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Posted by EViL-EWoK on 02-02-2003 05:27 AM:

any1 gonna really watch this stupid movie? ?

Posted by CraZY8 on 02-02-2003 05:28 AM:

uh huh?

thought these boys quit
from the sample this looks like an average ts
props for giving us more of a selection but...
ts's can only be so great
and yes i did rate it from the SAMPLE
6/7/8

Posted by HuFFKING on 02-02-2003 05:32 AM:

wtf

holy shit this shit better be good no pics yet so it might be fake but again the last fuck that posted said he watched the sample

Posted by svenbob on 02-02-2003 05:32 AM:

Wierd... but hey, looks decent, maybe a new cammer? 6/5/10 (i got laid after this movie, it holds a special corner in my heart... even though i have no idea what happened during it...)

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Posted by Stabbe on 02-02-2003 05:36 AM:

I just say WTF?!? , are they gonna dissappear after this again or what?

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Posted by pHizZ on 02-02-2003 05:46 AM:

ctp is NOT gone. they rls dvd stuff. i thought they quit ts's though.

Posted by petrocs on 02-02-2003 05:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Stabbe
I just say WTF?!? , are they gonna dissappear after this again or what?

if you read the nfo it states:
"The quality will, of course, improve over future releases. "

now that can either mean 1 of 2 things..

1) CTP is back releasing TS's

or

2) The quality of future releases of Biker Boyz (ie screeners,dvdrips,etc) will get better.

only time will tell which one is the answer

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Posted by Rep- on 02-02-2003 05:49 AM:

they're back!!! Nice picture, as always. the sound is a little low, but that is fixed with TV. Great release!

Posted by semaj8686 on 02-02-2003 05:56 AM:

i bet that we are just being teased...they give us this and hide for a while again. But hey i saw the sample..it looks good 7.5/7/9

Posted by brr8760 on 02-02-2003 06:07 AM:

The incomparable Centr0py returns?? 2 1/2 months have passed since their JACKASS reminded us how much we missed them. Hope it's not another 2 1/2 months, guys! Like the others here, I'm cautiously optimistic...

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Posted by oqwarrior on 02-02-2003 06:23 AM:

Let's hope they don't leave us again, because I need my daily dose of Centr0py!

7/8/6

Posted by LMB on 02-02-2003 06:38 AM:

Oh boy, here come the ctp fans....*sigh*

Posted by XCheMiCal on 02-02-2003 06:47 AM:

not their best work but the best copy of biker boyz yet.
7/7/5

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Posted by rodney on 02-02-2003 06:52 AM:

<sarcasm>
whippee centropy is back
</sarcasm>

i hope they either stay for good or leave, and btw the movie sucks even if its a ctp release dont waste time on this...

Posted by hippyhater on 02-02-2003 07:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LMB
Oh boy, here come the ctp fans....*sigh*

yes... everyone should be a ctp fan.. they raised the bar... but since they left the bar went on hiatus.... then to venus.. and then it sent me a postcard with 3 cats on it drinkin tequila..

btw i lost my point before the page loaded.

Posted by brr8760 on 02-02-2003 07:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LMB
Oh boy, here come the ctp fans....*sigh*

Followed immediately by LAMERS who aren't able to give credit (to others) when credit is due. How predictable and tiresome.

EDIT: hippyhater & LMB -- good replies below. But if LMB had been around in the spring and summer of 2002, he'd know that nobody contributed anything close to what Centr0py did back then, and that's why they have so many "fans," even though they've been rather ordinary ever since.

EDIT 2: Watched a big chunk of it-- what an improvement! The quality label remains.

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Posted by hippyhater on 02-02-2003 07:25 AM:

actually LMB isnt a lamer, hes a misguided lemming. he just thinks that ctp is given too much credit for their releases, which is true. but they do put out the best and they do deserve credit for that, but even when they admit that this isnt as good as it could of been, everyone still goes OMFG BEST RLS EVER.

ctp should keep releasing since they make everyone happy even tho no one says it.

Posted by LMB on 02-02-2003 07:31 AM:

brr8760, did I say that they didn't deserve credit? No. I think every group that puts their time into releasing something is fantastic and deserves a lot of respect, however; there are other groups that should be given just as much respect as you give to Centropy. There are many groups out there that have given more to the scene than Centropy and deserve a little credit.

Keep 'em up Centropy, you don't want to let your fans down :P

Posted by Lfew on 02-02-2003 07:42 AM:

Biker Boyz or ?

Well after being in motorcycle racing for over 30 years and still building them, i think i am an absolute authority on this subject at the very least. The racing or whatever it is beyond lame - it certainly aint racing. Also, it aint nowhere in the same league as fast and furious. Hell, my 17 year old kid can wheelie a zx12 to top end. There aint one good wheelie, not to mention a one handed 100+mph wheelie in the entire movie. There is one good scene with Kawasakis Ricky Gadsten. You should be able to see the real deal on his one sub 10 sec. 1/4 mile pass. Compare that to that bullshit in this movie. They must be riding the slowest bikes in the world for a drag race to endure as long as some do in this joke. Why could the not make a good bike movie, it just underscores how lame Hollywood is. (kinda like the hours lol, after all the hype i went to the cinema to see it and demanded my money back and got it - lame - lame - lame.) If u really want to see a decent bike flick, i suggest Steve McQueens and Bruce Browns flick called On Any Sunday. Netflicks has it. Biker Boys is so lame that i think its a waste of time for such a legendary group like CTP to even mess with. Especially since they only make 6 or so rls a year. I know it was a waste of a good cd even if i get them for free at office max or compusa when they have them on sale with a rebate that pays for them. I just cant believe it, not even one good brodie or a good wheelie. (for u that dont know, a brodie is a lock up the rear brake and slide it out then, turn the gas on wfo and put it on its side and knee on the ground and then smoke the tire down in circles. I dont think these guys that made this film have even the slightest idea about real pro racing or stunt riding by real pros at all. Its time for a really bitchin bike movie with a fictional plot like driven or even this dribble but with real action and serious speed. There just aint much in life like sliding it out of the turns at 100mph+ and snagging a horrible wheelie into the next turn at light speed lol. Thats the real deal hollywood. Any kind of car racing is lame compared to real bike road racing. I dont care what kind of car u got, its gotta run 9s to keep up with just an average bike road racer, they are just so much faster than cars. 170+bhp with a combined weight of less than 500lbs and those are street bikes made into race bikes. (can u say 1,400hp with no turbos, nitrous, or superchargers reliably lap after lap, out of ur camaro to have a comparable power to weight ratio - nascars make about 1/2 that - turds lol.) u r talking a 0 to 60 of 2 sec or less with 140+ in the 1/4 mile. It takes a nascar a couple of laps just to run 200mph at Daytona. A bike only runs half the banking and the infield. They run 190mph+ in half a lap lol. The real deal, no pussies or even phonies. This movie is sooo lame. Come on hollywood make the real deal not this gay crap. Forget the hours, make a cult bike racing movie and you will make millions - maybe hundreds of millions. Dont forget motorcycle road racing is the largest spectator sport in Europe (near to or over 100k ppl at the races in the us.) If u ppl want to see real men race with their lives in the balance while they put their bodies on the ground in a controlled crash through every corner at speeds up to holy shit lap after lap - go see a real pro bike road race - it will be the experience of your life! It just aint the same on the tube.

