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Posted by Orky on 08-05-2003 01:08 PM:

Awesome quality. From the sample the video looks almost flawless, couldn't be asking for more until a DVDrip comes. And the sound is PERFECT. Great teamwork from Replica and TGSC

I am gonna rate this one 10 / 10 / N/a since it actually gave me the "omg this quality is good"-feeling when checking it out.

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Posted by D4RK4NG3L on 08-05-2003 01:20 PM:

Nice release. Good picture and good Audio. Shame tho that a grp cant label it right again

Its a high Quality TS prolly from asian pdvd source or something. Already had discussions with others but I made my point by showing them why

The Doors are angled. A TC is a straight reel transfer which would never cause that effect. Given the time this movie has been out its obvious a VERY good TS wasnt unable anymore, infact Replica managed to make/get one but thought they could f00l us. I bet most wont even think its TS after seeing the pictures

would they have labeled it correct i woulda had a lot more respect for them, but thats beside the point.. no one cares for my opinion anyways


Posted by Butch on 08-05-2003 01:21 PM:

*From the CUM stains in my pants*

WOOOOO HHOOOO
this is one awesome release!!!!
who isn't waiting for this????. Replica you just earned the respect of a lot of people.
9/9/8

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Posted by Mystic Slippe on 08-05-2003 01:26 PM:

Looks like a good TS PDVD. Don't think this is a TC. Label properly. Even still this is the best version out there and will definitely hold you off until DVDSCR or DVDRetail. There is no need for another sub-DVD rls now really.

9/9/8


Posted by MoNoXiDe on 08-05-2003 01:51 PM:

Nice *PDvD* *TS* 9/9/... As a matter of a fact Cam jobs like these are as rare as a "Party Atop of the Hill" Tape by Kangol Joey and Jagged Joe... Thats pretty damn rare... The "Ninjas" out there what i mean ... Anyways Bring on some more... but take the time to look them over and properly lable... Nice Rep!!!

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Posted by kindrid on 08-05-2003 02:03 PM:

so many newbies to the scene here
whats all this shit about this not being a telecine

you little kids dont know anything about the scene
this is a real as good as they get telecine not telesync

in fact the video is taken from the russian divx telecine not a asian pirate dvd

do some research before you all claim to know shit because u dont know anything

8/8/6
nice TELECINE!!!

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Posted by makeme on 08-05-2003 02:10 PM:

wow, quality excellant,!!!

9/9/8


Posted by MQ-James on 08-05-2003 02:37 PM:

about the angle it looked more bowed than anything to me, if it was a TS wouldn't the doors be ( | is the red line \ or / the angle)

\| \| not |/ \| it def. more bowed than TS to me

now having watched sample:
as with most films I have to turn the volume up (not much) 8

video is a little "bitty" (not pixelated) about 7

films was about a 9

5 days after UK premier not bad lol


Posted by psyche on 08-05-2003 02:42 PM:

Well kindrid, here's a non newbie analysis. This indeed is an extremely good TS (NOT TC). Download the first few rars and watch the opening scenes of this release vs. the opening scenes of TCF's barely cropped release and you'll see that this is slightly cropped not to mention the slight (but barely noticeable angle). But you are right about this being from the same source as the russian divx (most likely silver PDVD since russia is a well known piracy country also), you can tell by the grainy artifacts on the video it was a divx to svcd re-encode. TGSC did do good with the audio and this is the best version out but it is a fact that it's mislabeled. 7/9/10 (rated as TC), Good Job anyway Replica/TGSC... It can be tedious when editing video but sync is good in sample


Posted by CaSt-DrEaM on 08-05-2003 02:45 PM:

MINT

THIS is a mint release!!!!
I have seen the movie already but it could now be worth a 10th watch lol
Cheers guys and give us more of these

10/10/10


Posted by napalmfuzz on 08-05-2003 03:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by kindrid
in fact the video is taken from the russian divx telecine not a asian pirate dvd


ill vouche for the existance of that divx.. as i have it now.. dont know if its the same video source.. but i shall compare the 2

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Posted by holzi on 08-05-2003 03:17 PM:

Ok this version is form the russian PDVD! TGSC released the same thing as a dvd-r and as a SVCD in german. And know help Replica to make a english release. Since I don't like TGSC because these guys are crypting there releases, so nobody excapt there "friends" can get it. I might gonne get this one.
It is realy nice so I give it a 9/9/*. I saw the movie allready but I'm not sure how to rate that movie yet.
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Posted by cofferscuffs on 08-05-2003 03:18 PM:

it can't be from a cam, due to the fact that cams can't retain that much colour detail due to luminance, and you can't correct it with filters flawlessly without drastically affecting the white balance.

