-21-2003 09:30 PM:

how can some people have perfect sound and others have lousy? I don't get it...either people are lying that they got the release and just going by what other people say or something got screwed up in the download. Mine had a very annoying buzz to it all the way through a 3 discs....I couldn't get rid of even when I tunred the treble way down....this is sub-par quality for Centropy and they should be ashamed....I still watched it but I won't watch again because the quality sucks so much for sound...so all you people giving the sound a 9(!!!!!!!!!!!!) what the hell are you thinking? Sound is like a 6 at best....


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