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Posted by motabus on 12-19-2002 10:20 PM:

Hmmm no pic yet and its internal, wondering if this one will be good....


Posted by Xiphi on 12-19-2002 10:20 PM:

ahaaa. there coming... and now its the long wait for a decent release to watch..

but this one is better then the first weird release....


Posted by thongsta on 12-19-2002 10:22 PM:

ermmmmmm.......real or fake?


Posted by rattlesnake2002 on 12-19-2002 10:23 PM:

OMG THE BOYS HAVE DONE IT W0W ownage


Posted by revolution-x on 12-19-2002 10:25 PM:

tcf rls a cam - a bit out of the ordinary


Posted by ewfbootlegga on 12-19-2002 11:16 PM:

Good quality. Sound is crisp video is clear. Beats out all of the TS releases so far. Even the TEG release falls short to this cam.


Posted by oqwarrior on 12-19-2002 11:22 PM:

Not a bad release, definitely better than NEWFXP's and slightly better than FTF's. Video is fairly clear and the sound is pretty nice as well.

6/6/10

BTW: Still waiting for that DVD Screener, TCF.


Posted by Wolter on 12-19-2002 11:23 PM:

@revolution x: Read the info before posting! It's a telesync, but they called it cam, cause of the poor quality!


Posted by Ren on 12-19-2002 11:34 PM:

quote:
ewfbootlegga:

Good quality. Sound is crisp video is clear. Beats out all of the TS releases so far. Even the TEG release falls short to this cam.


lmao the TEG was fake


Posted by aXs-SVCD on 12-19-2002 11:39 PM:

hey guys Just got the sample, To be honest both releases are good, Each one has its own reasons to be good!!!

Lets just leave it at that!!!

i personaly would download both

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Posted by VCDz on 12-19-2002 11:40 PM:

Nice rel.

MPG sample review:

Video: 6.5
Audio: 5.2 (Little hiss, CAM)
Movie: ?.?

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Hi! i´m new...aand i´ve a question:
What means a TEG-vcd
do i need a special codec to watch "teg-vcd´s"?


Posted by skankyhoe on 12-20-2002 12:05 AM:

USERNAME VIDEO AUDIO MOVIE
netpoi 9 9 9
Slurpee 10 10 10
dizzyD 10 10 6
ewfbootlegga 9 8 10
neo_tokyo 10 10 10
stuart2773 10 10 10
Spancmedia 9 9 10

christ people, rate the encode not the group behind it.

to their own admission in their NFO, its not worthy in their eyes to be labelled as a TS even though it more or less is, so they downgraded it to a CAM.

dont get me wrong im grateful for the quality of (dvd)screeners/dvdrips but theres no way that this is 10 material.

grow up you TCF fanboys.


Posted by target on 12-20-2002 12:17 AM:

way better

looks way better than the other releases.
tho the ftf looks also better than the freakin psycho first release.


Posted by Kalebson on 12-20-2002 12:20 AM:

ok by sample this is nice for a cam ...but which damn release is complete i hear this one is missing scenes as well


Posted by BLOODUK on 12-20-2002 12:22 AM:

wow nice quality sample on the cam i was impressed much better than the ftf version


Posted by oqwarrior on 12-20-2002 12:25 AM:

Most people are saying that the FTF release is better, which I highly doubt. This TCF release is lookin' pretty sexy to me.


Posted by Muzak on 12-20-2002 12:31 AM:

though i may get a TS, i believe i most probly will wait till the screener comes out. as was said above, this isnt extreme ops or country bears, this is a masterpeice of a movie and should be seen that way.

im probly going to spend 50 bucks on it in the theater till then, lol, but at least i wont be aggravated.


Posted by SPS on 12-20-2002 12:35 AM:

best one out, grab it

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Posted by Mystic Slippers on 12-20-2002 12:37 AM:

Yep, far nicer than the FTF one. Picture is WAAAY better. Audio is still a bit fuzzy, but yeah, best rls out there.

6/5/9


Posted by Alycat0123 on 12-20-2002 12:45 AM:

this is a lot betta than the ftf or newfxp release
but seriously, go see this one in theaters or wait for a dvd scr, a cam just wont do...
6/6/8


Posted by SvD on 12-20-2002 12:54 AM:

OOh sweet

Had to see this one...
Looks gorgeous
Check sample, all nice...
Better than FTF's TS sir!

Evenin Mystic


Posted by tpw2k on 12-20-2002 01:01 AM:

I think i'll wait for the DVD screener still just like the first one, someone should be able to get it within 2 weeks


Posted by oqwarrior on 12-20-2002 01:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by revolution-x
tcf rls a cam - a bit out of the ordinary

quote:
Originally posted in the NFO for this release
No, TCF isn't releasing CAMs. An internal is just that, within the group's affiliates and members.