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Posted by lifebringer on 08-05-2003 03:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cofferscuffs
it can't be from a cam, due to the fact that cams can't retain that much colour detail due to luminance, and you can't correct it with filters flawlessly without drastically affecting the white balance.


i agree with this guy; angle or not, you can't get that kind of bright color from a cam(/TS) -- or at least not one that's ever been released before. must be telecine...


Posted by ajcool on 08-05-2003 03:42 PM:

9/9/8

definetly the best release yet whatever format it really is.

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Posted by psyche on 08-05-2003 04:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cofferscuffs
it can't be from a cam, due to the fact that cams can't retain that much colour detail due to luminance, and you can't correct it with filters flawlessly without drastically affecting the white balance.
You've never seen what a Canon GL2 with filter lens can do


Posted by pHo on 08-05-2003 04:07 PM:

gl2? pah if yer gonna name drop a cam, at least go for a real mans cam like a sony dsr-570

anyone wanting to donate said cam to mr pho, u know where i am

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Posted by neoparadox on 08-05-2003 04:19 PM:

Thumbs up

10/10

Great work Replica.


Too bad Reloaded wasn't this good though.


Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 08-05-2003 04:24 PM:

Replica comes through again. 9/9/7. ill find my credit card pho.


Posted by Dirty on 08-05-2003 04:31 PM:

Perfect.

9/9/8


Posted by parasiticgann on 08-05-2003 04:37 PM:

Has anyone seen the whole rls yet? Just wondering if it goes out of sync like Matrix Reloaded? That was 100% unwatchable because of that.

Sample is good though, 10/9/8


Posted by pezley on 08-05-2003 04:48 PM:

wether its a cam or a telecine it kicks uber ass...

and i mean alot

if its a ts ... then best i have ever seen ... it doesnt have the artifacts we have got used to for a cam .. dark enges.. cropping..dull colors... over exposed light colors.

but as a telecine it has a weird angle (not much ) ... colors are off ... seems yellow ( but remember the jonny english tc ...eh )

i dunno... good enough for now .. and if its a tc man i would love to see more of this


Posted by kindrid on 08-05-2003 05:07 PM:

http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modul...order=0&thold=0

Termushka.3.TC.DivX.AC3.Tankisty

enough said!

russian telecine rip made by russians ,as u see at the site above
,has russian audio and like info says ,this svcd has a diff audio source




to the person who edited my first post to put a IDOT sign in there
please remove it i didnt deserve that ,i deal in whats facts not what people think the source might be from


Posted by D4RK4NG3L on 08-05-2003 05:27 PM:

Ok kindrid if you deal with facts then please show as an URL that tells us how its possible that a TC has an angle. Its a technical fact that its impossble to transfer a reel with an angle. Hell the reel would get f*cked up if it did.

Now go back to yer bedside stories :x


Posted by doofus on 08-05-2003 05:29 PM:

Nice one, def a telecine.

My dream is a C-Reality telecine machine.

9/9/9

Doofus


Posted by ek247 on 08-05-2003 05:38 PM:

angle or no angle, xcellent copy and wonderfull sound. if the release group says it's a telecine then i belive them.

8 picture
8 audio


Posted by a1catraz on 08-05-2003 05:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by D4RK4NG3L
Ok kindrid if you deal with facts then please show as an URL that tells us how its possible that a TC has an angle. Its a technical fact that its impossble to transfer a reel with an angle. Hell the reel would get f*cked up if it did.

Now go back to yer bedside stories :x



i also think its impossible to get the colors u see here with a cam.. but.. cam or not.. this is an awesome release.


Posted by pezley on 08-05-2003 05:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by D4RK4NG3L
Ok kindrid if you deal with facts then please show as an URL that tells us how its possible that a TC has an angle. Its a technical fact that its impossble to transfer a reel with an angle. Hell the reel would get f*cked up if it did.



Hmmmm not tryign to argue .. just trying to find reasons

but what about if the scene was shot like that ?....

you dont realy notice the angle on people... cept at the scene where the two cops went round to the guys house and said about a kidnap at the vets .... the bald guy had a crappy shaped head... but maybe he realy does have a crappy shape head..

anyways .. the colors are a bit good for a cam .. and the angle is confusing for it to be a tc ... or maybe it was encoded at teh wrong resolution causing the video to get distorted ?


Posted by MinisterSiniste on 08-05-2003 05:47 PM:

Here's my lame uninformed opinion. Maybe they made a ts from using a cam at the monitor in the booth rather than on the big screen so they could get the bright colors? (as per the russian tc article mentioning the display monitor). In any case this is a rockin copy of one of the best films this year.
MrSin


Posted by huggy on 08-05-2003 06:00 PM:

This release is is by far the best i've seen. If only every release was as good as this we wouldnt have to waste alot of time downloading poor quility releases and it would be worth waiting on one like this. I'm taking my hat of too you guys for an excellent release. Please.......some more of this!!

