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Not exactly great. But as nfo says, it will do. Been a long time coming but will shut everybody up at last.

7/7/9

looks good for a WS Screener.

7/7/10

sounds qwite clear and picture is what u aspect from a vhs screener anyway think gonna wait for the dvdscr or think just gonna buy it when comes out still nice rls from a new rls group it seems even if this is only gonna be there only rls

7/8/10

decent

decent screener, 7/8/10

why was this thread locked for a bit?

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still nice rls from a new rls group

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anyway think gonna wait for the dvdscr or think just gonna buy it when comes out
7/8/10

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Awesome movie, can't wait for the DVDs...

7/8.5/9

I agree on the SVCD topic, these should be SVCD'ed.

Anyway, its just a screener, which is nothing to get all fucked in the head about. But, hey, if LOTR is your thing, more power to you...

Video is nice, widescreened, a little bit of pixelisation. 7

Audio is also nice, no buzz or distortion (at least on my standalone), but not perfect, its a VHS. 8.

Movie, didn't see, trying to avoid. ?

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Not bad Screener.
6/7/9

Video is pixeled to the max!
Sound is clear tho.

I am waiting for dvdscr

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Not bad Screener.
6/7/9

Video is pixeled to the max!
Sound is clear tho.

I am waiting for dvdscr

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sure, a 7cd svcd =P

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video and sound are both decent, id be happy to see a dvdscreener of this but I think its unlikely.
7/7/9

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Doubt its a new release group , a release like this may be big news so a decent well known group has probably just released this under an assumed name

Ho hum
Most over-rated piece of trash trilogy finally comes to an end until the extended bullshit dvd's come out .
screeners nice if you are 5 years old and like these films .
Shoot me if you like but it should be SVCD 'cos it pixelates like crazy during the battle scene
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anyone else have trouble playing this in PowerDVD? it goes crazy and skips like 5 minutes every second

all my other players play it fine

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Good copy. Should have at least processed the video as 23.976 though...

7/7/8

i SPEFICALLY DOWNLOADED CD 3... to check out their claim.. and yes its a bit pixelated BUT i bet any amount of money the tv will clean that right up.. a normal vhs screener for sure... and hey jack valenti can kiss our ass, because we got all the big budget movies now.. so =P eat that.. o and DONT SUE FUCKING CARMINE CARDIDI YOU ASSHOLES.... DUDE IS COOL FOR HOOKING THE SCENE UP..

lotr

ill give this a 6/6/10

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props to ring for being the first to break a screener... I know I've been waiting for it

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video res is clearly vhs quality, but its fine. colors are nice. theres a flashing white line along the bottom, as though the tracking was a bit off. sound is average vhs fare, but certainly better than any ts so far, and I imagine it wont suffer from any mixing problems, seen especially in logistics release. the movie is great. if it doesnt get best picture it'll be a crime.

can anyone with the full thing tell me if the white thing on the bottom stays the whole way through? are there any text messages during the film?

7/8/9.5

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Perfectly acceptable release..... nice sound, nice colours, bit pixelated, but hey

props on getting it out .... somebody needed to do it to shut everyone up

everyone posting in this thread expect to get pm's regarding how to get it :P

white dot is there throughout movie.... and a property of message is displayed now and then

7/8/7

not the best of the trilogy, but whether you enjoy the films or not you have to respect everything peter jackson has done

This has been a long time coming, but was it worth the wait? You bet your as!
OK, so 'only' a VHS screener, but hey, it'll do me just nicely until it comes out proper & I can then buy it

Picture does pixelate from time to time, but it's not as bad as I was expecting.
Sound is very nice, all my speakers were booming!

Well done RiNG on getting it out. Very nice indeed

6/8/9

I've only seen most of the first disk but so far I thought it was a very good (vcd) vhs screener. A bit of pixilation is going to be expected on a vcd...but it was an excellent rip in my opinion. As far as a some people out there wishing it was a svcd....

