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Posted by btz on 12-29-2002 02:21 AM:

sample doesnt show much, but i downloaded it any way.. hope the rest of it is better.. sound was kinda low.. didnt hear much.. but.. well.. im on a lan.. and there is ALOT of music here


Posted by Reallystupid1 on 12-29-2002 02:23 AM:

any good?

wow, 4 cd's, is this quality any good?


Posted by KiNtAlO on 12-29-2002 02:35 AM:

Nice To See A New Release BUT....

Nice to see another good release from FTF but cmon 4 cds the movie isnt that long now. Over kill.


Posted by cofferscuffs on 12-29-2002 02:36 AM:

4cds, video ok, sound shit (video from rebirth french svcd ts audio from godknowswhere) not really worth it at all.... its not like lotr2 is actually that amazing

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Posted by rocawear314 on 12-29-2002 02:37 AM:

lol










CENTROPYS GONE - DEAL WITH IT!


Posted by exorcist on 12-29-2002 02:41 AM:

would REBiRTH have used FTF's video source? that's what they normally do


Posted by KaZaN on 12-29-2002 02:43 AM:

Looks Great :P

sample looks oki
video 6.5
audio 6.5

4 cd's pffff ( will be the dvd screener 5 cd's )


Posted by tonikgin on 12-29-2002 02:44 AM:

Angry omfg...

I cant believe ftf are this fuckign dumb.. one word: NUKE!


Posted by buttheaduk on 12-29-2002 02:48 AM:

9/9/*

Just watched the sample (Been a while since i last saw a TS sample. The video quality is awesome and same with the sound. The release is a bit over done with the 4 cds but hey if you dont like it dont leech it.

Enough said and Respect Fuck The Feds :P





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Posted by natefrog on 12-29-2002 02:48 AM:

omg 4cds that's insane

nice to see a good quality english version of the movie but 4cds is to much
I did a svcd dvd rip of the first movie on 3 cds and it was great quality damn close to the dvd so I know this could have been made on 3cds if ftf knew wtf they were doing


Posted by rocawear314 on 12-29-2002 02:48 AM:

actually REBiRTH aint use FTFs video maybe a few times but i downloaded an REBIRTH Rls of 8 mile and it was ECOs video source.


Posted by cofferscuffs on 12-29-2002 02:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by exorcist
would REBiRTH have used FTF's video source? that's what they normally do


its rebith's video with ftf sound, but normally its the other way round

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Posted by exorcist on 12-29-2002 02:53 AM:

downloading the REBiRTH sample, am interested in it now


Posted by TranceYo on 12-29-2002 02:59 AM:

samples

I was wondering, where do you guys get your samples from ? Is there a website or something ?
thank you

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Posted by Doughnuts on 12-29-2002 03:02 AM:

Quality doesnt seem that great, havent seen sample yet, nice movie either way.

6.5/?/9


Posted by Fact0ry on 12-29-2002 03:04 AM:

damn who made the .jpg????

i have just look the sample and its awesome!!! video is very good 10 , its right sound is not the best 7
But then i go to vcdquality , and i saw the jpg!!! who made it! its horrible! need someone remake the jpg because the guy who made it have a p2 200


Posted by strawhair on 12-29-2002 03:06 AM:

ok tell me this-im not saying i like the quality of this release(judging sample)-but can any of you complaining about the 4cds thing tell me something?......
tcf released the dvd screener last year of the first lotr on 4cds(svcds)and i didnt hear a fucking peep from any of you?...in fact it was only "damn-the best fucking pirate i've ever seen-if i didnt know better i'd swear it was dvd"-or words to that effect.now-as i said i know the quality isnt great on this-obviously NOWHERE NEAR the dvd screener of fellowship....but tell me this.....why are u all complaining about 4 cds-jeez-not a single person complained about the 4th cd on fellowship i think. so tell me what is the problem here-maybe quality puts u off?....well-comments suggest so.....but ratings say otherwise....correct me if i am wrong?.....apologies for sounding incoherrent or arsey-but their ya go...
dan
ps-please feel free to dish out the usual mature comments like "stop sucking tcfs dick"...or "fucking dalnet/kazaa kiddies/lamers" etc.....because im sure everybody on this board is impressed by them........


Posted by thadoc on 12-29-2002 03:07 AM:

could the freakin jpg's be ne bigger

my eyes hurt


Posted by JonoG5 on 12-29-2002 03:10 AM:

Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality.


Posted by Reallystupid1 on 12-29-2002 03:18 AM:

uh hu

this is FTF's second release of the two towers, the first was a proper, and the quality still sucks IMO. I'm still waiting for the screener


Posted by Cory on 12-29-2002 03:23 AM:

Wow some of you guys that posted are really ignorant...
You really have to consider that this is SVCD...
The other releases were VCD and were only 3 CDs...
Now do the math...SVCD is bigger than regular VCD, so may require another CD do to the length of this movie...
"Uh oh I have to waste a whole 15 cent CD and 7 minutes of my time to burn this extra CD...so I will complain and hope it gets nuked."

I don't think that this release was needed really, because the UTi version was perfectly fine to me (unless some parts were missing...I wouldn't have known because I didn't go see it in the theatre). It's always good to have more releases though for the people who haven't grabbed any of the Lord Of The Ring releases...as for me, I'm sticking with the UTi until a SCR or maybe even until retail comes out...just my opinion on that.


Posted by Stabbe on 12-29-2002 03:23 AM:

Maybe because it is a TS source and not DVD source , that´s why it´s a overkill.

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Posted by tonikgin on 12-29-2002 03:23 AM:

strawhair - first off, i am complainign because this quality is NOT from a dvd source. also, this quality is nowhere near to be comsidered a svcd, the idiot that posted earlier giving it 9/9/* is a complete fool and obviousally some member of ftf. The svcd released last year was dvd source, thus eligible for svcd, plus it is a long movie, therefore needing more cd's. This is a telesync, some guy in a theatre with a tripod seup and a camera pointign to the screen... not dvd quality at all. stick to vcd ts's. </rant>


Posted by jhtm on 12-29-2002 03:24 AM:

4 cds

Nobody complained about the 4 cd's because it was a DVD Screener.. not a Telesync..
oh yeah.. and stop sucking ftf's dick you scriptkiddie/dalnet/kazaa poser..


was it just me or before any reveiws were up did anyone else notice that ftf had voted themselves in at 9/9/10?