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Posted by dalton4life on 08-05-2003 06:06 PM:

I haven't even checked out the sample yet but from looking at the JPEGs all I can say is DAMN. Not sure if I am gonna bother getting it since I have the CTP and TCF versions. But if the sample looks good enough it just might hold me until the retail comes out.


Posted by InSaNeOnE on 08-05-2003 06:17 PM:

Tad grainy, but superb none the less.


I have most of it down, I will maybe edit depending on how it looks during chase scenes ect.... as I have a feeling it may suffer from motion blur


But on the sample


8/8/8


Posted by cofferscuffs on 08-05-2003 06:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by psyche
You've never seen what a Canon GL2 with filter lens can do


actually i have, its not that hard though to grasp the fact that camming a canvas which is being projected on would never be able to retain the luminance/saturation/contrast/rgb/wl with or without the aid of filters

sure you can remove contrast flickers with deflicker filters, and yea you can restore a certain amount of colour but you can't resolve the wl variants flawlessly without going through each frame (well maybe not that specific but you get the idea) and doing a manual wl and/or histogram correction

oh and keep in mind the luminance would be centred in the middle, getting less as you go out from the "pinpoint" doesn't help either

maybe its a non-consumer cam? i dunno. but it's not a tc for sure.

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Posted by Ubitsa on 08-05-2003 06:49 PM:

I give high marks to the video and audio sources, but something must have gone wrong in the encoding because the video is very blocky almost all the time. The avg. video bitrate was only 1845kbps, and it could have been higher.

8/9/8


Posted by xlsvcd on 08-05-2003 07:09 PM:

damnit. see what centropy has made us do!!! now we are all constantly looking for angles. those bastards!!

does it really matter where this release came from? it looks good, sounds good and it pretty damn close to a screener in quality, mad props to replica.

9/9/7


Posted by parasiticgann on 08-05-2003 07:52 PM:

I still haven't made my mind up if it's a TC or TS.

Cofferscuffs, at first you said it's not a cam, then you say it's not a tc. What could it be? Wouldn't have to be one of the two? It's sure as hell not a screener.

I don't really care, it looks good, I will have fun watching this movie again.


Posted by badboyz on 08-05-2003 07:54 PM:

just got the sample and it looks great. Almost dvdrip. Great job Replica, you've outdone yourself.

9/9/7


Posted by tumtum on 08-05-2003 08:33 PM:

quote:

A video pirate, who chose to remain anonymous, said the technology behind the copying process was quite simple. All modern movie theaters' projection rooms have control monitors that display video and sound from the original cinefilm. To get a "roll," one needs to plug this monitor to a computer that would digitize a movie in order to get a DVD-quality copy. The source said this copying process is used by one of the largest Russian pirating studios.


Bring a pc with a tv card to work, get the image, use external audio source to dub the movie and voila a semi-telecine.

Nice quality, 9/9/7


Posted by TheBeyonder on 08-05-2003 08:46 PM:

It isn´t a TC , just a damn good TS cuz TC´s haven´t any angle
TC´s are made with a extra mashine which isn´t cheap , so that´s the reason why TC´s are so rare .
Normally Telesync´s are filmed off from a mirror so they could get the whole pic on da cam

but this release is the best telesync i´ve ever seen
too bad that T3 wasn´t so good as T2 :
9/9/5


Posted by Air1 on 08-05-2003 09:07 PM:

here's my late post on the release. i wasn't going to post at all but i wanted to make some comments.

for starters, the JPG make the release out to be a little better than it really is. let's face it - the JPG shots look like a real dvdrip. maybe they just look better because they are condensed from full screen down to how small they are on the site.

but anyway, i'm not trashing the release. the release is great. it seems most people agree that it is a TS, and if that's the case, it truly is the best i've ever seen. if it's a TC it's no better than any other TC i've seen. with that the case, i gave it a 10/10. the sound was honestly the best i've ever heard from a non-dvd rip. it is amazing.

great release. i hope we get good releases like this for the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre as well as Freddy vs. Jason !


Posted by cofferscuffs on 08-05-2003 09:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by parasiticgannon
Cofferscuffs, at first you said it's not a cam, then you say it's not a tc. What could it be?


it can't be a tc due to the fact there's no cigburns and there's a *slight* angle.

i did conceed however in my last post it could of been a *professional* non-consumer cam. of course this is all my opinion.

and yes you're right, it doesn't actually matter tbh

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Posted by KrackZaa on 08-05-2003 09:43 PM:

well whatever this is i know one thing for sure: its a damn good copy. sound is great, actually hits a little bit, and it was synched perfectly with the video. the video is a lil bright especially at the beginning of cd2. the angle makes me believe it is some kind of professional camera, because the pic is abnormally good. great release if you like the movie and have the others get this anyway.