Posted by your name here on 12-20-2002 01:10 AM:

nice rls of lotr a if you labled this ts i would of flamed but at least there honest i think ill wait for a dvdscr of this 7/6/10

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Posted by OzZyOz on 12-20-2002 01:20 AM:

Nice crispy pic and sound pretty good. 7/6.5/9 I'd defenitly give this a dl.


Posted by oqwarrior on 12-20-2002 01:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by your name here
i think ill wait for a dvdscr of this 7/6/10


We can only hope that a group will be able to get their hands on a DVD Screener of it...


Posted by Gitty Up on 12-20-2002 01:49 AM:

Pretty hard to judge before downloading ....all my sources have no sample for it, and i'm not gonna rate a jpg

everyone had this downloaded already like 5 minutes after the release?


Posted by misfits138 on 12-20-2002 02:30 AM:

looks ok but i'm going to see it on sunday on the big screen so i'll wait for a good screener before i download it.

nice job anyway tcf... if this was any other movie i'd download it and be more than happy with the quality.


Posted by Bud-man on 12-20-2002 02:56 AM:

Is this worth it to watch for the first time?, or wait?...I know best is the theater but with a few kids in da house tough to do.
Cant forget the beer tab


Posted by Apostrophe on 12-20-2002 02:57 AM:

over all the audio is perty good for a cam and the video is above par in cam standards jstu a few video blurps here and there over all crisp video and audio that i can live with i can understand every word and the slight hiss is not noticable when getting into the movie there are black boarders on all sides but thats no biggie over all im happy for now i was suposed to see it in theaters yesterday and i slept to late lol and missed all my friends that were going so at least i can still see it . still gonna see it in theaters too.

7/7/9 hanvet watched the whole thing but so far from cd1 that ive watched its tuff


Posted by oqwarrior on 12-20-2002 03:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bud-man
Is this worth it to watch for the first time?, or wait?...I know best is the theater but with a few kids in da house tough to do.
Cant forget the beer tab



Do NOT watch this CAM version or any other TTT release without first seeing it on the big screen. Watching a TS or CAM ruins the experience, but if you see it on the big screen first and then watch a TS or CAM, it is not so bad.


Posted by MrGameAndWatch on 12-20-2002 03:17 AM:

8/8/10

Nice quality for a cam. Gotta love TCF. Great movie too!


Posted by mist_trie on 12-20-2002 03:34 AM:

this is the first LOTR2 sample i've gotten to see...it looks pretty good.


Posted by Bud-man on 12-20-2002 03:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by oqwarrior


Do NOT watch this CAM version or any other TTT release without first seeing it on the big screen. Watching a TS or CAM ruins the experience, but if you see it on the big screen first and then watch a TS or CAM, it is not so bad.



Ok thanks, my 9 yr old kid said his friends saw it and he was asking me if i had it...i said u speak french...hehe


Posted by MattJack on 12-20-2002 03:45 AM:

you people didnt even read the release notes, this is a fucking internal, they would never release a CAM version to the public, yet you seem shocked over it.


shut the fuck up , and quit complaining about something you shouldn't even have unless you are in TCF


Posted by Swimj on 12-20-2002 03:46 AM:

CAN I JUST STATE THIS, IF YOU ARENT BLIND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE THAN THE OTHER TWO TS, TCF WAS JUST BULLSHITTING CUZ THE USED A DIFFERENT SOURCE.


Posted by oqwarrior on 12-20-2002 04:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Swimj
CAN I JUST STATE THIS, IF YOU ARENT BLIND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE THAN THE OTHER TWO TS, TCF WAS JUST BULLSHITTING CUZ THE USED A DIFFERENT SOURCE.
Hey, DIPSHIT, if you'll look in the NFO it says that they got this from a silver! Now who would have ever thought to look in the NFO? It clearly says, "source.......: cam (silver)"? WOW!!!!

What an asshole...


Posted by rattlesnake2002 on 12-20-2002 04:02 AM:

yea swimj ive seen some of ure posts and u ARE the most motherfuckin DUMB cunt of all time u diss shit u fuckin prick go fuck yaself


Posted by LMB on 12-20-2002 04:10 AM:

Thumbs up ack!

I have no doubt in my mind that Newline is going to keep a close eye on their LOTRTTT dvd screeners. They'll probably have serial numbers thrown in throughout it too. Ah well, we'll just have to wait and see. *crosses-fingers*


Posted by KevN2002 on 12-20-2002 04:13 AM:

But 3 cd's, ridiculous.


