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Nice idea, but at the end of the day it's still a telesync and it's still a DVD-R and bw going to waste.

Maybe when drives become cheaper, disks become cheaper and everyone is on a decent internet connection it won't matter so much. But for now, i'd say, nice taster and a good movie to try it out on. Leave it at that.

X/X/7

Wow nice work guys, sample looks really good, sound is amazing and NO bad angle. Greets go out to TGSC for the nice dd 5.1 sound and to CTP for the nice TS.

7/10/8

nuke

this is gonna be a nuke because dvdr scene demands dvd source for dvdr release, maybe a different rule for ctp?

it deserves to be anyway , its still pish for a dvdr and if this is a standard setting every joe and his mamma will be rlsing crappy TS_DVDR , i just check the sample it is still bright onthe whiter bits etc etc etc ,,, thunbs down for defo on this lame release

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this is gonna be a nuke because dvdr scene demands dvd source for dvdr release, maybe a different rule for ctp?

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hmm 2 languages

englisch & german ?

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it deserves to be anyway , its still pish for a dvdr and if this is a standard setting every joe and his mamma will be rlsing crappy TS_DVDR , i just check the sample it is still bright onthe whiter bits etc etc etc ,,, thunbs down for defo on this lame release

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omg! a dvd telesync! LOL

Its the same source or what cause if its got an angle i dont kno..

Just grabbed the sample. GREAT STUFF! Best telesync i've ever seen and very appropiate. 10/10/9

Excellent release, just grabbed the sample and beats any other version hands down - no bad angle and great colours.. maybe its time we dropped vcd and svcd all together - it would suit me!

7/8.5/7

funky dvd telesync with nice animated scene selection menus

Hmm Centropy cropped a lot judging by the sample, did u guys heard about an iND release?

saw a huge mixed reaction in chan today. mostly from people without dvdr access, and without dvd burners mind

original svcd = ~2.23gb
dvdr = 4.4gb max

so say, dont download some horrible pdvd>svcd conversion by some unknown group, and download the dvdr and it's taken no longer. plus to me, its practically the same price to burn each copy (3xcdr80s (decent brand) here = about 60p, 2x DVDR = 65p )

if you have the sites, the bandwidth and the hardware, why not the addition of the dd5.1 soundtrack is the biggest advance the theater scene has seen in a long long time. sound on centropy releases should never drop below a 9.5 if they can keep this up.

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I think this is cool as hell! I dont see why anyone would flame what so ever. Ok you dont have dvd burner. Who cares. if you dont your a little behind the times, and Centropy doesnt give a shit if you dont have a dvd burner or not. This is probably what everyone said when they first started releasin SVCDs. Its gonna get nuked and all that crap, Its not worth blah blah blah. Well how wrong were all those jokers. JESUS!. Anyways, its got 5.1 sound thats killer. Once again Centropy is taking the scene to a new level. Maybe jokers who can't accept change as GOOD thing should go home and cry. And if you dont have a dvdr burner break open your piggy bank and buy one its not as if they are that expensive anymore. Get a job then, and if your a youngster ask for your birthday or save your weekly allowance. Because if your knocking the release due to not having a burner thats lame. Tell me a better TS then a Centropy TS with 5.1 sound on VCD/SVCD then I will say ok nuke it, its not worth it. Until then its the best TS to date PERIOD. And if your complaining of download speed and your downloading from a 56k connection jesus you got issues anyway. Any dsl/cable or above and dvdrs are no issue. I would like to believe that most people that have access to these downloads are on at leas a cable/dsl. SO what is the PROBLEM!

can someone post on the actual quality of the DVDR TS? Is it the last Centropy released on a DVDR or is this new source material? Plus, how did they get the 5.1 sound? More mics? Can't find the sample anywhere yet, so this is why I am asking...

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looks very good.. nice smooth playback and audio is very good..
kinda cool nice quality ts.. best ive seen..

ts = mic audio or direct audio? wonder too how they get 5.1?

ctp have never used mics. the amount of times the boom mics in the picture have been explained is getting beyond a joke now.