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Posted by your name her on 08-05-2003 09:59 PM:

pretty damn good!!

video has awesome colors
sounds is perfect

10/10/9

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Posted by KaZaN on 08-05-2003 10:07 PM:

Talking nice work but is aint a TC

looks perfect but i think its a Telesync from a pdvd not a Telecine

best Telesync i ever see

8/8/9


Posted by psyche on 08-05-2003 11:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cofferscuffs
actually i have, its not that hard though to grasp the fact that camming a canvas which is being projected on would never be able to retain the luminance/saturation/contrast/rgb/wl with or without the aid of filters

sure you can remove contrast flickers with deflicker filters, and yea you can restore a certain amount of colour but you can't resolve the wl variants flawlessly without going through each frame (well maybe not that specific but you get the idea) and doing a manual wl and/or histogram correction

oh and keep in mind the luminance would be centred in the middle, getting less as you go out from the "pinpoint" doesn't help either

maybe its a non-consumer cam? i dunno. but it's not a tc for sure.

If you can remember back to the TFE days, their X-Men "screener/telecine" were actually mislabeled telesyncs but they looked as good as this but weren't encoded as svcd (since this was quite a while back). They didn't have luminance/saturation/contrast/rgb/wl with or without the aid of filters problems. And Luminance would only be centered in the middle if the area around the screen were darker but hey, they might have had the light on or might have been camming a monitor in the booths instead of the canvas But blah, great release anyways but I don't think it deserves a 10, it's quite grainy with minor motion blur. Agent Cody Banks by Basic was more of a "TC".


Posted by bryehn on 08-05-2003 11:14 PM:

great release...

will be sticking with my ctp, cause i wasn't a fan of this one...but if y'all managed to avoid t3 for some reason...it's not gonna get better till some sort of dvd round xmas...

9/9/6

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Posted by Chewsmoka on 08-05-2003 11:37 PM:

Video : Couldn't ask for much better, fuckin awesome.

Audio : Just as good as the video, great!

Reclica your the shit!!!!

9.5/9.5/9

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Dude, It wasn't there and still isn't... I was waiting to see what the pic looked like cuz the release was up, but there was no pic and i didn't find the sample, mo fo. Don't make me come and tie ur arms to ur chair and beat u silly with your own keyboard

lol

Will edit this after i get it.


Posted by Nuke on 08-05-2003 11:44 PM:

Great Release!

Mad Props to Replica


Posted by ReTiCuLeX on 08-06-2003 12:08 AM:

omg i saw it in the theaters now i get to watch it again in TC quality very nice job, Video - 9 , Audio - 9 , Movie - 8 NJ replica!


Posted by Nuke on 08-06-2003 12:35 AM:

Great Release!

Mad Props to Replica


Posted by DaGaMe87 on 08-06-2003 01:26 AM:

Wow, great release, and i say it is a TC, because it looks too good to be a TS and, did any actually notice all the credits are there, this only happens on TC's because TS credits get cut, well all the TS's i have seen. Definatly get this, cause any1 who says i will stick with the CTP release, is very stupid as this is by far the best out.

Audio: 8 Not a 10 cause its not a DVD RIP!!!!!!

Video: 9 Excellant

Movie: 10 When i saw the trailer i thought it would be a VERY shit movie, but i think it is ONE of the best movies of the year.

Thanks replica for this great release, hope to see more TC movies from u


Posted by noone on 08-06-2003 01:27 AM:

Boy, You People

Why dont all you people shut the fuck up about whether this is a TC or TS. It doesn't really matter. We don't need to know how l337 you are that you can tell the difference between the two.

What matters is that this is a kick-ass release.

9/9/10


Posted by Jdigital03 on 08-06-2003 01:45 AM:

great rls regardless of source ts, tc........whatever

9/8/8 GooD Job Replica \m/


Posted by btz on 08-06-2003 01:49 AM:

damn, replica doin alot of great TC's lately.. liked their matrix 2 rls also ... good work replica!


Posted by parasiticgann on 08-06-2003 02:28 AM:

Yep, Watched more of it, It sure as hell isn't a TC at all. It looks good, Quite good actually, but one of the best TS's I have ever seen. Good shit.


Posted by mrnoregard on 08-06-2003 03:24 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by DaGaMe87
Wow, great release, and i say it is a TC, because it looks too good to be a TS and, did any actually notice all the credits are there, this only happens on TC's because TS credits get cut, well all the TS's i have seen. Definatly get this, cause any1 who says i will stick with the CTP release, is very stupid as this is by far the best out.

Audio: 8 Not a 10 cause its not a DVD RIP!!!!!!

Video: 9 Excellant

Movie: 10 When i saw the trailer i thought it would be a VERY shit movie, but i think it is ONE of the best movies of the year.

Thanks replica for this great release, hope to see more TC movies from u



Credits are not always cut...... quite a few telesyncs with credits included.......... anyways great release!!!!