Posted by ArchdemoN on 02-02-2003 07:45 AM:

that guy with the 1000 word reply.
im sure noone gives a shit what u do in the 'real' world...

u make motorcycles u must either be a dike, or seriously gay.

Posted by LMB on 02-02-2003 07:45 AM:

i like bikes. vroom vroom.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-02-2003 07:48 AM:

CTP rises from the dead

This is awesome, I had a dream CTP the whole group got on a plane and it crashed. and they all died, but i'm totally glad to hear that thats not true, thank goodness for that, even if they don't release for a while i'm glad to know that there still alive.

After all of this FTF only released one release this year if im not mistaking? Where the hell are they? oh well, maybe the dream i had was about them. But seriously lets hope not, no one ever deserves to die unless they are part of my family. like my grandfather should die, i hate that fucker, but thats besides the point.

Bottom line: Welcome back CTP, Stay lost FTF, and hope my Ex Grandfather dies a horrible death. later all.

Posted by LMB on 02-02-2003 07:52 AM:

That's mean. Respect your elders, or at least kill him yourself so it has that 'family touch'. Meanie.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-02-2003 08:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ArchdemoN
that guy with the 1000 word reply.
im sure noone gives a shit what u do in the 'real' world...

u make motorcycles u must either be a dike, or seriously gay.

At least he had something to say about the fucking movie you damn lamer. I enjoyed reading his reply more than i did yours, His post wasn't focusing on making bikes he was talking about how shit the movie was, and how it didn't compare to what the sport really consists of. I respect his post. so shut the fuck up. oh wait i didn't read your reply on the quality of the release did I? NO, so shut the hell up and suck on your momma's titties, or whatever you do in your real life. I got some gasoline for ya.

Posted by Lfew on 02-02-2003 08:18 AM:

? well, each to their own right!

I took ppl like u riding but they get off the bike vomitiing and pissed in their pants lol, they just cant imagine the loss of gravity at 100+mph while on the rear wheel. Its a feeling you will probably never be able to experience or fathom. But, you could at least go to one race in your life to see something real. Then imagine what it takes to do it consistantly lap after lap. I might suggest that u are the fag dude! However, im going to give u the benefit of doubt, there is no possible way that u have any idea of the REAL DEAL or REAL MEN.

Posted by champmeister on 02-02-2003 08:38 AM:

yes ok whatever shut up ctp good release average i drunk good night

Posted by daNnY^4LiFe on 02-02-2003 08:50 AM:

Centropy back on vcds?
NICE!
:P

Posted by scourge89t on 02-02-2003 08:50 AM:

quote:
Dont forget motorcycle road racing is the largest spectator sport in Europe

i believe that title belongs to F1 racing... which is way fucking better than bike racing.

Posted by n0th1ng on 02-02-2003 09:08 AM:

from sample this doesnt look to great...but definetly a decent ts

Posted by HuFFKING on 02-02-2003 09:24 AM:

bar raised?

when centropy left shit wasnt doin great at first but now dvd scr and screeners on almost every good movie shits wicked now new game since ctp left cams and ts dont cut it lets hope they stick around and rls some top quality shit if they dont wont really matter tons of other groups now that are doing a great job

Posted by flipp0r on 02-02-2003 09:36 AM:

it brings a tear to my eye when i see a ctp svcd. (in a good way)
this movie IS lacking as Lfew abundantly pointed out.
tx for being honest man.
6/5/3

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Posted by TGD on 02-02-2003 10:33 AM:

Re: Biker Boyz or ?