Posted by PhreakerX on 12-29-2002 03:25 AM:

yes, that was also DVD QUALITY. This is a shitty stolen TS.
Yeah and im a member of sWs LOL. just because someone votes highly does not mean they are a member of a group. I see people say that everyday. its so retarded

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Posted by culov on 12-29-2002 03:27 AM:

am i the only one that thinks uti's cam is still the best release??


Posted by vcdmanone on 12-29-2002 03:43 AM:

Unhappy

As usual it is nothing but crap as quality from FTF, simply if they are going to do a telesync how about getting a decent source to record on to. Video is horrible so is the Audio.


Posted by Aff on 12-29-2002 03:44 AM:

looks like a re-encode

it be bright so bah

will wait for a better source before getting this again

6/*/9


Posted by skevlin on 12-29-2002 03:51 AM:

quote:
strawhair - first off, i am complainign because this quality is NOT from a dvd source. also, this quality is nowhere near to be comsidered a svcd, the idiot that posted earlier giving it 9/9/* is a complete fool and obviousally some member of ftf. The svcd released last year was dvd source, thus eligible for svcd, plus it is a long movie, therefore needing more cd's. This is a telesync, some guy in a theatre with a tripod seup and a camera pointign to the screen... not dvd quality at all. stick to vcd ts's


Maybe they released it as a SVCD because some DVD players only play SVCD's, like the new Apex cheapies, they lost the rights to VCD.

:: Vcd is still more widely supported than svcd, does not matter if ONE player stopped supporting it


Posted by LMB on 12-29-2002 03:59 AM:

bleh, i'm waiting for a dvdscr like most of the people here. No need for a svcd telesync.


Posted by |Ware|Man on 12-29-2002 04:01 AM:

lol, ftf u messed up again, u used another grps video from a french grp.. lol .. i knew u guys were gonna fuck up on the sound


Posted by Commy on 12-29-2002 04:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JonoG5
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality.


the intelligence really shines around here. TCF released both the DVD Screener, and months later the retail DVD rip

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Posted by Snowbording4138 on 12-29-2002 04:12 AM:

this is a ts it shouldnt b a svcd


Posted by Adrian on 12-29-2002 04:14 AM:

waste of 4 cds and SHIT ASSHOLE quality uti still ownz


Posted by blitzed on 12-29-2002 04:26 AM:

this is a joke right

plz tell me this is some kind of joke. ne reason for this


Posted by fateswarm on 12-29-2002 04:27 AM:

This release is completely useless and shows great disrespect to the scene. UTI's release was *obviously* the best - even with the cam falls - and it is completely stupid to release this one.

On top of that, it is not a real release but a re-encode, which comes from the video source of non-so-good-like-the-uti-release source.

0/10 for stupidity

4 CDs.. next time make 6 cds for the sample and 2 or 3 DVD-Rs for the first part till the break.

It's such a pointless release that I keep thinking this is not actually coming from FTF but from a fake-er.


Posted by realized on 12-29-2002 04:28 AM:

This rls rox

just saw the sample....

Compared to UTi:

Picture is way better then UTi , a little bright but VERY CLEAR/SHARP..

sound is hands down the best , peorid..


good job FTF


Posted by rocawear314 on 12-29-2002 04:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PhreakerX
yes, that was also DVD QUALITY. This is a shitty stolen TS.
Yeah and im a member of sWs LOL. just because someone votes highly does not mean they are a member of a group. I see people say that everyday. its so retarded



u dumb u just admitted ur a member of a piracy group on a public website. Claping out loud!

You know whats wrong here if this was from CENTROPY u would be kissin their asses because of the name they made for themselves. you would kiss CENTROPYs ass for this because if it was from them but its from a group u all dont like and u make fun out of them. they did pretty damn good on getting alot of releases this year that other groups didnt tape. yes they were bad to good quality but u still got them and still watched them. so stop makin fun out of FTF when they are a damn good group .


Posted by TBA on 12-29-2002 04:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JonoG5
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality.


Nope. TCF released the LOTR-FOTR DVD Screener last year. Early in Jan.

01/16/2002 SCREENER The Lord Of The Rings *DVD* *SVCD* TCF 9.5 / 9.2 / 9.4


Posted by fateswarm on 12-29-2002 04:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by rocawear314


u dumb u just admitted ur a member of a piracy group on a public website. Claping out loud!

You know whats wrong here if this was from CENTROPY u would be kissin their asses because of the name they made for themselves. you would kiss CENTROPYs ass for this because if it was from them but its from a group u all dont like and u make fun out of them. they did pretty damn good on getting alot of releases this year that other groups didnt tape. yes they were bad to good quality but u still got them and still watched them. so stop makin fun out of FTF when they are a damn good group .



u dumb u just admitted ur a member of FTF


Posted by parasiticgann on 12-29-2002 04:52 AM:

Whoops

I keep hearing not svcd, its not worth more than a vcd. I wonder why people really care that much about 25 cents. Oh wait you have to get up off your fat ass and put the 4th. cd in? The quality on a svcd is better than a vcd, they just want to give the best they can. Trust me i'm not part of any group, i'm just a leacher, I'm to damn chicken shit to make a telesync. or anything like that, sure i can do a dvd rip but thats all in the privacy of my own home, most of the people complaining about this release being a svcd are leachers just like me. beggers can't be choosers. I have only seen the first ftf release of TTT, and the tcf version. ftf won that race hands down, still havn't watched the uti version but am kinda curious about it. but from what i understand the moron dropped the camera quite a few times in the movie, hell that makes the movie that much more entertaining IMO. I do have a question for everyone in this forum who complains about FTF. What are you doing for the scene? if you are doing something other than leaching i would be suprised. FTF sucks i want a better group. I think FTF deserves props on all the releases they put out. not all the best quality but hell its free, if anyone says its not free can give a valid reason for it not being free to them. i would love to hear it. cause if you can't shut the fuck up. Bandwidth, a few cd-rs, HD space isn't a valad reason. thats an excuse. well i'm done with what i have to say. live long and prosper.