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sure, a 7cd svcd =P

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not the best of the trilogy, but whether you enjoy the films or not you have to respect everything peter jackson has done

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decent. better than a TS. CVD would rock

this is a good encode from VHS I love it.
4CDs ist ok for the movie, the good thing its i can make a multi
language *fg*
I love the movie in engl. but german is a bit better for me.
so props to RiNG
(only saw the sample)

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Originally posted by cofferscuffs
id prefer a cvd so i can burn onto dvdr

anyways nice ws scr, i still hate the farcical ending of the movie though
6/5/7

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As new poster just like to say I think this site is great!!
just downloaded the sample and it looks not bad

go see it in the movies its far better on the big screen

keep up the good work guys

A WORTHY RELEASE.

This is a great screener, I don't see why anyone is grading it low. And the little white line at the bottom of the screen. My God is like a grain long..How nick picky. And please stop dissing and disrespecting the writers and directors, when you can do no better. This was a great film. Long as hell. But great! And the trilogy is one of the best of all times. For some of us, who can appreciate and comprehend the story and concept. For all the kiddies stick with disney. Great release by this group.

8/9/10 will definitely do until a dvdrip is available.
Better than all the telesync's and small promotion display about 3 times in the film. Nice overall looks great on the television.

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VEry nice rls good video and sound. very watchable...but it doesn't feel right watching this on non-dvd quality movie is just too good. anyways still a great rls good work ring. can't wait to buy this over the summer
7/8/10

well, this release is a little better than the logistic copy that has been available for over a month now. the sound is great, but the pic is only slightly better. i will wait for dvd or dvd-scr b4 i watch this flik again. thanks Ring. better late than never

7.5/8.5/9

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Well looks really good on a dvd player, hard to notice artifacts.. yes you see some but still pretty plained out from it.. good sound and color... even cd 3... and as for a dvd.. It wont be out til around august.. All the LOTR's have come out about august 26th.. so you got 7-8 months to wait man on that dvd...grab this now.. as dvdscreener or rip wont be any time soom.

Been waiting for this one thanks a lot the RING or who ever you are. This looks like a fearly respectable release will sute me just fine until a dvd leaks. The other thing is people forget that this little line and some of the picture can be clean up with some basic video editing.

Thanks RING a fine vhs release

Very good job 'RiNG' :P

8/8/10 (a little generous).

This is probably the best quality you are gonna get from a VCD. I would say any other VCD releases of this would be a complete waste of time. SVCD/CVD/DVD might be an idea, but please no more VCD's!!!

Cheers for the hard work you put into this one 'RiNG' :P.

I have my doubts as to whether or not there will even be a DVD Screener for this one, but it shouldn't be too long before the factories start churning out the Pre-Retails since they will need so many to stock the shelves they'll have to start soon!

Hehe.

My thoughts

well looking at the sample its a pretty solid screener. the onyl thing that got my eye was in the bottom of the picture the flash line

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Very good job 'RiNG' :P



This is probably the best quality you are gonna get from a VCD. I would say any other VCD releases of this would be a complete waste of time. SVCD/CVD/DVD might be an idea, but please no more VCD's!!!

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im torn on this one. its just not that much better than the logistic version, not for the 4 cd's. considering i know ill end up buying the first dvd set, then the extended set (im such a whore), then the obvious box set of all the movies, i think ill pass on this one. great job non the less.

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ok, well in future when you join a community that is very anti-sellers, you really should choose a username that isn't going to cause confusion and annoyance. its like joinin an arabic forum with the name BUSHRULES because you like the australian outback.

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good job on the screener

Good quality, will hold every off until the DVDR comes out ... which I'm sure what everyone's waiting on. Clear video, good audio, not too pixally, what more can you ask of a vhs screener ...

Looks ok for being WS, most of the time that's not the case, good job RiNG, mad props for this one

video = 8
audio = 8
movie = 10

thanks again

Very nice release. Video is very clear and better than half of the screeners released this season. Audio is near flawless.

Video - 8
Audio - 8
Movie - 10

pixelation of fast scenes was hardly noticeable on my standalone =) so im happy w/ this copy till the retail comes out which wont be till later LOL

8/8/10

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slightly blurry and pixelated but nothing major and was better on standalone, flashing light at bottom didn't show on my tv, good job and will watch tonight

Video - 7
Audio - 9
Movie - ?

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i agree. why are vhs scr always vcd wouldn't svcd get better quality out of the rls. just wondering

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Nice release RiNG.