quote:
Originally posted by Lfew
Well after being in motorcycle racing for over 30 years and still building them, i think i am an absolute authority on this subject at the very least. The racing or whatever it is beyond lame - it certainly aint racing. Also, it aint nowhere in the same league as fast and furious. Hell, my 17 year old kid can wheelie a zx12 to top end. There aint one good wheelie, not to mention a one handed 100+mph wheelie in the entire movie. There is one good scene with Kawasakis Ricky Gadsten. You should be able to see the real deal on his one sub 10 sec. 1/4 mile pass. Compare that to that bullshit in this movie. They must be riding the slowest bikes in the world for a drag race to endure as long as some do in this joke. Why could the not make a good bike movie, it just underscores how lame Hollywood is. (kinda like the hours lol, after all the hype i went to the cinema to see it and demanded my money back and got it - lame - lame - lame.) If u really want to see a decent bike flick, i suggest Steve McQueens and Bruce Browns flick called On Any Sunday. Netflicks has it. Biker Boys is so lame that i think its a waste of time for such a legendary group like CTP to even mess with. Especially since they only make 6 or so rls a year. I know it was a waste of a good cd even if i get them for free at office max or compusa when they have them on sale with a rebate that pays for them. I just cant believe it, not even one good brodie or a good wheelie. (for u that dont know, a brodie is a lock up the rear brake and slide it out then, turn the gas on wfo and put it on its side and knee on the ground and then smoke the tire down in circles. I dont think these guys that made this film have even the slightest idea about real pro racing or stunt riding by real pros at all. Its time for a really bitchin bike movie with a fictional plot like driven or even this dribble but with real action and serious speed. There just aint much in life like sliding it out of the turns at 100mph+ and snagging a horrible wheelie into the next turn at light speed lol. Thats the real deal hollywood. Any kind of car racing is lame compared to real bike road racing. I dont care what kind of car u got, its gotta run 9s to keep up with just an average bike road racer, they are just so much faster than cars. 170+bhp with a combined weight of less than 500lbs and those are street bikes made into race bikes. (can u say 1,400hp with no turbos, nitrous, or superchargers reliably lap after lap, out of ur camaro to have a comparable .................................enough enough enough ALREADY!

Dude, how the fuck can you sit here and reply with a grip of worthless advice just of the simple fact that you build cycles and your kind can do a wheely on a small cycle? Your input was utter useless.

Posted by PsychoPostalWor on 02-02-2003 11:08 AM:

like it or not,there are few if any groups who put out a TS as nice as Centropy...have to give props when props are due. Enjoy it,'cuz it sure beats the hell outta of the sWs rls. Besides,the movie sucks...

6/7/3

Posted by BeNNeR on 02-02-2003 11:45 AM:

I like bikez too, and i also really like birds, vroom pip vroom pip

Posted by RedBl_|LL on 02-02-2003 12:19 PM:

Re: bar raised?

quote:
Originally posted by HuFFKING
when centropy left shit wasnt doin great at first but now dvd scr and screeners on almost every good movie shits wicked now new game since ctp left cams and ts dont cut it lets hope they stick around and rls some top quality shit if they dont wont really matter tons of other groups now that are doing a great job

What??

Posted by ub3rk1d on 02-02-2003 12:39 PM:

Re: bar raised?

quote:
Originally posted by HuFFKING
when centropy left shit wasnt doin great at first but now dvd scr and screeners on almost every good movie shits wicked now new game since ctp left cams and ts dont cut it lets hope they stick around and rls some top quality shit if they dont wont really matter tons of other groups now that are doing a great job

Thats cos in oscar season there is lots of dvd scr/screeners for the review guys to watch and whoever else they give em to.

Posted by bizcut99 on 02-02-2003 12:47 PM:

Movie = gay
Guy with stupid bike knowledge = extremely gay

Posted by VonRashniek on 02-02-2003 01:05 PM:

just rate it

cTp- pulls more gay shit than any other group EVER has.
their qual has always been descent, sometimes above average(nice), but just rate the flick, you don't have to suck their ____. they still cant touch tcf, if they stay around long enuff maybe. but i aint overwhelmed, by a drop by release.

QUOTE]Originally posted by brr8760
The incomparable Centr0py returns?? 2 1/2 months have passed since their JACKASS reminded us how much we missed them. Hope it's not another 2 1/2 months, guys! Like the others here, I'm cautiously optimistic... [/QUOTE]

typical cocksmoker ^^^ prolly didnt see the sample yet, just rate the movie please.

6-video is grainy 5-very low sound 4- movie sucks

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-02-2003 01:49 PM:

a nickles worth of stupid non sence

I actually can't stand bikes, I hate bikes with a passion, I bought a brand new car, 10 min. after i had it a guy on a bike rammed the back end of my car and damn near totaled it. After that i hated bikes. But since this is a biker movie i think that Lfew's opinion is very good. I've have met alot of bikers in my day, there not gay, alot of them will beat your ass if you look at them wrong. there bad asses. Look at hells angels or are half of you stupid enough not to know who they were? and also for the lamers who is saying that Lfew must be gay cause he knows what he is talking about and because he loves bikes you must have seen the crummy movie The fast and the furious way to much. I bet half of the people never knew what street racing was before that movie came out. Now cause of that damn movie we got all these lamers who think they know everything cause of a movie, at least Lfew didn't get bikes from a movie, like half of you lamers in this forum.

Posted by buttheaduk on 02-02-2003 02:28 PM:

woot... The DVD season has finished now its the Centropy Proper season, lets not forget about the centropy ass kissing season!

Posted by CinapS on 02-02-2003 02:50 PM:

How many excuses does ctp have now. I guess thats what happens when you dont have the same setup as before i give this flick 7 5 8.

PS.... For every excuse they make some lame looser will stick up for them and they know it. And because these lame people exist
they way other groups and voting could never be true. But owell let me leave it alone congrads Ctp on your new video.

Posted by djkoolaide on 02-02-2003 03:51 PM:

*yawn*

c'mon UTi, start rls telesyncs and you guys will be 13373r than ctp was

Posted by Ibegoat on 02-02-2003 04:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by djkoolaide
*yawn*

c'mon UTi, start rls telesyncs and you guys will be 13373r than ctp was

I must agree some SVCD telesyncs from UTi would be great and no group would beable to compare.

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Posted by XTASY-Jones on 02-02-2003 04:44 PM:

Hmmmm......

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Posted by robster on 02-02-2003 04:55 PM:

THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWAANANNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!@!@#$%

Posted by a1catraz on 02-02-2003 05:47 PM:

Re: just rate it

quote:
Originally posted by VonRashniek
cTp- pulls more gay shit than any other group EVER has.
their qual has always been descent, sometimes above average(nice), but just rate the flick, you don't have to suck their ____. they still cant touch tcf, if they stay around long enuff maybe. but i aint overwhelmed, by a drop by release.