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what is ctp trying to do, make it easier for the azn silvers to put out there pirate dvd's i dont understand ctp svcd fair enough but dvdr? why and pho i have a dvd burner as u know but dont see the point of this

i haven't seen or heard this yet, but the 5.1 is most likely encoded through an dd encoder, I know theres a few on macs, also sonic had one on the pc a while back. Most likely a good audio track was ran through there and encoded to 5.1, it can be done rather easily. As for it being true 5.1, don't believe everything your receiver's lights tell you..

they got 5.1 sound because they were able to crack the DTS DISC. This is an incredible establishment as for i know ppl with dts discs for over a year and still havent cracked it. This is definetly one of the biggest break throughs ever in the scene if i shall say and hopefully they will pass the technology on. For ppl complaining, umm u actually think they wont rls the svcd with the same sound? they just gotta mux the vid with ac3 sound.

Picture is good 9/10/15.. i dont even think this should be called a ts, idk it needs a name cuz its alot better then direct audio.

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ok i wasn't aware that they cracked the dts disc, however this has been done before with sacd's, dts audio discs, and dvd audio, they have been cracked and put on regular cds.

Nice try, but no cigar. The first half is still to dark and picture quality is still laughable. Props on the case design and 5.1, a major feat IMO. Menus and chapterswere a treat also. In the end too much time and effort for something that you can get on the SVCD; just wait for a better copynext time and keep pioneering video experimentation.
PS: I think this is the first movie ever released that is just impossible to film with a CAM. Every copy is dark and the characters mostly appear solid black when wearing leather (grrr).

very nice

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Every Joe and his mother doesn't cam their own releases. Nor do they have the means to get 5.1 audio from in-theater movies.
While this may not be for everyone you should all appreciate the technical merit that has been accomplished here.

-jaoal


I totally agree.. If I were the one who spent hours putting this shit together for a 'community' of people to spread around i sure as hell wouldnt listen to the bullshit reply's on how its a waste.. maybe it is a waste to you.. Sure its a buck a disc .. oh boo fuggin who.. I spend more for a cold brew.. I myslef would enjoy a damn dvdr of the matrix reloaded just as much if not more than a cold one..

so quit your bitching and enjoy the flick.. if you dont want it dont reply..

My reply is just to let ctp know they still rock..and sure keep em commin.. I see no problem with a TS DVDR.. things change.. deal with it..

-Tito

This is fucking awesome!!!

really Awesome and well done by centrophy!

most of those idiots dont understand that the scene is about evolution.

people who really do this for fun dont care about so called rules.
we are pirates and breaking alreay all rules remember.

so if centrophy try to start something new I welcome it and I only hope they will expand this with the upcoming release of Finding nemo. I really hope this will shut up the movie companies with their release dates. if they dont go world wide like matrix did , well fuck it then. I have to wait another 5 months before Finding Nemo will be played in the country I live in. I dont want to wait that long!

so instead of taking my money like they did with matrix reloaded. because yes I watched that at the cinema because it was released world wide.
but for finding nemo it will be different. I will watch finding Nemo happily at home on my dvdr player I hope soon!

so keep up the good work centrophy!!!

getting the sample now...hopefull it is as good as you guys say it is...

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there's a spanish group called EMW that released a Matrix Reloaded Screener and DTS audio in divx format, 700mb on May 26, i'm trying to get it. i wouldn't be suprised if this was the source from which CTP got the DTS. it might be that second language that the nfo talk about (if any knows, please reply). thank god i can read spanish

Sample looks amazing, but I'd like to get more information about it as far as the sound source and any other different methods used to encode this amazing TS.

You can nuke them, bash them, or whatever, but CTP is going to keep being innovative, so you'll defintly thank them later.

Cant wait to see what this really looks like when its all finished.

well seeing as the second language is german and not spanish.... but i do love these centropy conspiracy theories everyone loves inventing.

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wow....thats pretty damn good...and the sound, 100 million times better than SVCD...picture is damn good too...I can't believe its a TS...

definitely going to have to waste somebandwith tonight

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2. language is german for sure ... and 5.1 line dubs have been rather common in germany for quite a while ... tgsc (the german screener crew ... mentioned in the nfo) must have found one hell of a supplier for line dubs ... their sound is usually crystal clear ... hard to impossible to make out a difference from a dvd source ... in other words the sound is _not_ from ctp though im very pleased to see the finest cammers work together with the finest dubbers ...