Not bad for a VCD/VHS SCREENER.
Yeah as it's been said a CVD would be much better (SVCD would be a waste).

CVD gets almost no play in scene,... too bad it's great for VHS.

CD2 de-sync's half way through, but the film is still watchable.

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Hi,

are the end credits (with the drawings) in this release?
Thanks.

faust

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Originally posted by cofferscuffs
because 9 out of 10 times the quality of the tape does not justify a svcd. and after all, the source is a vhs....

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Hi,

are the end credits (with the drawings) in this release?
Thanks.

faust

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I watched the whole movie and thought that this release was a bit better than the logistic release. The sound was very good ...the picture although a little blurry was very good also. I would love a Svcd version of a better source...but this will hold me over until another screener or the DVD becomes available for purchase. I dont really care how many cd's this movie is on. If it is great quality it is worth it. I bought my first DVD burner this christmas for $79.99...they are becoming so cheap now. This is this perfect movie to convert to DVD+-R. All four cd's ....merge them and convert to one dvd. Its an excellent investment if you can get one cheap. I got the LiteOn DVDburner ...cheap ...but it works great so far.

Does anyone else notice the sync issues on CDs 2, 3, and 4? CD4 is clearly the worst, with the audio 2 seconds ahead of the video.

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Does anyone else notice the sync issues on CDs 2, 3, and 4? CD4 is clearly the worst, with the audio 2 seconds ahead of the video.

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The video quality is great on a TV. On computer it's kinda small.
There is some desynching starting in middle of CD 2 and continues on CD 3 and 4. It's still very watchable but if you don't like hearing sound 1 second ahead then don't get this one.

Video: 8 (a bit small)
Audio: 6 (desynched)
Movie: 9 (too long lol)

Watched the first three disc's today. As far as audio goes, the second was the worst that i saw, out of sync just enough to be annoying while wathcing it - but still very watchable. It got pretty pixlated on my computer when I tried to watch it, and the flashing white was kind of annoying - but watching it on my tv cleared all of that up, no flashing white strip or anything.

Pretty good release - I'll give it a 9/9/10, the overall quality was alot better than i was expecting.

hooom
I resynced the sound by muting one power DVD program and playing the logistic release on another. I have 2 DVD drives.

7/7/7 3rd installment not as good as the first two (imo)

Great quality for a vhs screener imho. Color is awesome; sound is very good; the de-synching is slightly annoying, but not nearly as bad as I've seen before. I new this would be released, eventually

8/8/9

6/8/7

i loved when we got the dvd screener of number 2 last year, that owned

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finally someone with actual movie intelligence....best trilogy my ass.


7/7/1 ....all of them blew so this only make sense to suck as well

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anyone else have trouble playing this in PowerDVD? it goes crazy and skips like 5 minutes every second

all my other players play it fine

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Great colour, great sound but the de-synch problems make it just too annoying to watch.

Is it possible that someone cleverer than me could resynch this?

I'd have to say 8/2/9

i havent even bothered to sit down and watch the 2nd one yet, lotr just doesnt interest me, its pretty boring (ok hurry lotr fans, quote that line and call me loser and noob) but i guess ill get this anyways cuz i can
7/8/2

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i havent even bothered to sit down and watch the 2nd one yet, lotr just doesnt interest me, its pretty boring (ok hurry lotr fans, quote that line and call me loser and noob) but i guess ill get this anyways cuz i can
7/8/2

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hmmm, I'm noticing something odd, I added up the times of each disk and coming up 8 minutes short, Also the end of disk 2 and the beginning of disk 3 are different scenes, Is that the way the movie was? I can't remember.

Movies.com clocks the movie at 210 minutes, I added up to 202 minutes. Is it me or what? I'm not saying any of the movie is missing, I'm asking cause I don't know. I only saw this movie in the theatre twice

hi all

i too have noticed the scene change from disc 2 to disc 3 at the end of disc 2 frodo is in a cave then it jumps to a fight scene and looks out of place does any 1 else have this problem?

many thanks

djtrixta

out of sync sound resolved

Ok well i may be new to all this but everyones complaining about out of sync sound

Inititally i did have this problem using tmpgenc and various others

But as soon as i started using WOMBLE vcr hey presto no out of sync sound and a great copy on dvd

Plays and looks like a dream

Hello everyone,

We should clear a few things up,

First, there is no missing scenes, just a bad transition from cd2 to cd3, at the file split. Frodo is helped by the Elf Witch and begins to walk through the cave, the next frames are to be black for the transition strait to the catapult scene with burning balls. It is all there.