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Posted by badboyz on 08-06-2003 03:40 AM:

I agree with Air1, hope we get this kind of a quality release for upcoming great movies like SWAT and Fready vs Jason

I don't mind if a group take a few weeks to release a movie. It's better to release something excellent like this T3 than like some groups who rush and try to beat the other groups and release sub-par movies like LXG and Bad Boy 2

Just my 2 cents


Posted by EmPreSS on 08-06-2003 04:35 AM:

Just watched the sample. With all the build-up I had to check it out and I must say DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE. Yes, this is a very very good copy but it's nowhere near being near-dvd quality. It's not even vhs quality (well, it's as good as an old vhs tape). If you truly love this move and want a version that is a nice improvement over the ctp rls, then get this. But if you're expecting something that's near-dvd, then you'll be sorely disappointed. I'm downloading the entire film now just because I wanna see if it all is as clear as the sample shown. I'm hoping there are no pixelated moments during the action like the ctp rls had.

If this was released back in early July we'd all be super happy. But it's been a month since T3 debuted in USA so the joy isn't as great by seeing this rls. But.... if you watch it on your puter and shrink the image it does look like vhs quality and maybe even dvd. But, I don't like watching movies in some shrunken state... I like 'em full-size.

From sample:
Audio: 9 Video: 8 Movie gets a 7

--- update: I just watched the entire film again and this is a TS for sure. But it's a very good one with NO pixelated scenes and the audio is outstanding all the way through. But like I said, the movie is a month old so I'm not as excited about this rls as I might have been if it came sooner....

People who think this is a TC have no idea what a TC is. This rls is a TS - a great TS!

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Posted by Gville on 08-06-2003 04:40 AM:

What the hell are you people looking at!? There is no way this is a TS! If it was cammed in a theater, you would see those cig burns all over the screen. I also dont see the angle you guys speak of. This is a beautiful release!


Posted by kakarot12300 on 08-06-2003 04:56 AM:

holy jesus!

this is the only time i've ever regretted getting the centropy release first.

9/9/9


Posted by BirdySOHC on 08-06-2003 05:34 AM:

I can't believe I'm deleting a CTP version of a film before having watched it.

This release makes me want to sit and watch the movie NOW

Based off the sample..

9/10/9

Awesome Telecine.


Posted by Naughty_Sauce on 08-06-2003 05:54 AM:

The sample plays a little fast on my system (through Power DVD). Anybody else notice this?

Maybe it's just my system.


Posted by ACiDCrasH on 08-06-2003 07:26 AM:

One word, EXCELLENT !!!!


Posted by luckyluke80 on 08-06-2003 07:55 AM:

GOOD!

just watched the first cd and was good quality in dark sceens the movie it a little boxy but still a very good rls!


Posted by sirghost on 08-06-2003 08:05 AM:

sweet quality..for a TS..what gives it away is the shadow of a persons head about 7 minutes into the first cd...other then that, sweet quality video and audio...

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Posted by G-Unit on 08-06-2003 08:20 AM:

GREAT SHIT FOR IT'S TYPE...CAN'T GET ANY BETTA THAN THIS


9/9/8

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Posted by thorell on 08-06-2003 09:19 AM:

juding from the sample, I'd say 9.5/.9.5/6. I still believe this is a TC, not a TS. And if it was a TS, WOW


Posted by desertboy on 08-06-2003 09:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BirdySOHC
I can't believe I'm deleting a CTP version of a film before having watched it.

This release makes me want to sit and watch the movie NOW

Based off the sample..

9/10/9

Awesome Telecine.




It's all good but there's been better TC's if that's what this really is. If it's a TS then I don't think I've ever seen a better rip better than anything CTP have ripped in the last 2 years.

I'd give it an 8/9.5/8 if it's a TC
10/9.5/8 if it's a TS

only skimmed the 1st disk no sync issues for me, viewed in xbmp.

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Posted by Extractor on 08-06-2003 11:44 AM:

Terminator.3.Rise.of.the.Machines.TC.DVDR-Replica

I just tried this little baby! It's 5.1 audio, impressing audio effects!! Compared to those buzzing mono-lines we're used to for pre-retail/pre-screener it's a hell of a difference. I think this is best non-retail/screener qual I've ever seen.

9/9/9


Posted by deadsquirrel on 08-06-2003 12:12 PM:

are you sure its 5.1? I thought it said in the nfo that its downsampled?... but what do i know... im just a newbie.


Posted by lickmyzack on 08-06-2003 01:42 PM:

Excellent quality release, wish there were more like it :-)
Video is excellent, audio is fantastic as well!!

9/9/9


Posted by thorell on 08-06-2003 02:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy
It's all good but there's been better TC's if that's what this really is. If it's a TS then I don't think I've ever seen a better rip better than anything CTP have ripped in the last 2 years.