History in the making...at least for us online movies nerds.
CTP is raising the the very fucking high. 9/9.5/9

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So they ran the dts track through a dolby digital encoder? Or is this dts theory incorrect? If not they should've left it, or included it along with the dolby digital and dump the german track. I'm sure they'd still have enough space for video. Anyway nice to see something new, I knew I had all these optodiscs for a reason.

*sigh* Maybe they should try to get rid of angles [See:Bruce almighty] AND 5.1 i would care, but until they can actually get a SVCD TS without an angle, no need to dvdr something when you cant get the svcd right

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I like the TS/DVDR idea better then the 3CD SVCD. But being region 1, PAL format is useless and unplayable here. Oh well, guess the SVCD will have to do.

Ok, for all those who don't know...

1) 5.1 can be encoded though scenerist AC3 encoder. Just insert the wav files, and wala... 5.1 AC3 Audio.

2) CTP caps their own movies, sells them to the guys who does the silvers, then they take the original source (digital tape) and make them DVDs. CTP just took the silver DVD and released it.

I like the idea of free silver DVDs, so I'm not complaining. Just filling ya in on the scoop.

err, the SVCD was pal...

and Josh, where did you get this information? is it just common knowledge or are you using a source?

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err, the SVCD was pal...

and Josh, where did you get this information? is it just common knowledge or are you using a source?

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err, the SVCD was pal...

and Josh, where did you get this information? is it just common knowledge or are you using a source?

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In the end, a TS is still a TS... you can add nitrous and aerodynamics to a honda but under the hood it's still a honda Sounds better, looks slightly better but still plagued by it's distinct similarities. Video still 40% cropped around the edges (especially the bottom), angle still apparent, motion blur and luminance flicker common in telesyncs still wreaking havoc, grainy video is even more noticeable and looks only .01% better than the SVCD. Supporters can go and call everyone else names and think CTP is revolutionalizing the scene by releasing DVDR TS's but in the end it just wont work. Why you ask? For the same reason divx/xvid ts's didn't (and still doesn't) work (nice try though DEiTY)! Some formats are meant for it and some aren't. CTP did a great job being the first to encode TS's as SVCD but that was only successful because they were moving from an outdated videocd format to an "improved upon" vcd format (SVCD) mainly to rid of pixelation and improve clarity, with a DV source you can only stretch the quality to a certain limit (the SVCD/CVD formats are basically THAT limit). Don't get me wrong, I'm not "hating" on CTP but just giving my opinion and prediction of the matter. Formats like DVDR and DiVX are meant specifically for DVD, that's what they're optimized for.. No one wants to grab 4.7GB's worth of TS (even on 100Mbit links.. Hell!, some don't even bother with/allow DVD Screener DVDR's), it's not worth the time, bandwith or my $0.65 DVDR disc. And with the DVDR Scene having somewhat established rules like the divx scene, the fans and supporters will just keep throwing rocks at it until it's 6 feet under. As for DVDR quality rating, 5/8/11. peace!

BTW, anyone who's someone in the movie scene even in the weakest groups knows about what JoshNya posted. It's just not scene ettiquette to discuss it with ignorant (I didn't say stupid, because that's not what ignorant means) forum posters and non-scene related persons, it's just not right. Props TGSC for cracking the DTS discs though, and kudos to CTP for trying something new even though I have my doubts and dislikes about it.

DivX with DTS?

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there's a spanish group called EMW that released a Matrix Reloaded Screener and DTS audio in divx format, 700mb on May 26, i'm trying to get it. i wouldn't be suprised if this was the source from which CTP got the DTS. it might be that second language that the nfo talk about (if any knows, please reply). thank god i can read spanish

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"Breaking New Ground"

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Should Centropy release TS on dvdr-hell yes if they look like this. Doesn't it all boil down to choice, release them on both formats svcd/dvdr. Anyone who rips knows how time consuming this shit is, so huge props for having the courage to try it, time the outdated rules were ammended to include more variety in releases.
Back to the actual release I found the picture and the audio considerably better than the svcd on this release, and loved the little menus. Keep em coming and I'll keep downloading em :0)

Don't see what the problem is...

If ya don't want it, don't download it.