Second, I just finish a 2 disc re-encode of this four disc release. There are sync problems for sure. A skew correction must be applied to each dat file, the worst, after converted to mpeg is cd1 with a -1500ms skew correction,cd2 and cd3 are somewhere around -60 to -300, and cd4 was the least at -35ms skew correction. After this correction all files can successfully be merged.
Use VirtualDub Mod to do the audio correction, fastest,easiest and has instant preview during adjustments.

And last, VHS resolution is actually above 352x480, or 1/2D1. But since it's vertical resolution doesn't fall into the "D" standard, it is best to cap at the 480 vertical in order to maintain the detail. 480 horizontal would be a false cap seeing the max is 352 for orig source. DVDscr can be cap that way due to the fact it originates at 720x480. After cap, one can encode it to any resolution they like. But it is best to get the initial cap to be the closest in quality as the original source.

Hope this clears up some things.

hi m8

cheers for the info at least the whole film is there

many thanks

djtrixta

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Ok well i may be new to all this but everyones complaining about out of sync sound

Inititally i did have this problem using tmpgenc and various others

But as soon as i started using WOMBLE vcr hey presto no out of sync sound and a great copy on dvd

Plays and looks like a dream

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Nice release. Garbage at the bottem, just like the kill bill VHS scr.

8/9/1

NICE!

extract mpg's from .bin files with isobuster, join mpg's with womble mpeg vcr , author with tmpgenc dvd, burn to dvd. NICE! Barely any snyc problems at all, only slight ones very rarely.

p.s. www.vcdhelp.com has all the guides and tools you need

looks ok, this is from the sample... 7/7/10.....

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this realease was a blessing, as mystic said we can all shutup now we got sumpin worth while for this blockbuster i give it a 7/8/10 if the movie could be rated higher then ten id give it a 50

I first used iso buster, then seperately made them mpeg with womble before merging them with womble. Then it was even less out of sync.

Nice release AGAIN keep up that good work@RING 8 / 8/ 9,5

I usually dont bother with vcds but since i really wanted to se this movie a second time i downloaded it..damn i wish i didnt cause the quality of this vhsrip is shit. I dont see how anyone can say this is remotly close to a vhs source, i mean sometimes it looks like a fucking cam.

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I dont see how anyone can say this is remotly close to a vhs source, i mean sometimes it looks like a fucking cam. [/B]

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Actually i watched it in 4:3 mode on my 16:9 set. I must say i havnt watched alot of vhsrips on vcd, but i have watched alot of vhs and vhsrips and this is subpar. Not only is it out of sync half of the time it is also pixlated and muddy.

I dont understand why they did not make an svcd or cvd.

IMHO, I'd rather see this release nuked. Poor tracking from the VHS source, and an altogether messy release resulting in several minutes missing from the movie!

I'm sad to say this, because I was looking forward to see this movie again. For now, I'll just stick around, waiting for a PROPER release.

peewee_sweden,

There are no missing minutes from this release, please point out what you think is missing.

As far as SVCD or CVD goes, how come people think if the resolution is greater, then that would take care of the pixelation problem in a capture.
Pixelation comes from capturing too much data at too small of a bitrate with too high of a frame rate, but the keyword is "bitrate".

If they couldn't get a clean capture of the data at 352x240, what makes anyone think it would be captured ok at a higher resolution, which is even more data?

Yes, 352x480 is an ideal resolution to cap VHS, but only if you can maintain the bitrate during your capture, other wise it's usless and the resulting file would actually look worse than if you captured it at a smaller resolution.

For those having a problem with the audio sync ...I did... cd1 and cd 3 gave me problems. A great way to check if an MPEG has sync problems is to run it through VirtualDub-Mpeg2. If it is in sync in that program then it should be in sync when you put it onto cd or dvd. If it isnt in sync then what I did is to run the Mpeg through TMPGENC which will in the end give you a perfectly audio sync'd Mpeg.