Posted by LMB on 12-20-2002 04:15 AM:

if you made it less than 3 discs, it wouldn't be a compatible vcd, it would just be low res mpgs. Remember, the movie is quite long, thus it needs to be spread across 3 discs. just wait for the dvdscr (here's hoping!) it'll be 4 discs


Posted by your name here on 12-20-2002 04:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by KevN2002
But 3 cd's, ridiculous.





wtf THE MOVIE IS 195 minutes long cdrs are 80 minutes figure the math out dumbass i actually though some groups would make 4 cd versions

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Posted by evdubs on 12-20-2002 04:30 AM:

its actually 179 minutes long.. or 2 hours and 59 minutes


Posted by khr0n on 12-20-2002 04:46 AM:

the best release so far. good job boys.
its a cam but its better than ftf bullshit ts

6/6/9


Posted by K-FurY on 12-20-2002 05:01 AM:

quote:

From NFO
source.......: cam (silver)

Next time read the nfo before u make stupid comments fool.


Posted by Wesb0b on 12-20-2002 05:10 AM:

KevN2002 you schould be banned from vcdq for saying something THAT STUPID!. Prob. the worst comment ive ever seen in my life. stateing that 3 cds is ridiculus for this release. you obviouly havent been around long. Just go figure out the math and look the the label of the cds. what does it say? 80min? NO WAY! i guess that means on 2 cds they can only fit 1hour 40min tops on 2cds while still being able to see the picture. Less you release a proper and some how figure a way to encode it to 2 cds dont ever say something that stupid again.

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Posted by HoldDaSalad on 12-20-2002 05:14 AM:

Talking Fools are cool

This site rocks, I've been coming here for a few months now, I love reading everyones bullshit on here, people fighting over the stupidest things ever (Uti is better than ftf). lol. there all about the same, i watch ftf, uti, everyone i can get ahold of, exept for that newfxp i don't have to much faith in there first release. No i havn't seen the sample of the ftf, or the tcf version yet, so i am gonna judge the jpeg, looks like tcf did a better job, sound well I don't hear anything with a jpeg so the sound sucks. lol. at least my excuse is better than most for making a false judge, because i'm not making an excuse. to judge the video i save the jpeg and blow up one of the samples on the pic. and look at it on my tv, so there i have a sample. looks pretty damn good to me. lol. But i will say this in all honestly if you watch the bootleg before seeing TTT in the theatres your stupid, and your kids will be just as stupid as you. your momma is gonna be stupid if she lets you watch the bootleg first. Hell heres an idea read the book before watching the movie, that way you have an idea of how good the movie will be. yeah there you go. lol. Well i just wasted a min. or 2 of your time. so i'm outta here. hope you guys like my post. later all.


Posted by exorcist on 12-20-2002 05:22 AM:

i saw this in theatre's twice, and to me the colors look wrong in it, just thought i'd mention that. (paticularily in gollum)


Posted by Two by Four on 12-20-2002 05:36 AM:

Pretty good for a cam, though... better than that FXP junk.


Posted by Salaga on 12-20-2002 05:37 AM:

I saw it in the theaters, and a TS (or Cam) just doesn't do this movie justice.

PLEASE PLEASE see it in the theater first, it is MUCH better if you do.

I'm personally gonna wait for a dvdscreener, even though I already saw it in the theater

On why on the subject of CD, most dvd rips will end up in 4 cds, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get 5 cds, because of the demanding quality of the movie.

And finally, since I'm not gonna bother with getting a sample, x/x/10


Posted by SiKzNuGz on 12-20-2002 05:49 AM:

Best rls out so far IMO. Picture is crisp cept a few minor probs and sound is good for a CAM, only a small hiss.

quote:
Originally posted by exorcist
i saw this in theatre's twice, and to me the colors look wrong in it, just thought i'd mention that. (paticularily in gollum)


lol go figure a CAM where the colors arent perfect when compaired to the theater pic

BTW it's not "theatre" it's theater


Posted by Swimj on 12-20-2002 07:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by oqwarrior
Hey, DIPSHIT, if you'll look in the NFO it says that they got this from a silver! Now who would have ever thought to look in the NFO? It clearly says, "source.......: cam (silver)"? WOW!!!!

What an asshole...




cool guy let me tell u, i know for a fact its not from a silver cuz i know the supplier so please dont talk when u dont know what ur talking about.


Posted by ErrorS on 12-20-2002 07:23 AM:

dunno why but sound is great for me in this one.. judging by sample but i'd give it an 8.. 7 for video if it wasnt all stretched, but a 6 cuz of that.. a bit blury but deffinately watchable

6/8/?(probably 10 )


Posted by barney on 12-20-2002 07:23 AM:

cant reallycomplain about this..not bad on sound and pic........will surfice till a tele or a screener comes along ............probably tomorror


Posted by Static on 12-20-2002 07:34 AM:

Talking

nice release. light years better than that shit from JewFXP and
clearer pic and sound than ftf.

6/6/6 cam of the beast

(im not that into lotr..but this is better than pt 1 so far)

merry xmas.