QUOTE]Originally posted by brr8760
The incomparable Centr0py returns?? 2 1/2 months have passed since their JACKASS reminded us how much we missed them. Hope it's not another 2 1/2 months, guys! Like the others here, I'm cautiously optimistic...

typical cocksmoker ^^^ prolly didnt see the sample yet, just rate the movie please.

6-video is grainy 5-very low sound 4- movie sucks [/QUOTE]

dude.. your giving it like its a fuckin ftf/eso release..?

5/5/5 = average ftf/esoteric release

this is way better then that
7/6/5 <-- AT LEAST

soundlow? fucking raise the volume up.

video = grainy? watch it on tv fuck head..

Posted by nvr on 02-02-2003 06:01 PM:

not the best movie out these days but quality is nice

7/6/4

Audio a little low but easily fixable on the tv!

Nice to see Centropy releasing again!

Hope this isnt like Jackass 1 release and gone again for months.
Stay with us guys !

Posted by DarKMooN on 02-02-2003 06:38 PM:

Way to go CTP, i've already seen this movie, but i hope many more will follow!

Posted by hippyhater on 02-02-2003 07:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by brr8760
Followed immediately by LAMERS who aren't able to give credit (to others) when credit is due. How predictable and tiresome.

EDIT: hippyhater & LMB -- good replies below. But if LMB had been around in the spring and summer of 2002, he'd know that nobody contributed anything close to what Centr0py did back then, and that's why they have so many "fans," even though they've been rather ordinary ever since.

LMB & I have been around for years =-/

we know each other personally so thats how i know.

and yes ctp is one of the best groups ever, and we recognize that, but the other groups deserve some credit to and no one gives it to them, thats all were saying.

Posted by The Booker Man on 02-02-2003 08:16 PM:

Keep your fuckin pants on, one ts release in the last........ 2 months and there back? yeah they release dvd stuff, but even that is REALLY slow. This does not deserve higher that a 7 for vid and 6 for audio

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Posted by slaz on 02-02-2003 08:31 PM:

Well I just got done watching the movie. I thought the movie was pretty shit, but was happy with the quality of the release itself. I am going to give it 7/7/4.

Its allways nice to see an old group return, welcome back Centropy! I hope you stay

Posted by your name here on 02-02-2003 08:42 PM:

been gone for a couple days so havent got to post, jus seen sample looks like a different source,pic is not good at all watchable but not that good 6/6/8

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Posted by The Booker Man on 02-02-2003 08:43 PM:

There hasn't been a ctp owning season in a long time, and if there was, TCF would release a killer ts's ONCE AGAIN

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Posted by LMB on 02-02-2003 08:58 PM:

brr8760, do you even remember when Centropy merged with Charade? Didn't think so.

Posted by Justaren on 02-02-2003 08:59 PM:

its just a movie!

man...with the whole essay about his dike or gay life wearning leather and riding for hours of boredem..its just a damn movie...you still watched it!....anyways...

is this movie really good or no!...or is this copy decent to watch..or just wait for something better....

Posted by svenbob on 02-02-2003 10:23 PM:

yeah but i bet none of you remeber when Compaq merged with HP!!...

....sorry

Posted by LMB on 02-02-2003 11:07 PM:

I remeber how shitty both companies are.

Posted by hippyhater on 02-03-2003 12:00 AM:

i must remeber to pat LMB on the back tomorrow for that one.

Posted by Flar30n on 02-03-2003 12:01 AM:

Do you realize you guys just ruin this site?

I would have to say that it is rather unfortunate the way the forums have degraded like this.

I may be wrong, but isnt the point of these threads to be a place where you can find out about the movie and the release? Frankly, they simply have degraded into an all out brawl between you guys. I would be willing to bet this is because everyone here tends to think that yes, they are infact the man, the top dawg, the big dude, in the scene. Unfortunately, you are not. This thought does however cause alot of ego's to flare when someone says something to another person.

I realize that all of the childish behavior here will not stop at all because of this thread, and I bet that a few twelve year olds will come in here trying to respond to this in a negative manner, but just think about what you are doing first before you talk. If someone wants to rant and rag about Centr0py, let them. If they happen to think that Centr0py is awesome, then thats their thought, why flame them for it? I am under the impression that the internet is a very free place, and everyone has their right to their own opinions. You do not have to agree with them, but there is no reason to fall into the trap of just straight out insulting eachother.

Reading over most of the threads reviewing movies, this tends to be the case. I would say that over 85% of threads here have some sort of flame war going on in them. Do you think that this is cool? To be direct, do you think that a single person really gives a shit that you think you are the man? Well, they dont, and you are not. There are a whole lot of people who are alot "bigger" than you running around the internet and there is no reason for you to go around spouting off your ego at everyone. Do you think that you are cool for getting in a fight with someone? I can tell you that alot of people would think you were a whole lot cooler if you kept your mouth shut and didnt ruin the forums for everyone else instead of replying with these schoolyard 5th grade attitudes.

Let's try to be civilized. I would like to be able to actually read about the quality of a release in these threads rather than having to scroll down through 85% of the posts which are just a back and forth flame. That is not the point of this site. If you want to flame, go to ISONEWS. ISONEWS is already amazingly hated by practically everyone because of this, so why dont you try to not ruin VcdQuality also?

Now, I have no opinion about this movie. Regardless of whatever quality the movie is, regardless of what group it is, any person who releases anything deserves props. It is a whole lot more than most of the people here do. You have no right to flame and insult over it. You can say "yeah the quality of this isnt good, sound sucks, blah blah blah im gay" if you want, but frankly these groups are doing infinitely more than you are. You can sit back and leech shit all you want, and be proud of knowing that you contribute absolutely nothing to the scene. Until you do, nobody wants to hear what you have to say about groups or scene politics, so once again, keep your mouth shut.

I give props to Centr0py for this release, keep up the good work. It's nice to see you guys back.