Posted by PhreakerX on 12-29-2002 04:54 AM:

rocawear is that stupid guy who got banned awhile ago. the one who was talking about projecting DVDs, and making DVD Telesyncs. I speak for most people when I say go away.

As to FTF, go away. You ruin movies. I dont care if I get flamed. Any group that releases ONLY shitty asian vcds, deserves it.

Also, FTF could have gotten permission from said french group to use there video source. The World May Never Know. [sarcasm]Props to FTF for there 'Quantity over Quality' tactics. You have many loyal followers[/sarcasm]

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Posted by WizCrack42 on 12-29-2002 04:57 AM:

ahhhh!

OK, let me get something straight. Is the sample of this tft release a good representation of the SVCD? If so then it really suks compaired to the UTI release that I have.

Both the sound and the video are pretty crappy on the sample if you ask me.


Posted by KiNtAlO on 12-29-2002 04:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by strawhair
ok tell me this-im not saying i like the quality of this release(judging sample)-but can any of you complaining about the 4cds thing tell me something?......
tcf released the dvd screener last year of the first lotr on 4cds(svcds)and i didnt hear a fucking peep from any of you?...in fact it was only "damn-the best fucking pirate i've ever seen-if i didnt know better i'd swear it was dvd"-or words to that effect.now-as i said i know the quality isnt great on this-obviously NOWHERE NEAR the dvd screener of fellowship....but tell me this.....why are u all complaining about 4 cds-jeez-not a single person complained about the 4th cd on fellowship i think. so tell me what is the problem here-maybe quality puts u off?....well-comments suggest so.....but ratings say otherwise....correct me if i am wrong?.....apologies for sounding incoherrent or arsey-but their ya go...
dan
ps-please feel free to dish out the usual mature comments like "stop sucking tcfs dick"...or "fucking dalnet/kazaa kiddies/lamers" etc.....because im sure everybody on this board is impressed by them........



Back then all svcd were 3 cds plus. Now adays groups have woke up smelled the coffe and do it by minutes. All praise cininma craft.


Posted by petrocs on 12-29-2002 05:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JonoG5
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality.


Wrong DVD Screener was TCF..Ctp released a TS


Posted by petrocs on 12-29-2002 05:07 AM:

Re: damn who made the .jpg????

quote:
Originally posted by Fact0ry
i have just look the sample and its awesome!!! video is very good 10 , its right sound is not the best 7
But then i go to vcdquality , and i saw the jpg!!! who made it! its horrible! need someone remake the jpg because the guy who made it have a p2 200



you must be new..you give this video a 10?
come come little ranger..lemme give you a little advice..get some bi-focals..they might help with your eyesight.. as for the jpg..its pretty much on the money..the sound is quite low also..


Posted by Undeathkiller on 12-29-2002 06:04 AM:

In German there are existing 2 SVCD 4 CD Releases since the 12.25!


Posted by djcycloid on 12-29-2002 06:08 AM:

Re: This rls rox

quote:
Originally posted by realized
Compared to UTi:
Picture is way better then UTi , a little bright but VERY CLEAR/SHARP..

<snip>
Blah blah blah,

good job FTF



Bullshit, I just got the sample and the picture is not better than uti's rls. Its just a shame that the Uti rls had some idiot who dropped the camera 3 times, prick!

It would seem that we must wait for a DVD SCR before we can fully appreciate this movie, who will reward us first?

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Posted by WallIsland on 12-29-2002 06:24 AM:

dont you think 4 cd's are too much? should get the one from UTi and they seem to have the better version.


Posted by Bud-man on 12-29-2002 06:49 AM:

I dont see TCF so i'm not gunna bother, last yrs TCF 4 cd release was the best to date, if it doesnt say DVDSCR dont bother


Posted by Asterisk on 12-29-2002 07:44 AM:

Pic is very nice, sound lets it down a bit though, take out the hiss and it's not too bad. UTi one is good enough just now. I'm not gonna waste the bandwidth on another 4 cd's, unless it's the DVDscreener, which won't be far away now

7/6/9.


Posted by aXs-SVCD on 12-29-2002 07:52 AM:

Movie is not bad, Quality is alright too. I can't wait for DVDScR but till then i will stick with UTi quality sound on this is a little bit bad but quality got better then first release by FTF

Great Job Keep bringing more movies FTF

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Posted by Faceman on 12-29-2002 07:52 AM:

Re: damn who made the .jpg????

quote:
Originally posted by Fact0ry
i have just look the sample and its awesome!!! video is very good 10 , its right sound is not the best 7
But then i go to vcdquality , and i saw the jpg!!! who made it! its horrible! need someone remake the jpg because the guy who made it have a p2 200



Video 10?


Posted by Od|n on 12-29-2002 08:28 AM:

Red face

Well 4 disks now, were getting there slowly, maybe the next realease with be the DVD screener perhaps


Posted by Od|n on 12-29-2002 08:33 AM:

Re: damn who made the .jpg????

quote:
Originally posted by Fact0ry
i have just look the sample and its awesome!!! video is very good 10 , its right sound is not the best 7
But then i go to vcdquality , and i saw the jpg!!! who made it! its horrible! need someone remake the jpg because the guy who made it have a p2 200



Um OK! as i can see it's your first reply ever, prolly the first time you have ever dl'ed a movie or have ever seen a bootleg movie, to even someone that is blind wouldn't give the video a 10. come to think of it, has anyone ever rated a 10 for a movie (even DVDrips)?