Posted by phoR20 on 12-20-2002 07:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by KevN2002
But 3 cd's, ridiculous.


wtf this phool musta never gotten LOTR 1 vcd or better yet the dvdrip "4" discs moron u aint putting more than 82 min (W/overburn ) on a disc u fucking howlie

"whats wrong?, u got sand in your vagina....wait 6 months go buy it on VHS u frigg/n douche bag[U] good rls guys, keep up the good work hope to see a DVDscr soon, ibut this will tide me over

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Posted by Vtec on 12-20-2002 07:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Swimj
CAN I JUST STATE THIS, IF YOU ARENT BLIND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE THAN THE OTHER TWO TS, TCF WAS JUST BULLSHITTING CUZ THE USED A DIFFERENT SOURCE.
Um dur, I think they only released this silver because it's LOTR2... Any other release would have gone to their limited/silver division ESOTERiC. Mad props on this release though, other groups would have labeled it TS and released it publicly instead of internal. Good Job, now bring us a better Punch Drunk Love!


Posted by RedBl_|LL on 12-20-2002 07:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by your name here

i actually though some groups would make 4 cd versions



yea, i bet IF there is a dvd scr itll be a 4cd svcd


Posted by rec0de on 12-20-2002 08:02 AM:

well anyways lets get u guys back on track, the rls is ok goes outs sync a bit on cd3 and the battle of helms deep is a lil dark but other than that its a passible rls for those of ya that cant hang on a lil longer, props to TCF for it, its supply n demand guys we know where ur coming from, go see this in the cinema tho Mr Jackson deserves props for this unlike the sellout Mr merchandise himself G lucas nuff said


Posted by ams30gts on 12-20-2002 08:32 AM:

cd3 has a lot of the pic cut off, and is missing footage


Posted by TBA on 12-20-2002 08:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ams30gts
cd3 has a lot of the pic cut off, and is missing footage




Can anyone confirm that this release is missing scenes?

According to my math (and assuming FTF uses 15meg part sizes), the TCF release is actually bigger in size (132 parts TCF -vs- 121 parts FTF). I'm sure other factors could cause that discrepency..but... if you have any insight as to whether or not this release is missing scenes....please post

BTW the movie was great.


Posted by im_scifi on 12-20-2002 09:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Vtec
. Good Job, now bring us a better Punch Drunk Love!


I dont post much in this area(probably a good thing) but there is a screener and I heard that movie was horrible ! ! Wait about a week it should be on dvd by then

They can release a dvd scr of this and I am still in the theater to see it before Sunday! ! Come one ! got to help make this movie the most money in one weekend ever ! There are way too many shitty movies in that category to not make this huge! Hope you all bought me a new dvd writer and apex for christmads


Posted by revolution-x on 12-20-2002 09:23 AM:

TO ...oqwarrior

the nfo /jpgs etc. werent up when i posted that smartass!


Posted by bundyman on 12-20-2002 09:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Swimj



cool guy let me tell u, i know for a fact its not from a silver cuz i know the supplier so please dont talk when u dont know what ur talking about.



STFU!! you're like 9 yrs old...you know shit!


Posted by mrnoregard on 12-20-2002 10:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wesb0b
KevN2002 you schould be banned from vcdq for saying something THAT STUPID!. Prob. the worst comment ive ever seen in my life. stateing that 3 cds is ridiculus for this release. you obviouly havent been around long. Just go figure out the math and look the the label of the cds. what does it say? 80min? NO WAY! i guess that means on 2 cds they can only fit 1hour 40min tops on 2cds while still being able to see the picture. Less you release a proper and some how figure a way to encode it to 2 cds dont ever say something that stupid again.


LMFAO

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Posted by scousethief on 12-20-2002 10:43 AM:

not gonna back him up but you can buy 99 min cds now almost anywhere theyre by infiniti the ones i get, and my pc or standalone dvd player has no problem reading them .
But i do prefer them on normal 80 min cd


Posted by G-X on 12-20-2002 11:01 AM:

Quality is ok , a bit sensless though . screener/dvd screener will come soon enough. still nice that people who are absolutely dying to see it now can grab it


Posted by PeTeR on 12-20-2002 12:29 PM:

Wink WoW nice sound!

this is better than the last one.....but i think i wait for the dvd screener...i think maybe 3 weeks and then its out..

anyway nice work with this one


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Posted by j0h2n on 12-20-2002 12:30 PM:

lmao, the minutes on the cd doesnt mather at all.

Do u think i can put a 80 min long vob file on 2 gB on a 80 min cd?

Stupid fuxx0rs.


Posted by TroLL417 on 12-20-2002 12:46 PM:

just watched the sample looks good for a cam but id differntly watch this in a theater first im goin to watch it in IMAX for my 2nd time anyone know how long before we see a dvd screener???