I'd give it an 8/9.5/8 if it's a TC
10/9.5/8 if it's a TS

only skimmed the 1st disk no sync issues for me, viewed in xbmp.



dude, the one this movie is the same, no matter what source it is


Posted by groov on 08-06-2003 05:41 PM:

Finally got around to burn it and popped it in the dvd player - and wow it's great.

I never leech CAM/TS cause I hate bad colour/angle/sound and all that shit but this pwned me. Also the movie opens here on friday

9/9/?


Posted by desertboy on 08-06-2003 08:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by thorell
dude, the one this movie is the same, no matter what source it is


Dude I rate things on what they are!

A TC of this quality has room for improvement so 8/10

A TS of the quality couldn't be much better so 10/10

it's rated video/audio/movie so you see I can have 2 different scores for the same movie depending on source.

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Posted by Gecko on 08-06-2003 08:14 PM:

Deadsquirrel, the 5.1 audio he mentions is on the DVDR version, not this SVCD.


Posted by lorddusty on 08-06-2003 08:42 PM:

Ok I'm about halfway through Cd 1 of this rls and am very impressed so 9/9/8 for the score. As for the source, I'm thinking it is a TS of a DLP source, hence why there are no change over cues (cig burns). In the article
someone posted earlier it mentions recording the image off of a display screen up in the projection booth, which would explain the nice coloration/focus, lack of flicker etc.

Edit: MMk almost through the film now and I've seen a few change over cues as well as a factory splice so I guess DLP is outta the question, just a really nice TS.


Posted by Spurs#1 on 08-06-2003 08:59 PM:

Seen the sample. I give the video 9 and the audio 8. Why cant anyone be grateful that you get a good release only a month after its been released. GOD


Posted by darthhoarder on 08-06-2003 09:17 PM:

why is this rated over 9 on video?
i dl'd both parts..
it is cropped, i hate that, it's like im spying on the movie through a tank's slit-windows. and i couldn't see her titty at the store.
the bright scenes look fine, lot of detail, color is balanced right
the not so bright scenes suck. red faces, dull/blurry dark areas.
the dark scenes are too dark, ie i couldn't really see her ass.
audio is fine - loud and clear, even some stereo action, i noticed.

8.8/9/7

would rank the video higher if the other elements were as good as the clarity and color of the bright scenes, and if it wan't cropped dammit.


Posted by pHo on 08-06-2003 09:24 PM:

i like the way everyone seems overawed with an article that

1. says nothing new at all about anything
2. calls telesyncs "screeners"

..sigh...

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Posted by desertboy on 08-06-2003 11:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pHo
i like the way everyone seems overawed with an article that

1. says nothing new at all about anything
2. calls telesyncs "screeners"

..sigh...



Try
http://www.divx-digest.com/articles/telesync.html

Nothing new about TS's but could teach some newbies a thing or 2.

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Posted by Infinity on 08-07-2003 12:12 AM:

Fantastic quality. Great video and sound, I give it 9/9/8. I'm not going to get into the whole TS/TC debate, regardless of which it is, this is the best release so far!


Posted by LoMan2 on 08-07-2003 01:44 AM:

Not sure whether this is TC or not either but sure as hell is the finest looking Non-DVD rip I have had the pleasure to watch. Beautiful color definition and superb sound. Good movie too!
Keep it up Replica ! 9,10,8


Posted by LoMan2 on 08-07-2003 01:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BirdySOHC
I can't believe I'm deleting a CTP version of a film before having watched it.

This release makes me want to sit and watch the movie NOW

Based off the sample..

9/10/9

Awesome Telecine.



I know what you mean, hell I already watched and loved the CTP version but this version is incredible !


Posted by Crack104 on 08-07-2003 03:47 AM:

The quality on this release is amazing. Much Respect towards REPLICA.


Posted by xxdjs715xx on 08-07-2003 07:30 AM:

very nice quality, very well could be a TS


Posted by Nick13 on 08-07-2003 07:41 AM:

This is amazing! Despite it gets too much ellow sometimes - it's GREAT rls. Video is very good, audio is crispy, the movie is a killer! Thanks REPLICA!
9.5/9.5/9.0


Posted by xMR-Tx on 08-07-2003 08:09 AM:

Great quality, too much noise to be a TC though. Looks more like a TS. And check out the sound...


Posted by sinbad091071 on 08-07-2003 10:08 AM:

The closest Ive seen to dvd quality from a non dvd source, unless your a perfectionist this should satisfy you until the dvd release in December


Posted by combat_evolved on 08-07-2003 01:09 PM:

just downloaded this for the 2nd time, because someone on mIRC was giving out a screwed up file, oh well quality was well worth it.
The video is near perfect love it. Audio sounds awsome to. didn't find anything wrong with this what so ever. oh and one hell of an action movie. Not as good as T2 but ehh still it's a Terminator move *headbangs to Motorhead - Enter Sandman*yeah. oops

10/10/10

:: err was the motorhead thing a joke, cos Enter Sandman is Metallica....