Centropy... you keep breaking the rules... I'm sure the DVD-R scene will fall into line eventually.

hmm

here's my opninion:

All you people who say "if you don't like it don't download it": We won't! This is a forum for discussing, not to agree with each other, we won't download it, that's OUR business. If we don't like it we would like to express our reason... but this is a discussion board so we are entitled to express our opinion.

hi out there,

great work CTP !!! THE QUALITY ROCKS !!!!

German & English 5.1 Sound.... from TGSC...

but from where does TGSC get the English 5.1 Sound ?
They are a German Release Group ?!?!?

THX FOR WORKING GUYS....

greatings from germany !


9.5/10/9.1

:: don't do that again
:: Its not TGSC sound, Its most likely CTP'S DTS Disc that TGSC Helped them crack.

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here's my opninion:

All you people who say "if you don't like it don't download it": We won't! This is a forum for discussing, not to agree with each other, we won't download it, that's OUR business. If we don't like it we would like to express our reason... but this is a discussion board so we are entitled to express our opinion.

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Just saw the sample, i was blown away by the quality of the sound. Video quality is a little better and i did not notice the angle from the sample either.

Great release CTP may be this is a brief glimpse of things to come. The one thing that still bugs me is why if they used a DTS track as source not just stick it as DTS on the DVD rather than DD5.1.

9/10/10

I believe , prob the ones (not all) that do not like the idea of having the CTP release movies on Dvdr - are the ones that do not currently have one.

CTP always broke new ground, and this is another one. Beautiful work, and much better than burning 3 cds , swapping , and some other things. If u dont like the dvdr , dont get it , they released a perfectly good svcd release.

CTP continue with what you are doing, and keep it up.

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I believe , prob the ones (not all) that do not like the idea of having the CTP release movies on Dvdr - are the ones that do not currently have one.

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This roxx, Audio is GOOD and picture fair enough for a good movie evening. Keep this up, its good with groups that runs experiments


HAil CTP

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I hope this isn't against the rules but I was bored so I made a jpeg sample...VCDquality can use it or not...I noticed they have one but its only one picture:

here you go:

JPEG Sample

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the aspect ratio on your caps looks out. whenever you cap , make sure you have your program set to do it by aspect ratio. atm it looks rather "square" (unless its mr pho's early morning eyes)

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The video is a tad bit better than the SVCD, the audio is very nice. But like M$ said in the end its just a telesync and i dont burn anything of lower quality than DVDSCR (not even those if they have B&W scenes). Telesyncs and screeners i just watch and delete when something better comes out or right away.
I already have over 5000CD/DVD and if i burned every release of every movie i get, it would get way too much so i stopped burning TS/SCR etc. I dont mind CTP releasing DVDR-TS but i dont waste 10h download and a DVDR for a TS.
But its sure an improvement and prooves CTP are pioneers.

pHo, i might have overlapped them a little bit...i used PowerDVD and had the aspect ratio set correctly...probably just my error of putting them together...

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I havn't got this, and as im on a puny 1mb connection, i have to be sure before i get it.

Picture wise, it is only a TS and can only be so good, but as long as it watchable then i'll take it, the novelty here is the 5.1 sound which if its true 5.1 sound then should sound great and make the difference.

Has anyone with a decent Surround set up tested it to see how it sounds, and is it any good.

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yah it sounds good....much better than the SVCD...about to watch now...so excited..

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pal dvd???

first off why not make it region free second how do i make it region free myself? is there a patch? any help would be great
thanks

sorry for the maybe dumb question but what is a "dts disc"?

and does any german already got to check how the german sound is? the german lotr2 ac3 was hell

thanks for your answers!

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first off why not make it region free second how do i make it region free myself? is there a patch? any help would be great
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It is region free, but the TV mode is PAL.

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The one thing that still bugs me is why if they used a DTS track as source not just stick it as DTS on the DVD rather than DD5.1.

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Pretty good...menu was a surprise since no one mentioned it....

I burned someones self-made DVDR about a week ago, this is better... no disc change overlap...and video is noticeably better

7.5 / 9.5 / 9

Too bad they couldn't put in the Revolutions trailer...maybe convert it from the video game version...and stick that in the menu somewhere...