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For those having a problem with the audio sync ...I did... cd1 and cd 3 gave me problems. A great way to check if an MPEG has sync problems is to run it through VirtualDub-Mpeg2. If it is in sync in that program then it should be in sync when you put it onto cd or dvd. If it isnt in sync then what I did is to run the Mpeg through TMPGENC which will in the end give you a perfectly audio sync'd Mpeg.

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ShinSplint,

Hi, I agree with you, these problems should be adressed at the time of editiing, I mean they themselves say they were sitting on this for a long time, you would think they could have sat on it for abit longer and corrected the problems, isn't like there's 3 other groups releasing the screener.

But unforturnately, they didn't, and some would like to see this,(it is better than any TS), proper.

vinnyv07,

You can use that same VD mod to correct the audio faster than running a complete re-encode through TMPGEnc,(which doesn't always correct the problems).
In the audio settings use interleaving, adjust the skew, either + or - incriments, then preview each adjustment in VD until you get it synced, then save wav (now corrected), and run the corrected wav file through TMPGEnc, multiplex the audio with the orig vid and burn. 20 min per audio file transcoding is alot better than hours of re-encoding. To get you started the first cd needs a -1500ms skew correction. Make your adjustments in + or - 100ms incriments and as it gets closer to sync decrease the incriments.
It took me about an average of 12 minutes per file to correct the audio.

Hope this helps some of you.

You know I wish at times I had the sources these groups had when I see some of these releases, I can look at a release and tell whether or not the orig source was any good, even if the release is not. It kills me when I see perfectly good sources getting screwed up by inexpierenced encoders. I see all the time in their NFO's asking for 100mb dumbs, pre rel DVD's ect. when they should be asking for someone who knows what the hell their doing in the encoding field!! I mean I can take any source and edit, encode it and have it perfectly ready for release in under 2hours, but it took me years to get to that point. I have to ask myself, if I can fix their messed up releases in about 20min, how come they couldn't do it too. I guess the days when Screeners were released in avi format,( because VCD's and SVCD's weren't even popular let alone play in a DVD player), by the old Centropy, TCF,ect. are long gone.
But I guess everyones an expert in that field already.

PS: cd 4 is -35ms, I forget what the other two are , somewhere around -65 and -350ms I think, too many numbrs in my head to remember, lol, sorry.
Also use the second play button, (third button from the left), in VD to preview, and of course audio must be set to full process.

Thanks for the tip, gfavored. I'll have to play around with it tonight and see if I can get things back in sync. If anyone has the skew settings for the other three discs, how about posting them and helping everyone out?

One wonders if this source came from the Carmine Caridi collection.

i dont know if anyone is going to read this post since the release has been out for a while, but i suggest people check out the internal reencode by stfu, its only 2 cds instead of 4 and it looks just the same. i dont know if its on irc but check out your sites it should be there.

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KrackZaa,

STFU's release is out of sync also, for info on STFU's release and also for a 2disc release that is in sync go here:


http://forum.sharereactor.com/viewt...78b81c1b9954b09

there are plenty of sources.

Agreed. The STFU release has sync issues as well and you can definately see the difference in video quality from the re-encode. I suggest grabbing GF's version or just fixing the sync yourself in VD.

You know what? I think the earlier poster was right... they should have NUKED this release and made these guys fix it themselves.

Credit needs to go to VideoCd for this great release. Even though the group that released it is Ring, when you use iso buster to extract the mpeg, the folder that it is in is labeled VideoCD. So I just want to thank Videocd for doing a great job on getting us this screener!!!!

:: so the label can't be referring to VideoCD as in, y'know.. the format?

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...You can use that same VD mod to correct the audio faster than running a complete re-encode through TMPGEnc,(which doesn't always correct the problems).
In the audio settings use interleaving, adjust the skew, either + or - incriments, then preview each adjustment in VD until you get it synced, then save wav (now corrected), and run the corrected wav file through TMPGEnc, multiplex the audio with the orig vid and burn. 20 min per audio file transcoding is alot better than hours of re-encoding. To get you started the first cd needs a -1500ms skew correction. Make your adjustments in + or - 100ms incriments and as it gets closer to sync decrease the incriments.
It took me about an average of 12 minutes per file to correct the audio.