Posted by Bud-man on 12-20-2002 01:00 PM:

A 80 min cd is as stated, u can fit a 80 min vcd on that cd, encoded at standard vcd specs, 1150 bitrate and 224 audio, do it all the time, Made alot of 99 min cd's too 1 hour and about 39 mins......but for me is hard to find at any local store, compusa had them last yr, now gone...found a few websites with them but they were those cheapy silver/silver's that scratch real easy.
Movie has that blue colorless hue thats typical of a cam, watchable....enough to spoil us for now.
All u guys that remember last yrs first 2 or so releases will enjoy this, remember the copy with the missing first 5 mins?, started at the first big fight scene instead of the making of the ring.
A fool friend of mine bought 2 asian dvd's that were that rip..was horrible..lol
TCF rules as the dvdrip they made last january was prob the best ever to date....boy i wish i had a dvd burner for that one!


Posted by Jc100 on 12-20-2002 01:19 PM:

I saw the sample of this and i dont know to me its odd. It has good color, yet maybe a slight bluish tint.. but i saw movie in theater and a whole lot of movie itself was like that so its a hard call. Also from sample. pic just doesnt look right. Weird sizing in my opinion, and it does get a bit pixelated in some motion. My opinion from the sample, if you are impatient and are to damn cheap to shell out 5-8 bucks to go see a movie like this, i pity you and go ahead and d/l this. Nothing beats the movie experience. However, last time it was only a matter of weeks afterwards til we saw tcf release a screener. Im going to sit tight and hope that comes like last time. If not a screener from someone else is bound to come within a month or 2. This movie deserves that respect. Seeing it in any less quality deters as it is better than the first LOTR b many respects.


Posted by desertboy on 12-20-2002 01:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by j0h2n
lmao, the minutes on the cd doesnt mather at all.

Do u think i can put a 80 min long vob file on 2 gB on a 80 min cd?

Stupid fuxx0rs.




Sorry to be the one that rains on your parade but you obviously seem to be confused on 3 points. Let me enlighten you

1. Minutes on the cd do matter, CBR or constant bitrate of 1000kbits (Roughly) mpeg 1 stream, which this vcd is have a set size. Which corresponds to how much data a 1 speed cd can stream. This is no coincidence obviously being an early 90's standard most players were 1 speed. So a 99 minute cd would give 99 minutes of video (Not all writers or players can use these, I did hear you could get 120 minute cd's.) Which would mean you could indeed fit this onto 2 cd's if you desired. More hassle than it's worth. The scene frowns on making 80 minute cd's that you have to overburn so 99 minute cd's are a no no. Compatibility you see.

2. You can indeed fit a 2 gig file over 2 99 minute cd's.

80 minute cd's can hold 700 meg right, wrong they can hold 800 meg A vcd or a svcd for that matter burn in xa mode 2 (I think) which has less error correction thus more space to fit the mpeg bits.

Raw maths dictate if an 80 minute cd can hold 800 meg then (800/80) * 99 == 990 meg well with a bit of over burn you could get that extra 10 meg.

I think 1 second of video == 175K *60 secs ==10500 *179 minutes == 1879500 K or 1.87 gig.

3. Vob is a dvd fileformat which has the mpeg 2 inside (Much like .dat on vcd) This is not a dvd it is a vcd

I hope this clears everything up for you.




See vcdhelp.com for anymore help it should clear up any problem a newbie might have. I believe there's a guide on this site somewhere.

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Posted by flipp0r on 12-20-2002 02:56 PM:

i haven't seen this in theaters yet. and i dont want to ruin the movie so i only downloaded the sample.
anyway for a cam this is quiet decent

video- 6 - a little pixelated. good color!. i would gather the rest is like that..
anyone know about the 40min battle quality?

sound- 5 -

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Posted by Twista on 12-20-2002 02:59 PM:

Wink

This version is really better than ftf's one. Sound and picture is more clearer. Still this movie needs to be played in a cinema, it's just too good.


Posted by X-0ut on 12-20-2002 03:30 PM:

Allright I didnt read all the posts before this,but I have grabbed this release - watched around ten minutes and then stopped it,Im not going to spoil the film by watching this.
Respect due,prompt rls ,sound is better than I've heard from most cams,but unfortunately the picture quailty is awfull,at times u cant distinquish whats actually on the screen.
It also seems to be running at around 12 fps and the left side of the screen is cut off.
All in all if you shrink the window down to about an inch squared it will look fine - but who wants to do that?
I'd say video 4,sound 6.5,film unwatched =[
Still respect due,I think the guy was shitting himself cause he keeps hiding the cam now and then.


Posted by The CandyMan on 12-20-2002 03:36 PM:

Has anyone seen the UTi rls yet? Seen it up on irc, trying to dld cd1 of it now.

I'm pretty sure its not as good as TCF or FTF, but then again, it is a cam and in avi format rather than tar or rar, which means it could conceivable take up more than 3 cds.

Just wondering if anyone has it yet.