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 09:42 AM:

gawd stfu

quote:
Originally posted by natefrog
omg 4cds that's insane

nice to see a good quality english version of the movie but 4cds is to much
I did a svcd dvd rip of the first movie on 3 cds and it was great quality damn close to the dvd so I know this could have been made on 3cds if ftf knew wtf they were doing



You are a fucking tard, leave the boards, please


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 09:44 AM:

another one

quote:
Originally posted by JonoG5
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality.


Hey look at me, im a fuckin moron and say Centropy did it to be smart, but OOPS TCF DID DO IT U FUCKING MORON, GO FUCKING DIE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY!


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 09:46 AM:

here goes #3

quote:
Originally posted by |Ware|Man
lol, ftf u messed up again, u used another grps video from a french grp.. lol .. i knew u guys were gonna fuck up on the sound


I do believe FTF and Rebirth have a mutual agreement, but please, post as if your a smart ass and know something even though you dont, please!


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 09:49 AM:

4 lamer 3 lamer 2 lamer 1

quote:
Originally posted by WizCrack42
OK, let me get something straight. Is the sample of this tft release a good representation of the SVCD? If so then it really suks compaired to the UTI release that I have.

Both the sound and the video are pretty crappy on the sample if you ask me.



No its a very bad representation, because this is the thread for the FTF release, not the tft release


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 09:51 AM:

Exclamation someone turn on anti lamer filter jesus

quote:
Originally posted by WallIsland
dont you think 4 cd's are too much? should get the one from UTi and they seem to have the better version.


YA! 4 CDS IS TOO MUCH! They should have cut out the battle of helmsdeep and cut the bitrate so it would fit on 3! what faggots!

....

SHUT THE FUCK UP MORON!


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 09:53 AM:

6

quote:
Originally posted by PhreakerX
rocawear is that stupid guy who got banned awhile ago. the one who was talking about projecting DVDs, and making DVD Telesyncs. I speak for most people when I say go away.

As to FTF, go away. You ruin movies. I dont care if I get flamed. Any group that releases ONLY shitty asian vcds, deserves it.

Also, FTF could have gotten permission from said french group to use there video source. The World May Never Know. [sarcasm]Props to FTF for there 'Quantity over Quality' tactics. You have many loyal followers[/sarcasm]



Ya, FTF ruins movies. Everytime FTF rels a movie, and my friends wanna see it in the theater, im like, naw dawgs, FTF rel'd it, so it will suck if we go see it, lets see Pokemon Butt Fuck Prison Rape 2005 instead!

THINK BEFORE U SPEAK JESUS!


Posted by rattlesnake20 on 12-29-2002 09:57 AM:

ok a few things 1. i have just look the sample and its awesome!!! video is very good 10 , its right sound is not the best 7
But then i go to vcdquality , and i saw the jpg!!! who made it! its horrible! need someone remake the jpg because the guy who made it have a p2 200 STFU Will ya 2. Originally posted by JonoG5
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality. STFU i agree Jaurai

3. crap quality crap sound not worth the fuckin hassle fuck it 2/2/10


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 09:59 AM:

7

quote:
Originally posted by Cory

I don't think that this release was needed really, because the UTi version was perfectly fine to me (unless some parts were missing...I wouldn't have known because I didn't go see it in the theatre). It's always good to have more releases though for the people who haven't grabbed any of the Lord Of The Ring releases...as for me, I'm sticking with the UTi until a SCR or maybe even until retail comes out...just my opinion on that.



Sup, im a moron who didnt even see the movie in the theater but feels i am able to judge the quality, even tho i have nothing to actually compare it to seeing as how i never saw it in perfect quality. Also I am too stupid to not think that the picture going black a few times means anything and must be normal, along with the video jumping when tapes switch, must be normal theater going experiences. Neato!

so... many... lamers.... not.... enough.... time....


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 10:03 AM:

i lost count

quote:
Originally posted by btz
sample doesnt show much, but i downloaded it any way.. hope the rest of it is better.. sound was kinda low.. didnt hear much.. but.. well.. im on a lan.. and there is ALOT of music here


WOW! your on a lan!?!?!??!! and therse MUSIC!?!?!? wow! i can see how you being on a lan with music has alot to do with judging the sample! i mean, WOW a lan with music, holy crap!


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 10:05 AM:

Re: omfg...

quote:
Originally posted by tonikgin
I cant believe ftf are this fuckign dumb.. one word: NUKE!


i cant believe your too fucking dumb to spell fucking, and, YA LETS NUKE SOMETHING JUST CUZ CUZ WE ARE STUPID LIKE THAT AND FTF IS FUCKIGN DUMB DOODZ OMFG!

You dont nuke stuff just cuz its from ftf, and its a good release, so shut THE fuck UP!


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 10:07 AM:

Lightbulb this guy is a genius!

quote:
Originally posted by thadoc
could the freakin jpg's be ne bigger

my eyes hurt



You have to use lounge room comic highlights moron.

Could the freaking jpegs BE any bigger? I mean seriously folks, these jpgs make my penis look like the eiffel tower here!

VCDQUALITY should post JPG's at 4x4 pixels, that way we can more easily see quality and save bw at same time! yay!+


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 10:09 AM:

Re: 4 cds

quote:
Originally posted by jhtm


was it just me or before any reveiws were up did anyone else notice that ftf had voted themselves in at 9/9/10?



You say that as if there are reviews in these comments, but all i see is ppl bitching about OMFG ITS 4 CDS! or OMFG SVCD SUX CENTROPY RoX I MEAN TCF I MEAN I LOVE EVERY SCENE GIVE ME ANAL NOW DUDE!


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 10:10 AM:

so tired

quote:
Originally posted by Snowbording4138
this is a ts it shouldnt b a svcd


Didn't see ya complainin when Centropy was doin it, NIGGAH!


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 10:18 AM:

m

quote:
Originally posted by Undeathkiller
In German there are existing 2 SVCD 4 CD Releases since the 12.25!