PS: cd 4 is -35ms, I forget what the other two are , somewhere around -65 and -350ms I think, too many numbrs in my head to remember, lol, sorry.
Also use the second play button, (third button from the left), in VD to preview, and of course audio must be set to full process.

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mikeymcd,

You have to transcode the audio through TMPGEnc, load the wav, select audio only and run it. It takes an average of 12min per file to do. It converts the wav to mpeg, then you can multiplex.

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mikeymcd,

You have to transcode the audio through TMPGEnc, load the wav, select audio only and run it. It takes an average of 12min per file to do. It converts the wav to mpeg, then you can multiplex.

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mikeymcd,

Glad to hear it, how long did it take u total to correct the files, the way I said to?

Glad to help

gfavored --

Thanx for the tips. I got my stuff syncd exactly as you said. I was wondering how difficult/long it is to make a 2 or 3 disk version from myself. I don't want to download again so I want to make my own 2 or 3 disk version. I guess 3 disk would be lossless and 2 would by lossy? (Since the total size of all 4 disk must exceed the 1400Mb space available on two disks).

Does it take hours and hours of processing time? (To merge and cut the files).

Would you mind posting your process?

BTW I got one disk syncd in about 45 min -> 15 minutes for VDub to extract wave, 12 minutes to convert to mp2, and 8 minutes to multiplex. Plus about 10 minutes to find the sync + or - values.

Thanks, your tips have been very useful.

how do ya transcode in Tmpgenc? i'm able to get the whole movie on a dvd-r. but the audio is badly out of sync. when i just burn the bin file, it seems okay. so i'm trying to fix it like previous posts suggested, but don't know how to transcode before multiplexing. any info would be greatly appreciated.

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mikeymcd,

Glad to hear it, how long did it take u total to correct the files, the way I said to?

Glad to help

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csguy hi,

I don't believe this is the forum for this topic, and am really surprised I haven't been bitched at yet, lol. There are alot of good forums and guides for that though check out Doom9 for a start, and my favorite VCDhelp or DVD-R Help.

But it depends on alot of things, the Encoding engine you are using, how much Ram you have, your CPU speed and if you use multi-pass or constant quality, or automatic VBR constant quality, if the encoder has those features.
You must use VBR instead of CBR to get a 3+ hour movie on 2disc.
The math just doesn't work for CBR, it's impossible.

At this time there is only one source that I'm aware of that has audio sync and it also happens to be a 2disc release, and it's not the STFU release, lol, but I put a link with the info above.
It may be faster to dl than to try a re-encode that you haven't tried before. But if it were me, I'd take the time and learn it by doing it, . Practice does make perfect.

mikeymcd,

That time will decrease as you do more , when it becomes second nature, instead of an educated guess,


enjoy the movie

PS: can one of you guys help out mooch49 now.

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Originally posted by mooch49
how do ya transcode in Tmpgenc? i'm able to get the whole movie on a dvd-r. but the audio is badly out of sync. when i just burn the bin file, it seems okay. so i'm trying to fix it like previous posts suggested, but don't know how to transcode before multiplexing. any info would be greatly appreciated.

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excellente............worked like a charm. thanks a bunch mikeymcd for the tip.

I’ve been trying to get the film onto 3 CDs (since I have some 800MB discs). I used Womble-VCR to perfectly join and sync the 4 parts, after which I hoped to slit the film into 3 with fade ins/outs for each part.

All goes well until I try to save the new files…I end up with no audio. This seems to happen when the files are larger than 600MB or longer than 57 minutes. What am I doing wrong Is there some limit on the size of split VCD-compliant mpegs?