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Posted by pHo on 12-20-2002 05:30 PM:

UTi rls? aint no UTi rls been pre'd my friend, someone is messing wit ya.

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Posted by rubberhead2000 on 12-20-2002 05:36 PM:

@ TheCAndyman

I've seen whats reportedly an uti version
of this film,
however its only a divx encode of the CAM version.
Its in 2 parts, of 200mb ish each so
the total size is just over 400mb, which would make a very
poor dvdrip but is fine for a rls of this quality as the quality
isnt great

Theres several channels on IRC that make 2-300mb
avi's of TC's where the quality is already poor.
Its a godsend for us people with no standalone players
that only use our comps to play back movies
and dont want to d/l 2-3cd's of crap quality film
when a 200mb divx encode would suffice
I can sometimes get a film in 20mins (120k d/l max speed)


Posted by backoff on 12-20-2002 06:22 PM:

I am getting this now and it is decent. I think you should definitly see this movie in theatres first though. Much better and well worth the 7.50 for the ticket. It was a great movie. It is funny how people say "Oh I am getting that movie on kazaa in 34 hours i will see it." then it turns out to be some porn movie... KAZAA ISNT FOR WAREZ!!! All it is good for is PORN. If you are looking for warez dont go to P2P all it is is renamed shit that is uploading at .9684 kb/s. Just a little PSA for all you l33t h@x0rz who dont know this


Posted by reelnewbie on 12-20-2002 06:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by desertboy



Sorry to be the one that rains on your parade but you obviously seem to be confused on 3 points. Let me enlighten you
[...cut out....read above...]
I hope this clears everything up for you.


See vcdhelp.com for anymore help it should clear up any problem a newbie might have. I believe there's a guide on this site somewhere.



j0h2n : you got fucking owned. desertboy beat me to the punch, so props to him for putting everything so eloquently. just remember kids, if you don't know wtf you are talking about it's better to just keep your mouth shut.

and to the fuckhead who said "it's spelled 'theater, not theatre" earlier in this post (pg 1 or 2), you might learn a lot from a dictionary:

the·a·ter or the·a·tre ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-tr) n.

this board would be more civilized and constructive if ppl were required to take a damn test before posting, might at least rule out the fucking 10 year olds who have no idea what they're talking about.

back to the movie, quality is fine for a cam. dark colors and pixelation really kill the action sequences. if you wanna see it in the theatre/theater, go for it. stop trying to rally everyone else to do the same.

5/5/9


Posted by rick420 on 12-20-2002 07:43 PM:

Definetly the best release out there.....I havent watched the whole movie yet so not sure abotu the guy that claims its missing mins from the end....As for quality i saw 7/6/?? . Good job, coulda easily passed as a TS , the sound has some hiss, but is clear and not breaking or popping.


Posted by jim on 12-20-2002 09:27 PM:

hi
end seems 2 b missing from this version
should it end a t the mountains big red 1s
jim


Posted by BLOODUK on 12-20-2002 10:46 PM:

I believe this release to be missing some bits from the movie , ie it does a sudden jump to the next scene and you think to yourself how did he get injured or where did she come from. If u get my meaning.


Posted by oranj on 12-20-2002 10:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MattJack
you people didnt even read the release notes, this is a fucking internal, they would never release a CAM version to the public, yet you seem shocked over it.


shut the fuck up , and quit complaining about something you shouldn't even have unless you are in TCF




lol, I didnt realise TCF held the copyright? internal is just a way of
saying `substandard quality, dont judge us on this`.

6/7/9


Posted by Commy on 12-20-2002 10:53 PM:

Spoilers, if you haven't watched the move in its full:

The only bit I saw that was missing, was when they are going to Helm's Deep, and they fight with the orc and wolves. Aragorn fights one and ends up falling over the cliff into the stream below. They think he is dead, and leave to continute to Helm's Deep. This release then picks up from there.

The ending was the same as in the theatre, I didn't notice anything else missing. The audio was a bit out of sync, and the video was somewhat pixelated and at an angle(visible when the text is at the bottom). As someone above mentioned, it doesn't do the action scenes justice. Hope this is helpful to someone

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Posted by conlia-98 on 12-21-2002 12:32 AM:

Hmm ive had a flick thru this

Its alrite for a CAM

the picture is real nice on my xbox and dvdplayer

But sound is terrible on PC . its like a loud buzz


Overall

6/4/?

Better than FTF . And the "other" Release

Well worth the watch

CONLiA98


Posted by Doh on 12-21-2002 01:00 AM:

Hi,
download the Germanversion released by ACP, its the best TS outta there !