Anyway, great idea and execution...will be watching this for awhile...

the reason I say that is this, am I the only one who thinks they'll wait to release this on DVD(retail) until next spring at the least...maybe a complete box set...or at least dual set with part III? Just a thought.

no way, people are expecting the retail dvd by early to mid October...like a month before Revolution comes out...

maybe a nice 4-disc boxset for Christmas (MAYBE)



as for my review, I finally got it all and watched it today->

First off Audio:

The absolute best thing of this entire release. The 5.1 sounded great, almost professionally done. Great use of surrounds and the bass hit hard and deep. My only complaint is that on that some of the yelling scenes, the voices distorted when they raised their pitch. Very minor annoyance that doesn't even remotely change my mind about this release. Great Audio, I wish more groups would release 5.1 tracks (even thoughI know it is hard to find good source material). Good job Centropy, you guys broke new ground in this aspect.

Second Video:

I have gotten about 3 or 4 releases of Reloaded and this is probably the best video I have seen (well obviously, considering it's a PDVD)...Now, comparing this to the SVCD, I don't notice any huge improvements...its slightly smoother but there aren't that many other differences. Color is slightly washed out in some scenes and some scenes are too dark but, its a TS, what can you expect? I didn't notice any angle at all on this release. None, I don't know what video you guys are looking at but this release doesn't have any angle. Oh, and I wish Centropy wouldn't crop there releases because I like to watch the "entire" movie...

Conclusion:

If you have the time, bandwith and a 5.1 system, get this release.

also, anybody wanna let me borrow a DVD burner because I have 4.5 GBs sitting on my HDD which I can't get rid of now

and I watched it through the TV-out of my laptop and the SPIDF...

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also, anybody wanna let me borrow a DVD burner because I have 4.5 GBs sitting on my HDD which I can't get rid of now

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no way, people are expecting the retail dvd by early to mid October...like a month before Revolution comes out...

maybe a nice 4-disc boxset for Christmas (MAYBE)

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Matrix Reloaded has a tentative date of 10/3/03.

The following gift sets:

• The Matrix : Reloaded Gift Set
• The Matrix : Reloaded / Revisted 3 Pack

are set for November 2003.

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Very impressed. I'm waiting for my DVD burner to arrive tomorrow so i've not yet seen it for real on my standalone but from what i've seen on my pc it looks awesome.

This should definately keep me going till a dvd release comes along. Its really gonna be a struggle to keep up with releases if this takes off though. Its a big jump in file sizes for me.

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There is a very little cropping, its a little bit noticeable but who cares, this rocks!

finally got a hold of it ... im very impressed ... if its at all cropped it isnt much ... sound is perfectly clear (as expected from tgsc) (both languages btw) ... the picture is very good little to no problems with dark scenes as it seems from skipping through it a bid ... slight problems with too bright scenes but nothing much almost no flickering .. no angle (maybe tilted 1-5° not sure about it thoug) ... if you dont watch your stuff on anything better than a pal tv theres almost no more need for a real dvdrip ... all in all the best ts ive seen yet ...

concerning dvdr telesyncs ... if they are english + german and have this kind of video keep em coming ...

and concerning pal ... of course its pal the video source is pal so converting it to ntsc would cause a loss of quality (and would be a total waste of time) ...

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so if i wasn't referring to the amount of copies you had watched, which part was i referring to

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hey... nice reviews here... the svcd format was aryte... except i had to convert it to ntsc... that was a pain... hahaha took like 12 hours... and here's an idea to people without a dvd burner: convert to svcd... shouldnt take more than a day to do that :-D

damn you pHo

and conartist: why would we do that? If we already have the 3 SVCD that centropy originally released...I might make a XVID with AC3 rip from the DVDR...that would probably take a long time though....

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i was skeptical at first... but i saw this as more of a historic scene release..... so i grabbed it... but im very impressed... the video... i think... is better than the svcd... as there was no room for any loss on conversion.... and the sound is excellent.


german 5.1 isnt very useful.. but boy does it impress the ladies

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im surprised they didn't make more of a fuss about the video in the nfo cos i presumed it would be the original svcd video, but im presuming its been reshot (rather than the angle "fixed" somehow)

looks nice, sounds great, can't argue. october for the real thing? nice, i'll save my rupees.

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from comparing the svcd to the dvdr it looks alot like they have done what tgsc usually does with ctp releases ... strech the picture to get rid of the jay lenno filter the bottom side of the picture is exactly the same but theres a lot less on the top ... suggesting its the same source only cropped quite a bit more ...

is it just me or dose the higher bitrate help the problem with double motion blur pixelation quite a bit?

