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just finished watching....


the nfo says all audio and everything is included. FALSE!

there's supposed to be 3 audio tracks but there's only 1 and it's NOT DD 5.1 it's just stereo 2.0 !

still a decent movie.

video: 10 (untouched, what more could you ask for?)
audio: 8 (DD 2.0? wtfever. why strip DD 5.1?)
movie: 7 (only a 7 because it's got some original characters/actors and any National Lampoon Vacation movie series' can appreciate with)

just my 2 cents...

haha this looks so awful, didn't know they'd done a sequel.. so glad its a TV sequel. even better! don't think i could be bothered to grab a dvdr tho.. divx on the other hand

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Originally posted by Air1
just finished watching....


the nfo says all audio and everything is included. FALSE!

there's supposed to be 3 audio tracks but there's only 1 and it's NOT DD 5.1 it's just stereo 2.0 !

still a decent movie.

video: 10 (untouched, what more could you ask for?)
audio: 8 (DD 2.0? wtfever. why strip DD 5.1?)
movie: 7 (only a 7 because it's got some original characters/actors and any National Lampoon Vacation movie series' can appreciate with)

just my 2 cents...

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Damn! It's got 2.0 audio? That just sucks .. i heard about this movie like a year ago, was wondering when it'd come out. The 7 you gave it surprises me .. i hear this movie is the shit. Literally, it's so terrible it's not even worth watching. Still deciding if i should grab this.

bcool2k: Sure, maybe it doesn't deserve a 10, but it's a direct copy. Nothing better will come out, nor will this movie ever be improved on dvd. So, like it or not, it deserves a 10. After seeing a few rars i will infact rate it a 10 as well. Only have 2 speakers at my desk tho, so can't confirm on it having 2.0 audio .. but i trust ya.

Oh .. that's weird. I loved Vegas Vacation, actually, i loved all the NL Vacation movies (except this one cuz i havent seen it yet)

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Originally posted by pHo
don't think i could be bothered to grab a dvdr tho.. divx on the other hand

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Originally posted by vip3r
Damn! It's got 2.0 audio? That just sucks .. i heard about this movie like a year ago, was wondering when it'd come out. The 7 you gave it surprises me .. i hear this movie is the shit. Literally, it's so terrible it's not even worth watching. Still deciding if i should grab this.

bcool2k: Sure, maybe it doesn't deserve a 10, but it's a direct copy. Nothing better will come out, nor will this movie ever be improved on dvd. So, like it or not, it deserves a 10. After seeing a few rars i will infact rate it a 10 as well. Only have 2 speakers at my desk tho, so can't confirm on it having 2.0 audio .. but i trust ya.

Oh .. that's weird. I loved Vegas Vacation, actually, i loved all the NL Vacation movies (except this one cuz i havent seen it yet)

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Originally posted by bcool2k
To each his own.

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bcool2k:

As Vip3r said and as I said and you quoted me, it's UNTOUCHED VIDEO so it automatically gets a 10. The video didn't look GREAT but it was untouched so it deserves a 10 and that's the bottom line.

Would you rate a black and white movie's uncoutched video less than a 10? When you rate you should rate on the release the group did (meaning the rip) and a 10 for video is genuine since it's untouched and it's the best they could do.

Now if we were rating the STUDIO'S RELEASE'S video quality, then yes, we would rate it lower than a 10.

---- Anyhow, like I said I rated it a 7 because it's hard to rate any National Lampoon movie lower that has any ties to the 'Vacation' series (at least for a big-time movie buff like me).

No bad feelings, just thoughts/opinions/etc. Cheers.

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Originally posted by Air1
bcool2k:

As Vip3r said and as I said and you quoted me, it's UNTOUCHED VIDEO so it automatically gets a 10. The video didn't look GREAT but it was untouched so it deserves a 10 and that's the bottom line.

Would you rate a black and white movie's uncoutched video less than a 10? When you rate you should rate on the release the group did (meaning the rip) and a 10 for video is genuine since it's untouched and it's the best they could do.

Now if we were rating the STUDIO'S RELEASE'S video quality, then yes, we would rate it lower than a 10.

---- Anyhow, like I said I rated it a 7 because it's hard to rate any National Lampoon movie lower that has any ties to the 'Vacation' series (at least for a big-time movie buff like me).

No bad feelings, just thoughts/opinions/etc. Cheers.

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Originally posted by bcool2k
That cool man NONE taken. The highest rating i've ever given is a 9.5 for Video Quality, perhaps its because i review alot of Retail DVDS. A one to one copy deserves the same treatment as the studio. Its the same source. So i would give it the same treatment. Right or Wrong, I care NOT. Nothing deserves a 10, ie perfection. Never seen it, Never will!!

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Im with Bcool on this, if untouched automatically means a 10, why bother posting it.
If a group wrongly or accidently puts Untouched on a Downsampled release, does that mean a 10.

I was under the impression this forum was to review the quality, not make the groups feel all warm and fuzzy, when they see all the 10's they get.
People seemed to have stopped using they're eyes, I dont give a fuck if its downsampled or not, I care what it looks like.
If someone give a release a 10 cause its untouched an i get it and it looks shit, i will be pissed off and dissapointed.

I know theres always gonna be two sides on this, but i just think its flawed, if the retail is poor, but still has to be downsampled, then it will effect the score, as more people will say the group fucked the rip.
The same thing with happen with the SVCD and Divx, those releases dont take the original DVD for comparison, so why should these.

I know its a rant, but i just think giving something a 10 when it looks shit is stupid and misleading.

8/8/4 Why did i watch this guff

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Originally posted by Redemption1980
Im with Bcool on this, if untouched automatically means a 10, why bother posting it.
If a group wrongly or accidently puts Untouched on a Downsampled release, does that mean a 10.

I was under the impression this forum was to review the quality, not make the groups feel all warm and fuzzy, when they see all the 10's they get.
People seemed to have stopped using they're eyes, I dont give a fuck if its downsampled or not, I care what it looks like.
If someone give a release a 10 cause its untouched an i get it and it looks shit, i will be pissed off and dissapointed.

I know theres always gonna be two sides on this, but i just think its flawed, if the retail is poor, but still has to be downsampled, then it will effect the score, as more people will say the group fucked the rip.
The same thing with happen with the SVCD and Divx, those releases dont take the original DVD for comparison, so why should these.

I know its a rant, but i just think giving something a 10 when it looks shit is stupid and misleading.

8/8/4 Why did i watch this guff

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Originally posted by bcool2k
Rock on Brotha!! Thank You i dont' give 10's otherwise why bother posting at all, oh so true. However, no matter how many times i state i'll NEVER give a 10 ppl have to object. Well i say object away, I've never seen a perfect release. Even George Lucas with all his tech Nuts couldn't perfect Star Wars. I usually say Video Untouched, but no fault of the group because come on ppl. Many of you do NOT buy the retails. I actually do. I have well over 1000. I just download dvdr for fun

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I agree this forum is about reviewing the actual DVD-R release, so why does it matter what the source is, a Downsampled DVD could look better than a Untouched one, so why does the Untouched get a higher score.

I hope you can see my logic here, IMO the quality should be compared against other DVD-R's, irrespective of original DVD source.

Porco i agree on your Side Rant, Ive never like VHS pic, but years ago when i first say DVD i thought it doesn't get much better than that, but now im constantly finding flaws in retail DVD's.
BlueRay should look awesome and i hoping Columbia Tristar take advantage of the format as they have some of the best looking and sounding DVD's out there, well at least the PAL releases are, haven't saw an NTSC one, but i dont imagine they'll differ much.