Posted by a1catraz on 12-21-2002 02:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Swimj



cool guy let me tell u, i know for a fact its not from a silver cuz i know the supplier so please dont talk when u dont know what ur talking about.



lmao..

release date.: december 19th 2002
theatre date.: december 18th 2002
dvd date.....: shrugs
imdb rating..: 9.5/10 (2811 votes)
imdb url.....: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0167261
subtitles....: n/a
genre........: fantasy/adventure
mpaa rating..: PG-13
runtime......: 179 minutes
source.......: cam (silver)
format.......: pal vcd (352x288, 25fps)
video: 1150kbit CBR
audio: 224kbits 44.1khz
disk size....: cd1 - 48x15mb
cd2 - 48x15mb
cd3 - 36x15mb

source.......: cam (silver)

WHAT DOES THAT FUCKING SAY? whose to know better then TCF themselves?? jeez.......................

you constantly make stupid remarks on the forum.. its ridiculous.

STOP TRYING TO SOUND ALL COOL.

ooh i know michael jordan.. dudes like my cousin.. we talk alot..

yeah.. okay man..


Posted by Gandalf on Crak on 12-21-2002 02:38 AM:

Hey...can anyone help me find a place to download it from...as you all know Kazaa is all Fake and im on IRC but other then i suck at findin shit on IRC, TTT is always queued to hell...plez someone help


Posted by strawhair on 12-21-2002 03:14 AM:

ok

not to shabby a copy...shame the movie is just over hyped boring pap.


Posted by K-FurY on 12-21-2002 03:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by a1catraz


lmao..

release date.: december 19th 2002
theatre date.: december 18th 2002
dvd date.....: shrugs
imdb rating..: 9.5/10 (2811 votes)
imdb url.....: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0167261
subtitles....: n/a
genre........: fantasy/adventure
mpaa rating..: PG-13
runtime......: 179 minutes
source.......: cam (silver)
format.......: pal vcd (352x288, 25fps)
video: 1150kbit CBR
audio: 224kbits 44.1khz
disk size....: cd1 - 48x15mb
cd2 - 48x15mb
cd3 - 36x15mb

source.......: cam (silver)

WHAT DOES THAT FUCKING SAY? whose to know better then TCF themselves?? jeez.......................

you constantly make stupid remarks on the forum.. its ridiculous.

STOP TRYING TO SOUND ALL COOL.

ooh i know michael jordan.. dudes like my cousin.. we talk alot..

yeah.. okay man..


so true, swimj is such a fucking faggot.


Posted by mist_trie on 12-21-2002 04:30 AM:

considering there is no dvd screener being sent to the oscars there will probley not be a DVD Screener as fast as all the other releases (as you all seem to think). this was how to screener was stolen last year....


Posted by rattlesnake2002 on 12-21-2002 04:52 AM:

yea swimj is a bit of a fuckin retard i give this movie 9/9/10 its wicked go watch it at conema guyz its WELL woth the money


Posted by TBA on 12-21-2002 05:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by mist_trie
considering there is no dvd screener being sent to the oscars there will probley not be a DVD Screener as fast as all the other releases (as you all seem to think). this was how to screener was stolen last year....


Can you elaborate on how you know there's no DVD screener being sent out for consideration?


Posted by Glow on 12-21-2002 07:44 AM:

hmm...nice cam. pic is good, but sound got a little hiss. i gonna rate it 7/5/10.


Posted by Timbo on 12-21-2002 07:59 AM:

Cool

This release is definately better than ftf's. I ran the audio through DartPro and got rid of the hissing, but still has that hollow "cam " sound to it. Other than that though, a great release.

I gove it a 8/5/9


Posted by Doughnuts on 12-21-2002 09:04 AM:

This release was pretty nice, but I gotta wait for DVD screen, or see in movies for this one, good work tcf


Posted by Bitch on 12-21-2002 11:08 AM:

So DVD screener gonna be floating around on the internet soon ?


Posted by The CandyMan on 12-21-2002 01:31 PM:

never say never!

That dvd screener has to be out there somewhere!

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Posted by djkoolaide on 12-21-2002 04:59 PM:

well even though i hated the first LOTR, i guess i'll d/l this one....


Posted by FatalException on 12-21-2002 05:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by The CandyMan
never say never!

That dvd screener has to be out there somewhere!



Yeah i Allready have it found on kazaa cmon candyman ill trade you for one of your lame reencodes lol


Posted by scousethief on 12-21-2002 06:29 PM:

my audio is in 192 format ?


Posted by Schranz on 12-21-2002 07:57 PM:

Unhappy

anyone else having audio/video sync problems with this release?


Posted by DrSVCD on 12-21-2002 08:22 PM:

Damn! Both TCF and FTF......why?

Both TCF and FTF releases have audio sync problems. Sucks.
Releases are not worth working on. I think ill leave them out of sync and in the waiste paper basket.
No worries We have about 20 more versions to go im sure.

WHO WILL WIN THE RACE FOR A QUALITY RELEASE?


Posted by ryda on 12-21-2002 09:45 PM:

so download the TCF rls instead of the FTF rls?