Matrix Reloaded Telesync DVDR

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It is region 1.....it is region 1 will pal header and pal video....(silly)....

I edited the .ifo files to change the header to NTSC so my samsung would at least attempt to play it, and that worked for my samsung...

goodluck..

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Hi. I read your post stating you changed the header from pal to ntsc so that your samsung player would at least attempt to read the movie. I burned the movie *as is* using nero after extracting the files in the original IMG file. It burned fine but my RCA 5240P would not read the dvd. It said no disc.

I tried changing the settings within ifoedit in both IFO files from pal to ntsc but nero failed to burn the disc. I burned the first attempt using the option "DVD-ROM (UDF)" in nero. Is there something I didn't do or did wrong that I could fix to get this thing to possibly play on my ntsc dvd player? It plays pal vcd/svcd discs fine on cdr discs.

Ideally could you point me to the exact settings you made and to which ifo file(s), in order for your samsung to read the disc. I realize the method isn't guaranteed but I am willing to give it a try. I am using dvd+r discs which work for other dvdr movies i have burned, though they were ntsc encoded. Thanks for any further insight to this.

MaSoP

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It is region 1.....it is region 1 will pal header and pal video....(silly)....

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err, my region checker says its all regions (1 thru 8) so its not region 1 exclusively... dunno where you got that from.

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Btw, the header change worked for my friend's Sony DVD Player too

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Btw, the header change worked for my friend's Sony DVD Player too

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end cut short?

At ~ 2hrs 0min 54sec the dvd starts over... it seems chapter 20 is cut short or something... Anyone else have this problem? If not, any suggestions as to why I might be having this problem?

This is an awesome release... keep up the good work centropy!!

Thanks,
cappaberra

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I just burned the movie with Nero after changing the first header setting of pal to ntsc for each ifo file as you did and suggested. My RCA 5240P reads it now. A couple visual problems are present mainly with the menu system but the movie looks and sounds great and is definately 5.1 on my system. I won't complain much about the top portion being cropped just a wee bit bit too much. :-)


MaSoP

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The last 10 min or so of the movie are missing.

VTS_01_4.VOB should close out the movie, but the menu system is at the end of it. Strange considering VTS_01_0 is the menu system and thus doesn't need to be repeated. VTS_01_5 is also briefly menu, then the start of the movie again.

I'm not sure if i'm glad to hear it was not my computer/player/something problem, and actually something compiled into the dvdr... :\ anyways, thx for checking this out.. anyone else confirm this?

-cappaberra

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Originally posted by CeanD
The last 10 min or so of the movie are missing.

VTS_01_4.VOB should close out the movie, but the menu system is at the end of it. Strange considering VTS_01_0 is the menu system and thus doesn't need to be repeated. VTS_01_5 is also briefly menu, then the start of the movie again.

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@pHo, can you list the names and sizes of your .vob files?

Here's what I got (size as "size" not "size on disk"):

VTS_01_0 107,943,936 bytes
VTS_01_1 1,073,565,696 bytes
VTS_01_2 1,073,565,696 bytes
VTS_01_3 1,073,565,696 bytes
VTS_01_4 1,073,565,696 bytes
VTS_01_5 205,869,056 bytes

later,
cappaberra

p.s. what are the VIDEO_TS_* files for?

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Originally posted by CeanD
The last 10 min or so of the movie are missing.

VTS_01_4.VOB should close out the movie, but the menu system is at the end of it. Strange considering VTS_01_0 is the menu system and thus doesn't need to be repeated. VTS_01_5 is also briefly menu, then the start of the movie again.

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I guess there are more than 1 floating around out there then. The one I have definatley is missing the end.

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Originally posted by pHo


well it plays all the way thru to the beginning of the Rage Against the Machine track (over the credits) for me, so i dont know what you're talking about.

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the file sizes are as above, no difference.

vob4 / vob5 for me contain *no* menu, just footage. vob5 being around 5mins long. took these caps from the end , so its either a bad burn (tried mounting the .img instead?) or something else is going on.

caps taken with elecard, also plays back in PowerDVD fine. my DVD player is a bit fucked atm, so can't test with it.

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Maybe I got an altered copy... I've used a few different players but all seem to yield the same result...