Also in German there are existing SVCD of man taking 25" black dildo in anus while penis is being choking by metal grip


Posted by outburst8 on 12-29-2002 10:26 AM:

Jurai why are you such an asshole? I'm really curious because you never have anything intelligent to say, all you do is flame. Just because you never had any friends doesn't mean you can make fun of people. "Holy SHIT! WizCrack42 called FTF "TFT" Time for the deragatory sarcasm to make him feel like shit. Oh no! WallIsland said 4 CD's was too much! I should call him a faggot! It will make me feel better because I was always made fun of in school and over the internet I'm perfect in every way possible because no one knows how big of a loser I really am!" There are a quite a few more examples. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. Stop being a dick. You aren't funny and making fun of people doesnt make make you cool nor does it make up for the fact that you are a loser. Don't post ever again unless you have something intelligent to say or unless you aren't gonna flame. Jesus fucking christ im sick of typing properly. by the way this ftf release can suck it along with every other FTF release. anyone who gave this anything higher than a 6 on video is either a n00b, a member of ftf, or just plain fucking retarded. christ im a hipocrit


Posted by m-drew on 12-29-2002 10:28 AM:



I mean FTF is bad, but this bad. WOW!


Posted by revolution-x on 12-29-2002 10:42 AM:

Re: i lost count

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai


WOW! your on a lan!?!?!??!! and therse MUSIC!?!?!? wow! i can see how you being on a lan with music has alot to do with judging the sample! i mean, WOW a lan with music, holy crap!



we all lost count of how many times ur gonna be an (un)smartass and post ur comments, do u all a favour and piss off ! we dont need or want u !


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 10:46 AM:

Re: Re: i lost count

quote:
Originally posted by revolution-x


we all lost count of how many times ur gonna be an (un)smartass and post ur comments, do u all a favour and piss off ! we dont need or want u !



This is post 14 i do believe, and by 'we', do you mean the dumbass coalition of america? cuz everyone seems to enjoy how i point out the lack of any fucking brains among you guys. piss off? are you a stupid person in the UK? if so, im not gonna bother typing anything else cuz thats enough of a flame right there, g'night


Posted by desertboy on 12-29-2002 10:48 AM:

Maybe it's just me but I don't care what the jpegs look like it's the motion scenes that every other copy (Yes including UTI) are unwatchable pixelates. It could be their cam mor the encoding if A svcd sorts this out I'd be happier. For all the cock sucking whores of CT-P, they're dead in the ultra elite scene and their dvd rips are nothing special. I could do as good myself and I'm just a lay man. Maybe 2 years after they died we'll stop having their name plastered over a thread although this xmas the buzz phrase is where's dvd screener of 2 towers which is just as anoying as I'll just wait for CT-P.

Not going to bother with this release but not because of the posts because as always I know at least 80% of you haven't seen it or have seen the sample of the other FTF release and are confused. The sample is from the same scene.

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Posted by tonikgin on 12-29-2002 10:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by rocawear314


u dumb u just admitted ur a member of a piracy group on a public website. Claping out loud!

You know whats wrong here if this was from CENTROPY u would be kissin their asses because of the name they made for themselves. you would kiss CENTROPYs ass for this because if it was from them but its from a group u all dont like and u make fun out of them. they did pretty damn good on getting alot of releases this year that other groups didnt tape. yes they were bad to good quality but u still got them and still watched them. so stop makin fun out of FTF when they are a damn good group .



if centropy released this i woudl flame them too and call this a shit release, then ask them for more dvd-r's


Posted by FlyingBig on 12-29-2002 11:11 AM:

Ill say this...theres a lot of hate in this forum and its fun ito watch but serious guys, GET ALONG!


Posted by desertboy on 12-29-2002 11:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by aXs-SVCD
Movie is not bad, Quality is alright too. I can't wait for DVDScR but till then i will stick with UTi quality sound on this is a little bit bad but quality got better then first release by FTF

Great Job Keep bringing more movies FTF

and hell with all Flamers




Too right, 90% of people here deserve to die a slow and painful death, for the good of all mankind. At the very least should never breed which I suppose is quite lucky 'cos I think there's a disproportionate ammount of virgins here.

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Posted by beholder on 12-29-2002 12:08 PM:

Exclamation 4CD not needed, read why

humm

I downloaded the Rebirth release few days ago (it was released on 24th), that release was a 3CD DiVX (NOT svcd or vcd), Rebirth being used to do more divx than svcd (I don't know why).

So well I don't like watching movies on computer so I decided to make a SVCD of that release to watch it on my standalone player with friends.

I really didn't want to do a 4CD reencode of it, so I had to modify video bitrates :
- cd1 gets 1600kbps bitrate, fits on 80' cd-r
- cd2 gets 1350kbps bitrate, fits too
- cd3 gets 1600kbps bitrate, fits too
- audio is 224kbps, 44100 Stereo

Now I dont remember if the scene standards are 1150 or 1500kbps for minimum svcd bitrate (my cd2 would be nuked then), but c'mon, the difference between 1500kbps and 1350kbps encodes is hard to see, especially on a TV. Btw, FTF nfo doesnt say anything about their bitrates, so I guess they used max svcd bitrate when reencoding without thinking about doing a correct 3CD reencode.

So well.. 4CD reencode wasn't needed, FTF probably did it because :
- they are lazy
- they decided to get max bitrate from Rebirth release but hey,... 4CD for a TS !!! This TS wasn't a Centropy one, guys...


Posted by -=[DaZliNk]=- on 12-29-2002 12:43 PM:

Well in my opinion it is pretty much a waste of time encoding a film from a telesync source to SVCD.

The higher SVCD bitrates & res does no more for it than the VCD standard when it originally comes from such a low quality source in the first place.

It is just a waste of people time downloading the extra bloated size of a extra CD in this case.

I do think color contrast does look a little better than the UTi release I have, with the white not looking so blue.
(From what I have seen so far anyway).

But I'm starting to think no release group has the damn dvd screener with all these sub-standard telesync/cam versions floating about.