I hope that some of the little children, and some of the adults who just like to act like children, will read this post and maybe learn a thing or two from it. Chill out, keep this place good. And no, this is not a flame targetting anyone in specfic, but I would like to see this forum kept at a level where its still usable (unlike ISONEWS).

Peace.

-Flare-

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-03-2003 12:41 AM:

Re: Do you realize you guys just ruin this site?

quote:
Originally posted by Flar30n
I would have to say that it is rather unfortunate the way the forums have degraded like this.

I may be wrong, but isnt the point of these threads to be a place where you can find out about the movie and the release? Frankly, they simply have degraded into an all out brawl between you guys. I would be willing to bet this is because everyone here tends to think that yes, they are infact the man, the top dawg, the big dude, in the scene. Unfortunately, you are not. This thought does however cause alot of ego's to flare when someone says something to another person.

I realize that all of the childish behavior here will not stop at all because of this thread, and I bet that a few twelve year olds will come in here trying to respond to this in a negative manner, but just think about what you are doing first before you talk. If someone wants to rant and rag about Centr0py, let them. If they happen to think that Centr0py is awesome, then thats their thought, why flame them for it? I am under the impression that the internet is a very free place, and everyone has their right to their own opinions. You do not have to agree with them, but there is no reason to fall into the trap of just straight out insulting eachother.

Reading over most of the threads reviewing movies, this tends to be the case. I would say that over 85% of threads here have some sort of flame war going on in them. Do you think that this is cool? To be direct, do you think that a single person really gives a shit that you think you are the man? Well, they dont, and you are not. There are a whole lot of people who are alot "bigger" than you running around the internet and there is no reason for you to go around spouting off your ego at everyone. Do you think that you are cool for getting in a fight with someone? I can tell you that alot of people would think you were a whole lot cooler if you kept your mouth shut and didnt ruin the forums for everyone else instead of replying with these schoolyard 5th grade attitudes.

Let's try to be civilized. I would like to be able to actually read about the quality of a release in these threads rather than having to scroll down through 85% of the posts which are just a back and forth flame. That is not the point of this site. If you want to flame, go to ISONEWS. ISONEWS is already amazingly hated by practically everyone because of this, so why dont you try to not ruin VcdQuality also?

Now, I have no opinion about this movie. Regardless of whatever quality the movie is, regardless of what group it is, any person who releases anything deserves props. It is a whole lot more than most of the people here do. You have no right to flame and insult over it. You can say "yeah the quality of this isnt good, sound sucks, blah blah blah im gay" if you want, but frankly these groups are doing infinitely more than you are. You can sit back and leech shit all you want, and be proud of knowing that you contribute absolutely nothing to the scene. Until you do, nobody wants to hear what you have to say about groups or scene politics, so once again, keep your mouth shut.

I give props to Centr0py for this release, keep up the good work. It's nice to see you guys back.

I hope that some of the little children, and some of the adults who just like to act like children, will read this post and maybe learn a thing or two from it. Chill out, keep this place good. And no, this is not a flame targetting anyone in specfic, but I would like to see this forum kept at a level where its still usable (unlike ISONEWS).

Peace.

-Flare-

Usually I don't have a problem with long replys but I have to say shut the hell up, I guess you just wanted your 15 loooong boring min. of fame in this forum. You talk about people wanting to be the man, you think your an authority figure don't you? Thats why i'm telling you to shut the fuck up. I will never listen to you, and hopefully no one else will ever listen to you DADDY. Hey daddy, your either a guy who keeps sucking on his momma's titties can you get enough of that? or your a female in that case you need to get laid. Most people in here keep a civil conversation, so what people have a discussion in here. its not for you to say no0b

Posted by LMB on 02-03-2003 12:46 AM:

Flar3on,

The internet is one big playground for the immature. All of us are a little immature, conceded, and have an enormous ego to coincide. There are alot of people in this world that think they are "the man, the top dawg, the big dude", and there is no stopping that, so why question it? I realize that these groups are putting a hell of alot of work and time into these releases, but are they doing anything to change the world for the better? No, these releases are just for fun, thus I don't really care that they are doing "infinitely more", and infinitely more illegal (in a sense), than I am. Whoopity-doo.

I do, however, agree that Centropy deserves 'props' for their contributions to the scene.

Thanks for the lecture,
LMB

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-03-2003 01:08 AM:

Threads like these always give me a good chuckle, its as if these peoples live revolve solely around downloading films off the internet, go out and get some fuckin' sunshine.

Posted by OzZyOz on 02-03-2003 01:25 AM:

What is this "Sunshine" that you talk about please let me know lol as for this release umm 6/5/7. Movie was kew.

Posted by phoR20 on 02-03-2003 01:43 AM:

kid rock can suk it

fuck a kid rock.....
in my eyes, his transition from rap to rock blew bo-weevil cock...

come on Kid..................

what ever happened to yodelin in the valley???????????/

Posted by Assai|ant on 02-03-2003 01:43 AM:

ctp drop the svcd ts already. why svcd for quality thats not even that great. save your svcd for dvds.

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Posted by LMB on 02-03-2003 02:26 AM:

Hardly any sunshine this week, too bad
And no, my life doesn't revolve solely around downloading movies...it also includes music

I like how certain people believe that others have no life although they have never actually met the person and know absolutely nothing about them. These people who's lives revolve solely around downloading movies might be the most outgoing people in the world and only spend a few minutes at a time on the computer.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-03-2003 03:36 AM:

let it shine

I am the Main mother fucker, I am GOD. lol. I love being fictional characters, I went as GOD for halloween once, man i got so many old people pissed at me.

The sun has been shining quite abit through the rain and snow we have been having, Hell the farmers almanac has predicted there were gonna get a blizzard withen 2 weeks from now. I can't wait, that would be great.

You know heres what it comes down to CTP released a very stupid movie, and mainly teenie boppers will like it, and nothing is being released right now so we have nothing to really comment on so were making conversation in this thread. This is sad, Ok now that we all have accomplished i'm about to pass out, i will read what i wrote later, i'm sure it doesn't make since.