Well props to ring whovever they may be for getting this out and satisfying alot of eager people ...... the video is pixelated at times especially in action scenes but the audio is sounding hot on my standalone ...... this will hold me over till retail cuz there is a slim to none chance we will be seeing a dvdscr of this ...... i give the video a 7 a little better then logistics but not much but audio is pretty damn good here i give it a 9 ...... And the movie well its good but not as good as the previous 2 to me anywayz ..... i give it a 8

Alright now this is what i've been waiting for. An Academy Screener of Return of the King and its Widescreen to boot. A few minor problem drag down the quality of an otherwise excellent rls. Yeah I'd prefer DVDscr, but its not gonna happen this year. Pic is actually pretty good for only being VCD. Although I must admit a stand alone dvd player does it much better justice than PowerDVD. No white line on my TV. There is a slight out of sync audio issue on disk 3, but they tell you that in the NFO, so oh well. Overall if you got the bw and time. Download this you won't be sorry.

Video-7.8 (Better than I thought for VCD, a little blurry and pixelated especially disk 3
Audio-8 (very direct audio, no probs except disk 3
Movie-9.5

P.S. Anyone else notice a missing piece between end of CD2 and start CD3. Mine goes from him rounding the corner of Spider cave to amisdt the battle at gondor, then back to him rounding the corner. Just curious if its my copy

obi_robz hi,

No there are no limitations, except for the 2gig file limitations that 95 and some 98 Window versions have.

What are u using to cut the file. I suggest you use TMPGEnc's mpeg tools, merge and cut feature.


bcool2k,

Hi check out the top of page 4, .

All goes well until I try to save the new files…I end up with no audio. This seems to happen when the files are larger than 600MB or longer than 57 minutes. What am I doing wrong Is there some limit on the size of split VCD-compliant mpegs? [/B][/QUOTE]

I had the same problem with disc 1 and 3 (the ones where I'd changed the audio). TMPGEnc wouldn't accept the (modified) mpg as an audio source.

I had to demux, convert the sound to a wav in SoundForge and then remux.

Hi all! I don't quite understand this out of sync-thing that is discussed here. If I watch the ROTK-movie in Powerdvd or on my standalone it doesn't matter - this problem really confuses me big time:

The problem is that the sound is in sync in the beginning of the disc, but after a while it sorta "slides" away. And so at the end on each of the four (but especially cd2 & cd4) discs it's like 1 second out of sync. If i correct the problem like gfavored advices so that it is in sync at the end - then naturally it is bad at the beginning. Am I totally out of line here or does anybody else have the same problem?

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Originally posted by raps99

Credit needs to go to VideoCd for this great release. Even though the group that released it is Ring, when you use iso buster to extract the mpeg, the folder that it is in is labeled VideoCD. So I just want to thank Videocd for doing a great job on getting us this screener!!!!

:: so the label can't be referring to VideoCD as in, y'know.. the format?

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Audioscrobbler is awesome!

safetydance hi,

What has to be done is each dat file gets converted to an mpeg file first, so that you start with 4 mpeg files.
After converting you will notice that it is not cd4 that has the worst sync, but cd1, and that being right from the start. The opposite to the orig dat's, or original final playback.

To correct the playback one must correct the skew, seeing the sync is off from the beginning of the files, but the skew must be corrected for each file. You must be very careful to make sure that the audio has been synced, when making the adjustments. See how your correction plays at different parts of the file,(beginning, middle, and end), as you preview, preferably where there is a closeup of someone talking, +or- 50ms can throw off the final audio playback in the whole movie,even though it was off only in one file, but it would be gradual.

What we are doing is not a matter of just syncing one part of the file or another part. When interleaving, and adjusting skew, the physical audio blocks of the entire file are affected, either by every 1 frame or by every 1 ms.

1000ms = 1sec

In the original encode there were more than likely bad key frames resulting from the file splits, these can cause a movie file to play back slower than it should as the movie progresses. Hence causing a sync problem with the audio of the whole movie.

I hope this helps


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What a sweet movie. I saw it in theaters and think its totally worth owning, along with the other two.

Just to let all that who dnt know...

there IS approximately 9 of missing video in rings release...

I have confirmed this with Gfavored...

Although you're not missing anything significant apaprt from orcs running away and shots of mordor disintegrating its missing...

check the original thread here: HERE

yeye, ok stuff :} But I'm glad I didn't get it for myself, because then I would waste a coulpe of CD's, the TC is too gosu
Still this is an ok rip, looks fine enough, sound is ok+

7/7/9