Posted by Jesus H Christ on 08-07-2003 01:11 PM:

Awesome all round


Posted by lance on 08-07-2003 02:03 PM:

sh!t this is like DVD Rip man. perrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfect.

9.9/9.9/8


lance


Posted by MovieBuffGuy on 08-07-2003 03:26 PM:

Who cares if it's a TC or TS...let's just enjoy the damn thing and thank Replica for an AWESOME RLS!! Great job guys!!!

You guys want some cheese with your whine!!


Posted by krazyfoo on 08-07-2003 04:07 PM:

man.. u guys need to watch the WHOLE release to make opinions on a subject as unclear as this..


cuz once u begin the actual movie.... u can see its DARK AS HELL.. i mean... still a sexy ass print.. but way too dark in places for this to be a telecine.... def a telesync.. u can see light adjustments and everything.

still crisp and sound was great...

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Posted by Nick13 on 08-07-2003 04:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by krazyfoo
man.. u guys need to watch the WHOLE release to make opinions on a subject as unclear as this..


cuz once u begin the actual movie.... u can see its DARK AS HELL.. i mean... still a sexy ass print.. but way too dark in places for this to be a telecine.... def a telesync.. u can see light adjustments and everything.

still crisp and sound was great...


Watch it on your TV set - you will see - it's fine - dark parts are ment to be dark.


Posted by chad 07 on 08-07-2003 06:14 PM:

Thumbs up T3 TELECINE

ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT 2 DAY ,IVE JUST GOT A COPY OF T3 TC ON DVDR ,AND ITS A BEAUTY,5.1 DOLBY,MENUS/SCENE SELECTION..THE WORKS,PICTURE QUALITY ...EXCELLENT...


Posted by th3whiterabbi7 on 08-07-2003 06:16 PM:

I've been reading these posts for the past couple of days....you guys are funny. IT's a TC no its a TS, wait its a Screener! lol.

I thought, I want to ramble also,

1. Technically this isn't Replica this is a Russian rls isn't it?
2. If they said it was a TC why complain over it, ask them!
3. Why are people getting pissed over this?!?

ok. i think i'll grab this now.


Posted by yoda on 08-07-2003 07:14 PM:

VERY WELL DONE!

Best release yet!
Think I'll watch it again!

9.8/10 video
9.8/10 audio
9/10 movie

Arnold rox!
If you haven't seen this movie yet this is a GREAT release.
little video correction but as close to the DVD as it gets!

Props to Replica


Posted by krazyfoo on 08-07-2003 11:08 PM:

quote:
By Nick13:
Watch it on your TV set - you will see - it's fine - dark parts are ment to be dark.



Nick13.. i can only hope ur not 13.. cuz right there u lose all credibility w/ me (sorry im an unfair bastard)

anyhow... i wouldnt make comments unless i knew what i was talkin about it. and uh.. i DID watch it on my TV ya dolt.

and in comparison to being in the theater for T3... its HELLA dark. i dont know how one can dispute that.


but yes.. this argument has been beat to a pulp..its sexy quality.. its not Replicas.. and its not a TC. and that article citing russian's ability to copy movies w/ tc capabilities.. in no way links it directly to this rip. tc machines are big... and time consuming.. and take a certain amount of understanding. bah im not arguing it.. sorry haha.. started gettin carried away hehe.

overall its great quality either way.. and the sound is still superb.. and its the best rls yet.

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Posted by Wolter on 08-08-2003 12:25 AM:

if you read the German Info of the TGSC Rls, you see, that these guys are honest about the Source.If you can understand German (ok most of you probably doesn't)

"...Falls dies wirklich ein TS ist, dann ist es der beste , welchen wir jemals gesehen haben. Wir haben eine komplette PDVD als Source supplied bekommen und stufen daher die Bezeichnung der Qualität lieber wissentlich etwas zurück, anstatt unsere Kollegen übers Ohr zu hauen."

my translation:

"...if this is really a TS, than it's probably the best we've ever seen. We got a PDVD supplied for Source and although we know better, we are decent about the Quality, because we don't want to cheat our colleagues ."


Posted by K-FurY on 08-08-2003 05:43 AM:

Ok, i finally sat down and watched the whole thing today and i must say it is a very awesome release. First things first tho, this imo is a ts, if u watch the credits at the start, the ones at far left and far right, they are on slight angles and some of them are cropped. Also whenever cig burns come up part of them are cropped out. Dark scenes are also VERY dark, and during dark scenes the colors are unnatural. However, that doesnt take away from the many good points of this release. For one thing daytime scenes look just as good as dvd, honestly they are so damn clear and the colors are spot on. There also isnt any noticable motion blur, pixelation or any artifacts. The sound on this release is just fucking amazing, i dont know how they did it, but if u play this on a ss system with prologic II on, it sounds like 5.1, even better then some 5.1 dvd's that i own. i really hope tgsc publishes a tool or atleast a guide on cracking dts discs, because if we have sound like this on all releases, it would just be insane. anyways great job replica, and tgsc on an amazing release (even if it is mislabeled).