Posted by LMB on 02-03-2003 04:28 AM:

I like typing. It makes clicking noises.

CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK

like that. Fun stuff.

Posted by w33d on 02-03-2003 05:00 AM:

bout time!!! :P
welcome back

Posted by DeathChilde on 02-03-2003 05:50 AM:

Ya typing makes clicking noises??? Check for broken keyboard!!!!

Posted by apaman on 02-03-2003 06:18 AM:

Just sampled this and must say not to bad of quality, could of dropped the svcd a vcd would have done right for this rip a bit screwed up video great sound really really bad movie.
Props for the rip
5/6/3

Posted by Flar30n on 02-03-2003 07:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LMB
Flar3on,

The internet is one big playground for the immature. All of us are a little immature, conceded, and have an enormous ego to coincide. There are alot of people in this world that think they are "the man, the top dawg, the big dude", and there is no stopping that, so why question it? I realize that these groups are putting a hell of alot of work and time into these releases, but are they doing anything to change the world for the better? No, these releases are just for fun, thus I don't really care that they are doing "infinitely more", and infinitely more illegal (in a sense), than I am. Whoopity-doo.

I do, however, agree that Centropy deserves 'props' for their contributions to the scene.

Thanks for the lecture,
LMB

Yes, I absolutely agree with you on that, but unfortunately it does degrade the quality of the forums. I mean, do you read these forums to hear about the movie or to hear about how elite parasticgannon must be? I come here for the releases and the releases alone. Yeah, of course this is all for fun, it is like a sport for internet junkies. I myself fully agree with that. But then in the same sense, do you give props to professional football players for their talent and effort? Of course. All I am sayin is that nobody deserves to be trashed. If a release sucks it sucks, and I think it is right to say that, but to trash a group all the time for something ... I just think thats wrong.

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon

Usually I don't have a problem with long replys but I have to say shut the hell up, I guess you just wanted your 15 loooong boring min. of fame in this forum. You talk about people wanting to be the man, you think your an authority figure don't you? Thats why i'm telling you to shut the fuck up. I will never listen to you, and hopefully no one else will ever listen to you DADDY. Hey daddy, your either a guy who keeps sucking on his momma's titties can you get enough of that? or your a female in that case you need to get laid. Most people in here keep a civil conversation, so what people have a discussion in here. its not for you to say no0b

I dont care at all about fame on this forum bro

I never said I was an authority figure either. You are the only person who just said that.

Great, don't listen to me, and then it is because of people exactly like you who make it so the rest of the real people who use this forum for its true purpose have to scroll through hundreds of replies of "stfu im elite" "no you stfu IM elite" "NO YOU STFU IM ELITE". Great, we dont care at all.

Also, I would think it is very easy to say that from your response that you are a noob. Is this a bad thing? Nope, not at all. Everyone is a noob at some point, even the people who do become "elite" (geeze I hate that word so much, it is so overused by little kiddies like parasiticgannon) in the scene. Do you think that you are making this site a better place by posting like this? Honestly, stop what you are doing, sit back, and think about that for a second. Do you enjoy what you do here? If so, then fine, keep doing it, and realize that everyone else just thinks that you are a jackass. I dont know if you go to school or work or whatever, but what do you think would happen if you went out into one of those places and just talked as freely as you do here to people? I assure you, you would get your ass beat. You may think that you are the shit and that you do not need to have any etiquette because you can hide behind your computer screen, and all the props to ya for it. You must be the coolest person on earth, Mr. Non-Noob, Mr. I Don't Listen To Common Sense, Mr. The Man. If you thought about it, you would realize the point in what I am saying.

So do what you want, I don't really care. I am not trying to lecture at all. I am voicing my opinion, just like all the other jackasses on this forum do, just that my opinion is very much against all the other jackasses

Do what you want, but maybe, just maybe, you should try to think before you act.

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-03-2003 08:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LMB
[B]Hardly any sunshine this week, too bad
And no, my life doesn't revolve solely around downloading movies...it also includes music

Dont forget porn

Posted by Bud-man on 02-03-2003 12:38 PM:

Looks shitty just a cleaned up version of Esoteric's barely...sound very low....why the SVCD?....leave dvd rips for svcd and stop wasting everyones bandwith....wont even play on my comp apex plays fine, both windvd and powerdvd just sit there...weird encode..oh well.....no big deal for this crap

Posted by buttheaduk on 02-03-2003 01:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bud-man
Looks shitty just a cleaned up version of Esoteric's barely...sound very low....why the SVCD?....leave dvd rips for svcd and stop wasting everyones bandwith....wont even play on my comp apex plays fine, both windvd and powerdvd just sit there...weird encode..oh well.....no big deal for this crap

If you dont like their SVCD version dont fucking downlolad it! This is why they release samples, so you can see what its like before you grab it!

Posted by LMB on 02-03-2003 02:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wibble

Dont forget porn

wooooooo

Posted by jaoal on 02-03-2003 02:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bud-man
Looks shitty just a cleaned up version of Esoteric's barely...sound very low....why the SVCD?....leave dvd rips for svcd and stop wasting everyones bandwith....wont even play on my comp apex plays fine, both windvd and powerdvd just sit there...weird encode..oh well.....no big deal for this crap

Yeah, all that detail was magicall added from NOWHERE.

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Posted by Redemption on 02-03-2003 03:29 PM:

What is it with you guys, most people would want Centropy to start releasing again, and when they do, loads of you moan that its a SVCD, CTP have done SVCD TS's for a while now and they are always better quality.

Most stuff looks better on SVCD, VHS is superior to VCD so looks better on SVCD, and a good DV cam looks a lot better on SVCD than it does on VCD.

The people who are moaning are only doing it cause they're on a low connection and/or dont have a DVD player that will play SVCD.

This is nice quality and i hope there more like it to come, shame about the film though.