Posted by bundyman on 12-29-2002 12:53 PM:

Re: Re: Re: i lost count

almost none of you has something usefull to say. like what quality the movie is, you just keep flaming eachother and pretending you know everything about this"scene" and every group releasing anything...yeah!


Jurai: OMG dude...


Posted by PhreakerX on 12-29-2002 12:57 PM:

Re: 6

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai
Ya, FTF ruins movies. Everytime FTF rels a movie, and my friends wanna see it in the theater, im like, naw dawgs, FTF rel'd it, so it will suck if we go see it, lets see Pokemon Butt Fuck Prison Rape 2005 instead!

THINK BEFORE U SPEAK JESUS!


ok stop spamming first... Now I meant the quality of FTF's releases ruin the movies quality to the point where it ruins the film which i clearly stated...

this release sucks dont bother with it...

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Posted by Comedy on 12-29-2002 01:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JonoG5
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality.


That's funny seeing as i still have that movie:
The.Lord.Of.The.Rings.Fellowship.Of.The.Rings.DVDSCR.SVCD-TCF


Posted by Mr_Grinch on 12-29-2002 01:53 PM:

I think the sample is missleading, the actual quality of this release is much better than it first seems, sure there're bits that dont look too hot but most ofa the film looks pretty good... well, I haven't got all the cds yet but from what I've seen it looks good.

Not REALLY worth getting if you've got the uti.

Oh and FtF's video player is shit (this is regarding their first release), they should get it cleaned... or buy a new one!

Oh and also, Jurai, you're an idiot.


Posted by iso4days on 12-29-2002 02:17 PM:

DAMN

Let me just say this to all who read this. THANK you for all the FREE movies you guys put out for us. Just though I would throw that out there for all the people who have forgoten to thank you for all the FREE RELEASES. as for the 4 cd's I dont mind it keeps me busy.


Posted by Rich_T on 12-29-2002 02:22 PM:

ould you please tell me where you get movie samples of the releases?

Thanks

Rich_T


Posted by SilentDeath on 12-29-2002 02:29 PM:

Talking

lol this is the worst flame thread ever and jurai is clearly leading the race

whats up with everyone sayins utis rls is good? its barely watchable..

/me waits for jurai to quote me and add some stupid comment cuz it makes him feel better about himself


Posted by buttheaduk on 12-29-2002 02:46 PM:

If any on you lamers here have actually watched the sample and not said oh this is shit it looks nothing like a DVD Screener i give it 3/5/10. I remember TCF releasing lotr1 and it was so much better.


Your fucking idiots this is a TS and is excellent for TS standards.


Posted by thejackal2000 on 12-29-2002 02:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by outburst8
Jurai why are you such an asshole? I'm really curious because you never have anything intelligent to say, all you do is flame. Just because you never had any friends doesn't mean you can make fun of people. "Holy SHIT! WizCrack42 called FTF "TFT" Time for the deragatory sarcasm to make him feel like shit. Oh no! WallIsland said 4 CD's was too much! I should call him a faggot! It will make me feel better because I was always made fun of in school and over the internet I'm perfect in every way possible because no one knows how big of a loser I really am!" There are a quite a few more examples. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. Stop being a dick. You aren't funny and making fun of people doesnt make make you cool nor does it make up for the fact that you are a loser. Don't post ever again unless you have something intelligent to say or unless you aren't gonna flame. Jesus fucking christ im sick of typing properly. by the way this ftf release can suck it along with every other FTF release. anyone who gave this anything higher than a 6 on video is either a n00b, a member of ftf, or just plain fucking retarded. christ im a hipocrit


jurai is the only one with any sense. u lot are all bitching about the release, i bet if uti`s release had been 4 cd`s u would have been to$$ing off to it. and the quality would have been only a little better.
now true ftf`s releases are normally low quality, but u lot dl `em, u should know by now what to expect!.
since they release a movie first why not grab it to check the film, then u know weather its worth getting a better version, and ur not wasting ur time and money


Posted by orcko on 12-29-2002 03:02 PM:

Lord of two towers

Hm i look at the sample i just downloaded the picture is a bit better than the other ones but the sound is still very anoying to hear and not very good ! i stil be wainting for a proper screener or a dvd screener 4cds or 3cds does not matter if the sound is not very good anyway . =)


Posted by fateswarm on 12-29-2002 03:32 PM:

blah blah blah

People here who try to convince us about this release, don't understand how bad the timing was.

If this was released around the first TCF and FTF releases it would be acceptable.

Now it's junk and you can do nothing to change the fact the timing of it was so bad, equivalent to releasing the UTI one, just after a DVD screener.


Posted by Klonin on 12-29-2002 03:39 PM:

UTI reencode

Does anyone else notice the same lines as the UTI rip? Any one can cut the first part of UTI and encode to SVCD. Should have redone the first rip which was shit.


Posted by 100%nUkE! on 12-29-2002 04:40 PM:

quote:

_Originally posted by Jurai_
Also in German there are existing SVCD of man taking 25" black dildo in anus while penis is being choking by metal grip



you seem to know exactly what you are talking about...
(and next time please make one thread that i can quickly scroll through.. / wanna flame ->go isonews )

FTFs lotr2-svcdpic is the best of all releases on this listed on this site(*)...after several releases (english/foreign)....the picture is even better than other 4 SVCD-releases of it (not the sound!)...so this release is worth gettin it (for the "english-speaking" audience)....THANKS FTF!

SORRY FOR ALL LAMERS WHO VOTED THIS 6.0/5.3

*(the qualityjpeg is a real mess-please kick the fool who made this one!)...


Posted by darkslide on 12-29-2002 04:44 PM:

klonin.. if this was the same as the uti, the camera would drop 3 times, and there would be a shitload of noise in the background...