9/10/7.5


Posted by NovaDude on 08-08-2003 07:44 AM:

Is your version PAL or NTSC ? Mine is PAL but the movie info on this site says NTSC....


Posted by |nZer0 on 08-08-2003 06:11 PM:

Thumbs up pretty

Its has pretty colours...Sounds pretty too. I like pretty things.


Posted by KingKapalone on 08-08-2003 08:13 PM:

Does this require a DVD burner to be burned and watched on a standalone DVD player?


Posted by kakarot12300 on 08-08-2003 11:36 PM:

um.. its svcd.. not dvd.


Posted by btz on 08-09-2003 02:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by kakarot12300
holy jesus!

this is the only time i've ever regretted getting the centropy release first.

9/9/9



hahahaha.. word!


Posted by CATBOX on 08-09-2003 04:13 AM:

OK. After careful review, I have come to the conclusion that this is indeed a good quality Telesync. NOT a Telecine. I don't know what kind of filters they used on the camera, but it is most definitely a Telesync. After watching it, I don't even know why there was a debate. I guess all the fanboys here on the forum were defending how it was posted, and not actually going by what the release was. If you actually see the release, its clear. The opening credits are cut off, and there is a slight angle. It has the usual dark scene problems like every TS has. It is very good quality though.

CATBOX


Posted by Vcdman45 on 08-09-2003 06:09 PM:

Great rls...Desently fast..however was a little disapointed with this movie..wont be picking this one up which is a shame cause its a greaat rls!!! PROPS!!!

8/9/5


Posted by pHo on 08-09-2003 06:41 PM:

right...

1. aspect ratio looks exactly right, ie nothing missing on any edges and in correct proportions

2. no flicker, so only cam that could've been used is a FILM cam (ie non-consumer except 1 panasonic) , but as the release is in PAL that seems incredibly unlikely. no flicker and no anti-flicker side effects (brightness problems between scene changes). also no focus probs or shakes/lens movements from what i've seen (watched the chase sequence and some of the other explodey bits)

3. colour range is very good BUT small colour balance problems, as light colours are going to white too early.

4. sound is very good, my surrounds kicked in VERY hard from the beginning (prologic)

5. full credits including post-credit logos

6. cigarette burns present so is sourced from inside a theater

sounds likely a video link from the projector was used. they certainly exist, but aren't that widespread in the US from what i know. its all done from the booth. i wouldn't call it a true telecine as thats not performed in the same way. i think labelling TELESYNC or TELECINE is both wrong, but as the "scene" has no markings for this source, then both shouldn't be criticised. personally, i'd have dropped the source label completely, much easier

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Posted by Chewsmoka on 08-10-2003 04:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cofferscuffs
it can't be a tc due to the fact there's no cigburns and there's a *slight* angle.

i did conceed however in my last post it could of been a *professional* non-consumer cam. of course this is all my opinion.

and yes you're right, it doesn't actually matter tbh




ehh, did you actually watch the whole release? There are cig burns on CD 2 when they are in the motor home - when arnold says "Your levity is good, it releaves tention, and the fear of death" There are two unmistakeable cig burns.

Watch closer next time eh.

:: Didn't see your last post pho - I agree fully.

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quote:
Originally posted by platinum_bomb
Dude, It wasn't there and still isn't... I was waiting to see what the pic looked like cuz the release was up, but there was no pic and i didn't find the sample, mo fo. Don't make me come and tie ur arms to ur chair and beat u silly with your own keyboard

lol

Will edit this after i get it.


Posted by Steeldrago on 08-11-2003 01:45 AM:

great release whether it is an actual TC or high definition TS


Posted by XeroFightsAlo on 08-11-2003 04:22 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Steeldrago
great release whether it is an actual TC or high definition TS

high definition...damit why is there no laugh smiley?


Posted by Mythal on 08-11-2003 10:42 AM:

Amazing quality for non dvd rip.
movie .. well its terminator

9/9/8


Posted by MaStERjedi420 on 08-12-2003 04:56 AM:

amazing....best ts ive ever seen if it really is a ts... 9/9.5/9


Posted by Scorch on 08-13-2003 07:36 PM:

I, personally, don't know whether it's a TC or a TS.. then again, I could care less.. it's a thing of beauty. The scenes at the beginning are a bit dark.. other than that, it's awesome.

9/10/10


Posted by Ravagekd on 10-10-2003 03:15 PM:

hate to necropost, but just watched this last night... amazing quality

9/9/8.5 (i had seen it before, but still a damn fine film imo)


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