Oh and it works fine on Power DVD for me.

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-03-2003 03:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by LMB

I like how certain people believe that others have no life although they have never actually met the person and know absolutely nothing about them. These people who's lives revolve solely around downloading movies might be the most outgoing people in the world and only spend a few minutes at a time on the computer.

Im sure they are.

Posted by HoldDaSalad on 02-03-2003 04:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Flar30n

Yes, I absolutely agree with you on that, but unfortunately it does degrade the quality of the forums. I mean, do you read these forums to hear about the movie or to hear about how elite parasticgannon must be? I come here for the releases and the releases alone. Yeah, of course this is all for fun, it is like a sport for internet junkies. I myself fully agree with that. But then in the same sense, do you give props to professional football players for their talent and effort? Of course. All I am sayin is that nobody deserves to be trashed. If a release sucks it sucks, and I think it is right to say that, but to trash a group all the time for something ... I just think thats wrong.

I dont care at all about fame on this forum bro I never said I was an authority figure either. You are the only person who just said that. Great, don't listen to me, and then it is because of people exactly like you who make it so the rest of the real people who use this forum for its true purpose have to scroll through hundreds of replies of "stfu im elite" "no you stfu IM elite" "NO YOU STFU IM ELITE". Great, we dont care at all.

Also, I would think it is very easy to say that from your response that you are a noob. Is this a bad thing? Nope, not at all. Everyone is a noob at some point, even the people who do become "elite" (geeze I hate that word so much, it is so overused by little kiddies like parasiticgannon) in the scene. Do you think that you are making this site a better place by posting like this? Honestly, stop what you are doing, sit back, and think about that for a second. Do you enjoy what you do here? If so, then fine, keep doing it, and realize that everyone else just thinks that you are a jackass. I dont know if you go to school or work or whatever, but what do you think would happen if you went out into one of those places and just talked as freely as you do here to people? I assure you, you would get your ass beat. You may think that you are the shit and that you do not need to have any etiquette because you can hide behind your computer screen, and all the props to ya for it. You must be the coolest person on earth, Mr. Non-Noob, Mr. I Don't Listen To Common Sense, Mr. The Man. If you thought about it, you would realize the point in what I am saying.

So do what you want, I don't really care. I am not trying to lecture at all. I am voicing my opinion, just like all the other jackasses on this forum do, just that my opinion is very much against all the other jackasses Do what you want, but maybe, just maybe, you should try to think before you act.

Your right, honestly I agree with you dude, You totally missed my point. If you took the time to notice i was being extremely sarcastic "I am GOD." I am about the same in person as i am on the computer I've only gotten my ass beat a few times in my life but hell it was worth it, lost a few girlfriends for being an ass. Since i insulted you, you slashed back at me didn't you? yes you did, its a common defence. we all do it so I don't blame you. If you read alot of my posts i try to piss people off alot of the time, just to see if i get rises out of people for stupid reasons like calling someone a noob. In my sociolgy course you guys are all giving me an A. I'm sorry to say that but this forum shows how people really are. attack attack for opinions. People want to be so opinionated and show there ass all the time, But i have a very unique way of looking at things. Honestly dude i appreciate your post, it shows that some people are intellegent enough to point out the obvious, thats not an insult. alot of people just feed off of the obvious without realizing. I will admit i'm not an English major. lol.

Posted by m-drew on 02-03-2003 04:39 PM:

I always thought TS and SVCD didnt mix together.

DVDRip and SVCD = Yes
TS, Telecine, Cam and SVCD = No

Waste of bandwidth and WOW.... Centropy.... WOW WOW!

Go hide in your corner again for a couple more months, we dont want your CAM SVCDs.. thanks

Posted by buttheaduk on 02-03-2003 05:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by m-drew
I always thought TS and SVCD didnt mix together.

DVDRip and SVCD = Yes
TS, Telecine, Cam and SVCD = No

Waste of bandwidth and WOW.... Centropy.... WOW WOW!

Go hide in your corner again for a couple more months, we dont want your CAM SVCDs.. thanks

Nope, A lame wanker named m-drew dosent want it and only wants to whine that his 28k AOL account cant handle it!

(thinks this thread should be locked!)

Posted by Phantasmical on 02-03-2003 06:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by buttheaduk

Nope, A lame wanker named m-drew dosent want it and only wants to whine that his 28k AOL account cant handle it!

(thinks this thread should be locked!)

I think you're right about both, butthead.

Posted by Natural on 02-03-2003 07:02 PM:

color is not that hard to fix. if they waited 2 months to release another ts, why not wait the extra 4 hours and fix that shit up a bit. no excuse comin from a group as old as they are. that being said, it's not a bad ts by any means. sound volumn is low (also should have been fixed by them) but it's still good. nice release, but i'm a little confused why some of the blatant faults were left untouched

Posted by backoff on 02-04-2003 01:29 AM:

Seriously ENOUGH! 84 posts on some crap movie like this.... Yes Centropy released it and yes they are good, but EVERYONE should know that. I think that you should stop the Centropy's back BS you dont know that yet... They havent released more than 2 TS's in 4 months!!! How do you see that as being back. I do hope they come back, but dont be saying shit that isnt true until you have the facts. It is getting quite annoying. Enough said.

Posted by CaptainPooHat on 02-04-2003 06:01 AM:

jus watched movie

film was crap, but pic was great for a ts ..audio a little low, but no biggie

8/5/2 <--based on it being a ts!

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Posted by your name here on 02-04-2003 08:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ArchdemoN
that guy with the 1000 word reply.
im sure noone gives a shit what u do in the 'real' world...

u make motorcycles u must either be a dike, or seriously gay.

i meen dude seriously stfu at least he is doing something constructive besides bitching about other peoples posts not making any sense what so ever

and if u said anything about motocyclists around my neighborhood u would get your ass handed to u

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How are you rating the video and audio without actually having the movie????