@Paula, that is quite bizarre... I would hate to have to find another source and download this rather large release again... ugh. I hope it's just my player/computer for some reason...

@pHo, it couldn't be a bad burn since I never burned it to a dvd. I extracted it using winimage... I might try that again just to be sure...

I'm interested to know some other people's experiences with this issue.

Thanks,
cappaberra

well, i just solved my own problem...

I deleted the last 6 archives and then used the parity set to recover the "missing" ones...

This recreated the original (not messed up) last 6 archives which contain the *correct* version of the last .vob file!

Hope this helps other people....

-cappaberra

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Originally posted by cappaberra
well, i just solved my own problem...

I deleted the last 6 archives and then used the parity set to recover the "missing" ones...

This recreated the original (not messed up) last 6 archives which contain the *correct* version of the last .vob file!

Hope this helps other people....

-cappaberra

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Winimage was indeed the problem for me. Isobuster squared it away. Thanks for all the help!

just like to point out that this is the longest running thread in the history of the DVDR forum like 45 times the one before it...

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no dvd burner, hardly and HD space, ill buy this from a asian p1rate on ebay. 8/8/9

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whats wrong with spelling "pirate" with an I?

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man I dont want to download this release but I would be stocked on the audio I wish their was a scene for DTS so I could do my own authoring at home I know my apex could handle a CVD/XSCD with DTS.

Im going to go back and reread pages 2 and 3 of this thread but I have a question about the header trick being discussed are people trick DVD players in America to play a PAL video and American tvs are correctly playing the video?

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I cannot believe you just said, "it's not out in europe yet" and linked to a UK site.. OMG

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Im going to go back and reread pages 2 and 3 of this thread but I have a question about the header trick being discussed are people trick DVD players in America to play a PAL video and American tvs are correctly playing the video?

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Ok just watched it and of course the audio is very nicely done so props to CTP for that.

The pseudo DVD interface is actually done quite well. When I heard about it I thought you could only choose the language but that scene selections is above and beyond.

Video is the same so anybody expecting anything different, don't.

It is nicer to have this all on one disc rather than 3 but I only advise a download if you really want it or if you were just curious like me.

monkeycrew,

1. It was regionfree (Pho confirmed that), just included a PAL header and PAL video.... If it wasn't regionfree, my Pioneer and Samsung would have given the "region" error......and they did not.

2. Next, the header change made it work for my Samsung, my friend's Sony, and some guy's RCA. You have a better idea? Post it... Again, region was NOT THE PROBLEM!

3. I believe you are 100% wrong about the audio. Anyone with a half-ass audio setup can tell the difference between "discrete" 5.1DD and remuxed/remixed/re-created 5.1 from TS 2.0DD. This would have been apparent during the car chase and fighting sequence. I believe CTP did get hold of the DTS CD (as rumored) and created the DD5.1 track from that.... and that is what it sounds like on my system. Maybe you don't truly have a 5.1DD amp/receiver?


Done.

Just a question. I know that with movies that you can put onto CD, that the bin/cue's are convertable to an mpeg format for viewing from the computer. Is that so with DVD style releases?

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Just a question. I know that with movies that you can put onto CD, that the bin/cue's are convertable to an mpeg format for viewing from the computer. Is that so with DVD style releases?

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1. I knew the release was region free, i just thought you might have got a copy that wasn't. Anyone can make a DVD region free, DVDDeCrypter anyone?

2. Oh, i'm sorry if oyur NTSC system can't handle PAL, my PAL can handle NTSC... but as for a solution the header seems rather make shift, as it will probably not work on a PAL system after the mod.

3. Well i have Xbox with the advanced scart capable so i can have optical hook-ups to my system, so i pretty much have DD5.1, and in my OPINION it SEEMS to be a recoded stereo track, but i may be proven wrong...

still, it's JUST a spruced up telesync, props to CTP for making it an all, but it's not a new concept, have you seen any PDVD releases in asia recently (admittedly they often use shit sources) but they usually have multi-language subs, and menus, and scene selection.

1. No ... I don't believe there are varied versions of it "floating" around.

2. After the mod, it still works on the Apex, but does shift the picture ; However, funny enough, the Initial unit still plays it fine, as well as the Samsung.

3. I really wish I knew what XBOX , scart cable have to do with this convo? I run an optical to my DD/DTS 5.1 amp, end of story.