Jurai, please refrain from spamming absolute nonsense. All you are doing is flaming idiots. Do you really think that it will make people think you are some sort of perfect internet god? Well you shouldn't, because it makes you seem like an ass, who is a loser in life, and can't get a date. Go jerk off some more, and then come back when you have matured from a 12 year old mama's boy with acne, who has 3 friends, and who still thinks the word "Poopy" is the funniest thing ever. Remember, the more you flame people, the gayer you are.

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Posted by Ripper on 12-29-2002 05:00 PM:

Funny enough there is another lord of the rings this 1 by svenne and is svcd and also a ts

- Lord of the rings - The two towers (2002) -

ÄÅÄÄÄÄ ÄÄ Ä Ä Ä ÄÄ´ RELEASE INFO ÃÄÄ Ä Ä Ä ÄÄ ÄÄÄÅÄ
³ RELEASE DATE:...29/12/2002 CD1:............57x15 ³
³ STREET DATE:....xxx CD2:............57x15 ³
³ LANGUAGE:.......English/Elvish CD3:............57x15 ³
³ LENGTH:.........179min CD4:............54x15 ³
³ QUALITY:........Sweet ³
³ TYPE:...........SVCD ³
ÄÅÄÄÄÄ ÄÄ Ä Ä Ä Ä ÄÄ ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ ÄÄ Ä Ä Ä Ä ÄÄ ÄÄÄÅÄ

i checked the sample out it was 27mb its very possible the quality has come from this sound is quite loud

6/6.5/? judging from sample

The Lord of The Rings Two Towers (2002) *PDVD* 89x50 MB JAZZUISO

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Posted by Wolter on 12-29-2002 05:09 PM:

I pretty much enjoyed the german rls by ACP, it's probably better than the UTI one and it also uses 4 SVCDs!
Don't think this one can beat it!


Posted by Enzomatrx on 12-29-2002 05:38 PM:

REQUEST TO MOD:

Like all TTT threads, this one has gone 95+ posts of just pointless.
Can a mod please clean this thread up and try to find the ones that discuss this release?
Although having gone through the thread i believe there are only about 10, if that.

How about from now on we make two threads for each release? *One related strictly to discussing the quality of the release
*And one solely for people to attack eachother based on the release of a bootleg movie

Some people take this a little too personally, but that's just my opinion.


Posted by buttheaduk on 12-29-2002 07:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripper
Funny enough there is another lord of the rings this 1 by svenne and is svcd and also a ts



The release by svenne and the PDVD were released after this. I havent seen the sample for the release by svenne but the PDVD is much better in quality than this release, i assume the SVCD by svenne is from the PDVD (check greetz in nfo!)


Posted by buttheaduk on 12-29-2002 07:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripper
Funny enough there is another lord of the rings this 1 by svenne and is svcd and also a ts



The release by svenne and the PDVD were released after this. I havent seen the sample for the release by svenne but the PDVD is much better in quality than this release, i assume the SVCD by svenne is from the PDVD (check greetz in PDVD nfo!)


Posted by Lfew on 12-29-2002 07:56 PM:

lamers

to all u ppl out there that complain about 4 cds. Office max has imation cds that are 2.99 for 200 after the rebates. Compusa was giving free packs of 50 per household after rebate. Get a job if u cant afford chump change. I read the uti thread on lotr so i listened and dled it. The sound was a little better than the tcf but the picture was actually worse. Way to grainey and the color was not correctable even when played tv out on my twin view gforce4. You can play with the color guns in advanced settings then twin view. However that never has as good a picture as a dvd player does with progressive scan enabled. To all u other lamers that complain about svcd. Dos died too right along with the 386's and 486's. Are u clowns still using a dvd player from that period? Dont want to build u a new puter for $100 of pricewatch lol. Well, perhaps before this site becomes useless as it has lately, (u cant trust anything said or rated here because of the lameness)- they should only let ppl post here that have real jobs or even a credit report that was good. Another way would be to only let the ppl post that actually contirbute $ to this site. Also, radio shack has a really good go video dvd player for $59 that will play anything. I wanna know a valid rating on the movies not a bunch of lame crap from a bunch of loosers that i bet could not pass a credit app to get a bannana to .... themselves with. For all u losers, this is 2003 and if u aint got a decent dvd player that will play anything, u should not be allowed to post on this site. In fact, i dont think u should be allowed to post if u aint paying taxes. Something has to be done about the bull shit here. One needs a fricken rocket to get above it or beyond it.


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 08:25 PM:

152

quote:
Originally posted by SilentDeath
lol this is the worst flame thread ever and jurai is clearly leading the race

whats up with everyone sayins utis rls is good? its barely watchable..

/me waits for jurai to quote me and add some stupid comment cuz it makes him feel better about himself



omg this guy is so stupid, hey, i feel better about myself suddently, weird!

and, the uti release is quite watchable, unless your some idiot who falls into the, OMFG ITS NOT A SCREENER IT SUX category


Posted by Jurai on 12-29-2002 08:28 PM:

Post (!)

quote:
Originally posted by darkslide
Remember, the more you flame people, the gayer you are.


you must be the gayest person on earth then since you flamed me for flaming


Posted by ArchdemoN on 12-29-2002 08:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rattlesnake2002
ok a few things 1. i have just look the sample and its awesome!!! video is very good 10 , its right sound is not the best 7
But then i go to vcdquality , and i saw the jpg!!! who made it! its horrible! need someone remake the jpg because the guy who made it have a p2 200 STFU Will ya 2. Originally posted by JonoG5
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality. STFU i agree Jaurai

3. crap quality crap sound not worth the fuckin hassle fuck it 2/2/10




ohhhhh so i downloaded it and it was CTP?
weird...

stupid lama TCF/DVL rls'ed the DVDSCR in SVCD/DiVX


Posted by darkslide on 12-29-2002 08:38 PM:

Re: (!)

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai


you must be the gayest person on earth then since you flamed me for flaming



because 1 is more than 14... yeah, first you need read more. second you need to learn how to count...