Posted by realized on 02-04-2003 11:28 AM:

good try

well knowing c******* they are going to cry after they see this post and 'go internal' again..

the quality of the video does suck(which they state in the nfo), but you gota ask yourself, why release such a shitty ts when there already is a better ts rls'd ..

hopefully this isn't a bad joke and just a bad mistake on centropy's end...

oh well, the quality of this TS sucks.. hopefully your next one will be better...

Posted by jaoal on 02-04-2003 03:44 PM:

Re: good try

quote:
Originally posted by realized
why release such a shitty ts when there already is a better ts rls'd ..

What TS are you reffering to? The one by SWS that was so blurry you could hardly make out the actors, or the one by ESOTERIC, which had a bad AR and sound that sounded like it was capped with a mic in an empty theatre?

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Posted by buttheaduk on 02-04-2003 06:02 PM:

Re: good try

quote:
Originally posted by realized
well knowing c******* they are going to cry after they see this post and 'go internal' again..

the quality of the video does suck(which they state in the nfo), but you gota ask yourself, why release such a shitty ts when there already is a better ts rls'd ..

hopefully this isn't a bad joke and just a bad mistake on centropy's end...

oh well, the quality of this TS sucks.. hopefully your next one will be better...

Watch the fucking samples before you speak!

Posted by submarine on 02-04-2003 07:03 PM:

Re: good try

quote:
Originally posted by realized
well knowing c******* they are going to cry after they see this post and 'go internal' again..

the quality of the video does suck(which they state in the nfo), but you gota ask yourself, why release such a shitty ts when there already is a better ts rls'd ..

hopefully this isn't a bad joke and just a bad mistake on centropy's end...

oh well, the quality of this TS sucks.. hopefully your next one will be better...

the funny thing is, u actualyl believe centropy reads what the fuck goes on, on vcdquality. u really seem to think that thye give a shit what a inbred country hick like u has to say.

video was decent, audio was muffeled. watachable yes

6/5/2

Posted by lo.pro on 02-04-2003 07:32 PM:

Re: Re: good try

quote:
Originally posted by submarine

the funny thing is, u actualyl believe centropy reads what the fuck goes on, on vcdquality. u really seem to think that thye give a shit what a inbred country hick like u has to say.

video was decent, audio was muffeled. watachable yes

6/5/2

hehe you don't understand much about ego if you think that almost every member of every movie release group doesn't read what's posted here, at least sometimes :p

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Posted by AzErTy on 02-04-2003 08:22 PM:

Re: Re: Re: good try

quote:
Originally posted by lo.pro
hehe you don't understand much about ego if you think that almost every member of every movie release group doesn't read what's posted here, at least sometimes

What ????

I was understanding that all the members here are so "1337" they are all members of the groups anyways :Q

Posted by jaoal on 02-04-2003 10:18 PM:

Re: Re: Re: good try

quote:
Originally posted by lo.pro
hehe you don't understand much about ego if you think that almost every member of every movie release group doesn't read what's posted here, at least sometimes

Who knows, maybe lo.pro is Centropy! Or even I am, hah?

*looks around nervously*

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Posted by hacku on 02-05-2003 12:36 AM:

quote:
If u ppl want to see real men race with their lives in the balance while they put their bodies on the ground in a controlled crash

Controlled crash? If it's a controlled crash, then why don't they avoid it all together? lol

oh... ummm good release CTP, hope to see more coming soon...

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Posted by Twista on 02-05-2003 03:26 PM:

good try
well knowing c******* they are going to cry after they see this post and 'go internal' again..

the quality of the video does suck(which they state in the nfo), but you gota ask yourself, why release such a shitty ts when there already is a better ts rls'd ..

hopefully this isn't a bad joke and just a bad mistake on centropy's end...

oh well, the quality of this TS sucks.. hopefully your next one will be better...

Should actually wacth the full disks before typing, not just the fucking sample.. I tought it was a really good ts, audio is a bit low, but just put the volume up.. Good shot CTP.. 7/7/7 I like stupid biker movies.....good try

Posted by strawhair on 02-06-2003 05:57 PM:

Re: Re: Do you realize you guys just ruin this site?

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon

Usually I don't have a problem with long replys but I have to say shut the hell up, I guess you just wanted your 15 loooong boring min. of fame in this forum. You talk about people wanting to be the man, you think your an authority figure don't you? Thats why i'm telling you to shut the fuck up. I will never listen to you, and hopefully no one else will ever listen to you DADDY. Hey daddy, your either a guy who keeps sucking on his momma's titties can you get enough of that? or your a female in that case you need to get laid. Most people in here keep a civil conversation, so what people have a discussion in here. its not for you to say no0b

the usual mature reply again then-i actually agree with that other guy-these forums are just becoming a damn joke.
6/6/2 for the movie

Posted by lo.pro on 02-06-2003 08:16 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: good try

quote:
Originally posted by jaoal

Who knows, maybe lo.pro is Centropy! Or even I am, hah? :eek:
*looks around nervously*

pffft! :p

i think not.

Posted by MinisterSiniste on 02-07-2003 12:17 AM:

I, for one am very glad to see CTP releasing. On the other hand I will have to wait for a movie I could tolerate watching beofre I see if they're back to their old good quality tricks again.
Mr Sin

Posted by KrackZaa on 02-07-2003 06:08 AM:

Best version yet

Although Biker Boyz is not a good film, the Centropy ts svcd is definitely the best quality, I know since I have the esoteric and viewed the sample of sws. The picture is decent, the svcd is an attempt to explore what is out there with telesyncs and svcd, although the size is bloated I feel the quality is improved. Thanks centropy for the movie. 8/7/3

Posted by Rizel on 02-07-2003 01:23 PM:

Better than the rest of the releases, good to see CTP back again, for what ever reason they went away for before i just hope they stick around this time, VCD or SVCD does'nt bother me. Rizel

Posted by CcZ on 02-08-2003 02:39 AM:

best release...crap movie! 7/7/0.5

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