4. No one said it was anything different - there was no false advertising. People knew what they were downloading (TS DVD-R)...yes, we've all heard of PDVD....

CENTROPY HAS DONE IT AGAIN

First things first nuke or no nuke who really cares GREAT release. Second its DVDR hmm only $1 dvd burner hmm cheap now and being MATRIX RELOADED 5.1 DOLBY DIGITAL worth everything above.Not to mention a kickass menu. I hope centropy does everyone of there releases in dvdr format for now on i mean who really cares about scene rules this site is for talking about quality and that is what exactly is going on QUALITY AT ITS BEST.
Centropy if you read this i'm probably one of your favorite fans keep doing what your doing cause it is overdue for a change in the scene and it is nice to see that is you guys that are the only ones that try and succeed to be sucessfull. MoreTS DVDR keep it going. Well worth the dl wait. One more thing NTSC friendly would be nice but its still all good.

Respects

RAZ

alright.. great release (watched on windvd)

burned to disc.. oh yea my pioneer doesnt work with pal (get the rolling black and white pic) but it does work with pal svcds so

did the header .ifo mod, changed from pal to ntsc in 2 places in each file

now, video works perfectly! but now the audio flickers in and out (my dobly digital indicator on my dvd player also flickers on and off). When sound is on it sounds perfect, then it flickers to nothing, then back, about 1 second each

anyone have any ideas? (other than buy a new dvd player)

thanx
jeff

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Originally posted by jptheripper2
alright.. great release (watched on windvd)

burned to disc.. oh yea my pioneer doesnt work with pal (get the rolling black and white pic) but it does work with pal svcds so

did the header .ifo mod, changed from pal to ntsc in 2 places in each file

now, video works perfectly! but now the audio flickers in and out (my dobly digital indicator on my dvd player also flickers on and off). When sound is on it sounds perfect, then it flickers to nothing, then back, about 1 second each

anyone have any ideas? (other than buy a new dvd player)

thanx
jeff

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Hi,

well the CTP release on DVD-r was just a matter of time.

The angle has been improved, the vid quality is the same as the SVCD.

For all your guyz with dvd burner:

just make your own 100% "original" DVD Matrix Reloaded as sold on ebay.com & ebay.de a 100 times before.

Small chinese have done the job the "professional way", made a cover and sold them on the market for around ~ 10 US$.

You could join Reloaded & Animatrix on 1 dvd-r, make some small menue and voila, its done.

I would not recommend downloading it, if you already own the SVCD TGSC release.

And yes, it's english & german due to the fact, that ctp & TGSC joined forces ....

VIDEO by CTP
VIDEO editing (angle and stuff) by TGSC
AUDIO (english and german) by TGSC

CU

drAgon [TMD]

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Originally posted by drAgon [TMD]
Hi,

well the CTP release on DVD-r was just a matter of time.

The angle has been improved, the vid quality is the same as the SVCD.

For all your guyz with dvd burner:

just make your own 100% "original" DVD Matrix Reloaded as sold on ebay.com & ebay.de a 100 times before.

Small chinese have done the job the "professional way", made a cover and sold them on the market for around ~ 10 US$.

You could join Reloaded & Animatrix on 1 dvd-r, make some small menue and voila, its done.

I would not recommend downloading it, if you already own the SVCD TGSC release.

And yes, it's english & german due to the fact, that ctp & TGSC joined forces ....

VIDEO by CTP
VIDEO editing (angle and stuff) by TGSC
AUDIO (english and german) by TGSC

CU

drAgon [TMD]

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You may disagree, BUT the quality of the DVD-R and the SVCD version IS the SAME.

There is no other source, than the centropy source.

There is NO difference, even the preview of Matrix Revolution has been forgotten to include ....

DD 5.1 IS nice, but there is no need to get this version for the sake of DD; the german version is NOT DD 5.1 as stated by the chinese :-)

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Originally posted by drAgon [TMD]
You may disagree, BUT the quality of the DVD-R and the SVCD version IS the SAME.

There is no other source, than the centropy source.

There is NO difference, even the preview of Matrix Revolution has been forgotten to include ....

DD 5.1 IS nice, but there is no need to get this version for the sake of DD; the german version is NOT DD 5.1 as stated by the chinese :-)

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