Posted by LEgacy18x on 12-22-2002 03:32 AM:

Just wondering....Am i the only person that didn't like this movie??


Posted by K-FurY on 12-22-2002 04:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ryda
so download the TCF rls instead of the FTF rls?

if you really want to yes, i personally would wait for a better rls tho, both are pretty bad.


Posted by Muzak on 12-22-2002 05:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by LEgacy18x
Just wondering....Am i the only person that didn't like this movie??
yup


Posted by lowepg on 12-22-2002 08:06 AM:

anyone else have a problem with disc 3 sound? I cant seem to get in in sync. Works fine on powerdvd, but gets out of sync on standalones...


Posted by nitemare on 12-22-2002 09:01 AM:

6/6/6

pic- pretty good. def. watcheable.
sound - ok. this is the weakest point. but still, def. watcheable
movie - ok. i can not agree with the majority. this movie is NOT WORTHY of greatness. this movie should be called "the neverending, neverending, neverending, story infinity". ill say this to the makers, they sure want to milk this forever. the movie only became interesting on cd3. but then it ends just like part 1? why the hell do i want to see all these battles in between? sure, the big trees and gnomes and those beasts those bad guys ride on are cool, but do we need 10 movies to watch until we see the end? whatever. i for one am glad i dont waste my money to see each film which starts and finishes like the previous one. and also, can we have some NAMES that are not 20 syllables long so i can remember which character they are talking about? to each be their own..i simply wont jump on the LOTR band wagon. just show me the damn ENDING!!!


Posted by Lamberth on 12-22-2002 04:24 PM:

Frodo dies. Now you don't have to see the thrid part.


Posted by BountyWarrior on 12-22-2002 07:04 PM:

Can anyone confirm that has seen the film in the cinema, that there is a scene missing in this version where Aragon is getting dragged along by a horse, and then all of sudden it jumps back to Helms Deep? Or was that just a bad burn on my part?

Good release by the way. 7/6/9


Posted by lycrake on 12-22-2002 07:21 PM:

Talking

Nice release, shame a bit is missed on disk 2 i think, where Aragon falls off a cliff, kinda a bad point at which they decide to change tape in their camera, but i can't really moan. The pic is good quality considering the speed they got this out, i'd give a 7ish, sound aint too bad, 6 maybe.

As has been said, the camera is at a bit of an angle, so subs are on the wonk, but it is in widescreen (as you can see by the zooming out after the first title credits) :-)

Worth a download, thats my opinion.


Posted by lo.pro on 12-23-2002 12:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Timbo
This release is definately better than ftf's. I ran the audio through DartPro and got rid of the hissing, but still has that hollow "cam " sound to it. Other than that though, a great release.

I gove it a 8/5/9



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Posted by nitemare on 12-23-2002 03:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lamberth
Frodo dies. Now you don't have to see the thrid part.


hehe.. thanks!


Posted by mag22 on 12-23-2002 04:12 AM:

Missing footage

While protecting the women and children heading to Helm's Deep, just how much is missing? The Warg's attack, the men ride off to fight them, Gimli gets buried under three different corpses.... Aragorn saves him... and then he's washing up on the shore. I wonder how much movie I missed there?


Posted by .SG. on 12-23-2002 10:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nitemare
6/6/6

pic- pretty good. def. watcheable.
sound - ok. this is the weakest point. but still, def. watcheable
movie - ok. i can not agree with the majority. this movie is NOT WORTHY of greatness. this movie should be called "the neverending, neverending, neverending, story infinity". ill say this to the makers, they sure want to milk this forever. the movie only became interesting on cd3. but then it ends just like part 1? why the hell do i want to see all these battles in between? sure, the big trees and gnomes and those beasts those bad guys ride on are cool, but do we need 10 movies to watch until we see the end? whatever. i for one am glad i dont waste my money to see each film which starts and finishes like the previous one. and also, can we have some NAMES that are not 20 syllables long so i can remember which character they are talking about? to each be their own..i simply wont jump on the LOTR band wagon. just show me the damn ENDING!!!



the makers dont want to milk this forever. this is how the book was written (well almost) so this is how the movie is being made... if you wanna know the ending just read the book. nuff said


Posted by oqwarrior on 12-23-2002 06:54 PM:

Re: Missing footage

quote:
Originally posted by mag22
While protecting the women and children heading to Helm's Deep, just how much is missing? The Warg's attack, the men ride off to fight them, Gimli gets buried under three different corpses.... Aragorn saves him... and then he's washing up on the shore. I wonder how much movie I missed there?

LOL yup you missed about 2 and a half or 3 minutes there.
See it in the theater if you haven't already, and then come home and download this release.


Posted by boman on 12-25-2002 05:45 AM:

i just have 1 question..........y wuz that not as good as i tought it would be


Posted by strawhair on 01-04-2003 01:39 AM:

poor film-waste of viewing


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