2nd grade is a good place to start

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Posted by Lfew on 12-29-2002 08:46 PM:

jurai

Well, it looks to me like silentdeath pegged u to the n'th degree. u even said that it made u feel better like he said u would say u loser. I would sure like to get ur credit report or run one on u. I bet we would have to repo the coffee we gave u on the showroom floor that we gave u to drink while u waited on the answer - LOL. I will give u the status on my system. 3 twin cpu computers. One novell server and one win2k pro server (a twin cpu). Then the internet servers for both of my cables are twin cpus. I built them all. Both internet conection servers have twin view nvidia cards. After thourough comparison and reading on vcdhelp i chose a jvc XV-S502SL because it seemed to have an excellent picture and it plays everything i have dled over the years. It has progressive scan which compliments my 34" digital widescreen hdtv monitor (34pw9817). And i can guarantee that on my system, the picture sucks on the uti version. Its is exactly how silent death put it. Now i can guarantee u that if it looks bad on my system that makes crap look almost acceptable that if it looks like crap and the color cant be adjusted it is crap. I run into losers like u everyday, i run em out everyday too. Get a life, a job, and some good equipment and perhaps u too will be able to make some valid assesments. Respect ur elders they have been on the earth longer than u have and have seen and done much more.


Posted by desertboy on 12-29-2002 08:59 PM:

Sign my petition, get the word out let everyone know quote the URL over & over. Wish the better groups a happy new year.



http://www.petitiononline.com/TCFrulez/petition.html

I just realised I'm not supposed to post links but I hope admin will let this slide this time. When I've got a few thousand I'll email it through to groups concerned. Let's make this a huge number of participants

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Posted by strawhair on 12-29-2002 09:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JonoG5
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality.

no they didnt-do a search and you will see they released the telesync that people liked so much-although i am partially wrong-i actually was refering to tcf's screener on 4 svcds not dvd screener


Posted by strawhair on 12-29-2002 09:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tonikgin
strawhair - first off, i am complainign because this quality is NOT from a dvd source. also, this quality is nowhere near to be comsidered a svcd, the idiot that posted earlier giving it 9/9/* is a complete fool and obviousally some member of ftf. The svcd released last year was dvd source, thus eligible for svcd, plus it is a long movie, therefore needing more cd's. This is a telesync, some guy in a theatre with a tripod seup and a camera pointign to the screen... not dvd quality at all. stick to vcd ts's. </rant>

LOOK I SAID I KNOW THIS ISNT A DVD SOURCE-OK-IM NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT....I DO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TELESYNC ETC-APOLOGIES FOR BEING ARSEY-BUT AS SOMEBODY ELSE SAID-SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST BEING IGNORANT WITH REGARDS TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A SVCD AND NOT VCD LIKE OTHER RELEASES-HENCE-USING ANOTHER CD.-SORRY


Posted by fateswarm on 12-29-2002 09:35 PM:

Re: REQUEST TO MOD:

quote:
Originally posted by Enzomatrx
Like all TTT threads, this one has gone 95+ posts of just pointless.
Can a mod please clean this thread up and try to find the ones that discuss this release?
Although having gone through the thread i believe there are only about 10, if that.

How about from now on we make two threads for each release? *One related strictly to discussing the quality of the release
*And one solely for people to attack eachother based on the release of a bootleg movie

Some people take this a little too personally, but that's just my opinion.



You're with the bad guys on "the Pianist", right?


Posted by WizCrack42 on 12-29-2002 10:30 PM:

Re: 4 lamer 3 lamer 2 lamer 1

quote:
Originally posted by Jurai


No its a very bad representation, because this is the thread for the FTF release, not the tft release



Oh, excuuuse me... FTF TFT wtf ever. lol


Posted by melon on 12-29-2002 10:54 PM:

It's a waste, don't download this 'ok' quality and everthing and waste it on 4 CDs, wait for another release, meanwhile I'm sticking with my UTi rls.


Posted by MetalMickey on 12-30-2002 02:34 AM:

Why are people forced to wade through dozens of posts of flaming on this forum? Of what relevence is all this to the quality of this vcd?

I mean, the flaming isnt even clever or funny. Its just a collection of progressively more ignorant nonsense, post after post.

I think vcdquality needs to seriously expand the number of mods here, and just ban all these morons, so the rest of us can get on with appraising the quality of the vcds.


Posted by strawhair on 12-30-2002 05:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MetalMickey
Why are people forced to wade through dozens of posts of flaming on this forum? Of what relevence is all this to the quality of this vcd?

I mean, the flaming isnt even clever or funny. Its just a collection of progressively more ignorant nonsense, post after post.

I think vcdquality needs to seriously expand the number of mods here, and just ban all these morons, so the rest of us can get on with appraising the quality of the vcds.


UR sO RIGHT mickey-although i am guilty of flaming(very mildly)on this thread it is very rare for me to do so-i agree-the whole flame situation needs to calm down


Posted by stormer on 12-30-2002 06:56 PM:

how do you down load and play this stuff getting confused thanks for your help


Posted by stormer on 12-30-2002 07:00 PM:

how do you open this stuff


Posted by dRA_gONE on 12-30-2002 07:55 PM:

quote:
Centropy released last years DVD Screener, not TCF. I do remember a few people complaining about it, but it was well worth it for the quality.


No! It was TCF who released the DVDSCR of LotR : FotR.

Check the page on which you currently are posting..

(don't take this as a flame, just a correcture)


Posted by strawhair on 12-30-2002 08:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by stormer
how do you open this stuff

no request mate-forum rules-we cant tell u where to get films


Posted by c0pycat on 01-02-2003 11:38 AM:

wow i see a lot of complaints about the 4 cd thing why don't u just reencode with the kvcd template then u may just end up with a 2 cd version.. well whatever i just came to see what u guys thought about this version but all i see are complaints i'll just lay off this one and wait for the screener


Posted by CYBRFRK on 01-04-2003 11:38 PM:

Video is awesome for a cam/ts.
Wish audio was better, has anyone tried merging the audio from a better source?? Mine appeared to have some synch issues.

BTW, 3 or 4 CD's -- come on, who cares!


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